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  1. soup23
    Another thing that I like about Bret is his ability to do callback finishes. Like the victory roll sequence and him getting caught versus Owen at WM 10 and his pins on Piper at WM8 and Austin at SS96. The finishes were really clever in that they were not obscure and really rewarded long term viewers. They also were not hokey either and just inserted to have a nostalgia moment.
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    The Rockers

    soup23 replied to soup23's topic in The Microscope

    It is indeed the 88 MSG match so I will have that in the back of my mind.
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    The Rockers

    soup23 replied to soup23's topic in The Microscope

    I can certainly attest this week that the Rockers match is a great watch after you finished studying for the CPA. Only downside is the matches are usually entergetic and it winds me up for another hour before I can go to sleep. Also noticed where I have one more Conquistador match left at LA so that will be interesting when the Rockers are further implemented into the WWF. Next match on the docket is vs. Demolition. I will preface by saying I know I can tolerate Demo more than some and probably would find myself in the middle of the Will/Vic spectrum in regards to them.
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    Another great interview with JJ. I especially like the insights into Vince as far as office business and strucutre lies. I think that is particularly interesting and integral to get as much information as we can since we will never have a complete picutre from Vince himself. JJ really seems like someone that has come to grips on his wrestling career and is proud of what he acomplished. Kudos to him.
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    Ref looks like a young Mike choaida. Production values and commentary is so bad. Atlas does a hilariously awful elbow drop early in the clip as well. Tony would have been a good player in a stable where he could hide his in ring weaknesses and really excel in carrying the weight on the promo side.
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    The Rocky King reveal was something.... Flair vs. steiner is a good match with a finish I hated. Flair worked hard though and had a nasty knot on his back develop. Steiner was definitely wet behind the ears but did ok in this position.
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    The Rockers

    soup23 replied to soup23's topic in The Microscope

    Rockers vs Conquistadors (MSG, 9/29/1988) Trongard, Graham, and Lord Al Hayes on commentary. We get another unique opening with the Conquistadors playing cat and mouse staying away from Marty and then trapping him. They put him in a torture rack and alternate. Shawn has enough of that and sends the conquistadors flying and gets Marty passed to him in a cool spot. Amazing at how varied each opening between these three has been. The Conquistadors have a different demeanor in this match and consult with each other. This leads to the Rocker standby of cranking the arm but that is short lived as the Conquistadors trap him again and start hammering away. Shawn again comes in for the assist and monkey flips Marty right into a clothesline. That was a rinse and repeat sequence but ended in another exciting conclusion so it is fine by me. Offense is again varying on the arm. Conquistadors get advantage with a nasty right hand to Shawn. They throw him in and he takes his great bump into the corner. The Conquistadors then pounce on him with some nice looking boots and offense. Great dropkick by the Conquistador. This was followed by huge back body drop. Pace is really quick with their work. It is not very complicated or really focused on a body part but is vicious, smart, and fast. Shawn is also selling well. Hope spot on sunset flip is short lived as he gets booted from the Conquistador on the outside. They also do a pretty good job in showing Marty showing some restraint on the apron and not being totally detrimental to his partner. Half of the time, the Conquistador will have a discussion with the official allowing the interference to occur. Conquistadors do their switcheroo spot on the outside. Shawn fights his away out of the corner to the cheers of the crowd, however he is unable to make the tag. Nerve hold is applied to Shawn which is my least favorite sequence of the match so far. An abdominal stretch would have been more effective. It was short lived as Shawn again gets a hope spot and comes firing off the ropes but gets back elbowed. They really milked this. Conquistador misses a senton and Shawn tags in marty to a big pop. Typical house of fire with a Conquistador taking a nasty bump on backdrop. Pier six occurs and one of the Conquistador clears out of the ring after he collides with Shawn. Shawn bounces back though and hits a big splash off martys shoulders for the victory in just under 15 minutes. This was a really good match that bordered on great at times. I really loved the first half of the match and was amazed at how different it felt from their previous encounters. The second half was a mix of good and bad as I felt the nerve hold made no sense and I would have liked to see Shawn sell the beating a little. Overall, the second best match of the trilogy and worth going out of your way to see.
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    Was hoping for some magic tricks, but we just see Sting running after the Scorpion like a dope.
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    I'm shocked this didn't get over.
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    Thought this was good match on the Chicago Pro feed. Showed how Flair and Arn could work together well as a tag team and I always enjoy Pillman selling. Doom brawl at end was pretty hot to.
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    The Rockers

    soup23 replied to soup23's topic in The Microscope

    Rockers vs Danny Davis/Mike Sharpe (Prime Time Wrestling, 9/20/1988) Marty and Davis start out. Marty gets a neat headscissors takeover which draws Sharpe in. Shawn and Marty give both members a headscissors then although Shawn nearly completely botches his. Shawn works over the arm of Davis. Davis really sucks with weak strikes, soft bumping, and goofy selling. We get the trademark arm work including the splash on the arm. Sharpe backs Marty in the corner and starts clobbering him. Marty fires back and again go to work on the arm of Sharpe. They do a couple of decent sequences were Sharpe gains the advantage but Marty uses his speed and smarts to regain the advantage. Shawn gets caught in the corner and worked over. Davis blocks a monkey flip. Big elbow by Sharpe and good bump by Shawn. Double clothesline puts both men down and Shawn is able to get the tag to Marty. All four men are in and we get a neat finish with Marty sending Sharpe into the ropes and Shawn taking him out with a splash for the three count. This was not a very good match but that was not what I was expecting. I still was able to get some interesting takeaways. So far, Marty has been the clear leader and more polished worker of the team. This match also gave the right amount of offense to Sharpe/Davis in that it didn’t completely bury them since they are name guys but the Rockers dominated most of the match.
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    The Destroyer seems like an omission. I know Dylan is not high on him as some others and I haven't watched a ton of him but I would at least place him in the conversation and can see him comparable to guys like Windham. I can also already hear Parv formulating an argument for Dibiase. I can also see arguments made for Tito and Backlund. My ten: Flair, Hansen, Lawler, Mysterio, Terry Funk, Vader, Ricky Morton, Bobby Eaton, Daniel Bryan, Savage. Just missing was: Tully, Arn, and Eddie Guerrero I recused myself from voting for Bock and Rose because I have not seen enough footage.
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    The Rockers

    soup23 replied to soup23's topic in The Microscope

    Rockers vs Fabulous Rougeau Brothers (MSG, 7/25/1988) This is the Rockers MSG debut. Lord Alfred, Billy Graham, and Mooney on commentary for this one. Rougeaus are being sporty and offer a handshake in the early going. Jacques and Shawn start with some basic headlock oriented wrestling. Jacques hits a great dropkick with Michaels bouncing off the apron. Jacques again shakes Shawn’s hand. Shawn dropkick misses but Jacques sells anyway. Lord Al calls him out on it on commentary. Tough sequence execution wise for Shawn. Marty and Raymond then get tagged in. Raymond clamps on a full nelson that gets flipped around and then the action picks up a bit and Raymond nails Marty with a back elbow. He goes for it again but Marty reverses into his own back elbow. Shawn gets caught coming in and the Rougeaus start working over the leg and ankle. Jacques starts up a USA chant on the apron and gets booed. Awesome. Shawn quickly tags out on first counter and Marty starts working over the arm of Jacques. Work on the arm is not bad but not great either and pace is really slow. Shawn speeds it up a bit with a crossbody. Marty gets tagged in and caught by the Rougeaus. They start targeting his back and using more heel type aggression and maneuvers. Raymond is jawing on the apron with Shawn while Jacques locks on an abdominal stretch. I always love Raymond’s karate kick to the gut. Hope spot for Marty but it gets stunted with a dropkick to the back with Marty up in the Hart Attack position. Jacques misses a flying bodyblock though and Shawn gets the tag. Shawn again misses a dropkick and he is off tonight. Lord Al is not giving him any breaks either. Big fistdrop from the top but broken up by Jacques. Shawn goes to the top again but gets crotched by Jacques and Raymond covers for the win just under 15 minutes. Afterwards the Bulldogs come out and they have a shoving match with the Rougeaus. Eh. This was not a bad match but not good at all either. I liked the Rougeaus being sportsman and progressively using more heel techniques but the payoff at the end, while pretty cheap felt kind of hollow. The control segments of body work were also uninspiring and the pace was a lot slower than both previous Rockers matches.
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    Pretty damn great singles wrestler in 1990-1991. He has my favorite singles Flair match besides Wrestlewar and was really good vs. Steiner. I also liked the Taylor Halloween Havoc 91 match.
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    I dont have an exact number. I just list a finite amount of guys I would consider true GOAT contenders and then that is the number. I just listed off a quick rundown and had 8 guys listed. That is not to say anyone beyond that 8 couldn't be someone else's GOAT. For instance, Funk wouldn't be one of the 8 and I feel like I have watched enough of him to accurately judge. However, he would be a definite top 15 contender for me and could be as high as 6-7 so I don't begrudge someone like Dylan having him as the GOAT and understand the argument.
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    The more I think about, its pretty alarming how terrible all 3 interview segments were. Funk's Grill was fine but didn't really feel like a feature segment that much. King's Court could get really corny quickly, and Flair for the Gold did make Flair seem dated.
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    Kind of too light for me. I know there is not much wiggle room after running over still...
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    Blindfold battle royal seemed stupid and not a great way to progress the lawler vs. Gilbert feud. Ending also looked stupid as I have no idea what the Ref was doing and why he couldn't see Gilbert lift his hood for 30 seconds. Car gimmick was clever especially playing into the promotion with Airport Toyota. Lawler doing these announcements sound like the best church announcements you have ever heard delivered.
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    Not a bad short vignette.
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    The tone used here was great by the WWF with Brother Love's reaction and Piper not taking this shit on commentary. Watching a segment like this shows why Slaughter was in the position he was in early in 1991.
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    Great callback to the great TV on WCW in Jan/Feb of this year. Wonderfully fun concept that destroys beat the clock and other shit WWE throws out now. Flair on commentary is gold like it usually is with him and Eaton puts a stake in his claim as one of the best U.S. workers of 1990.
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    Hansen might want to invest in a spit cup.
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    Everything I could want out of a mascara match to me. Maybe the best match opening ever with the guitar shot. Good despearation, vicious headbutts, rabid crowd, and Caras having the shame of being unmasked. MOTYC.
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    This was good and logical. Konnan is a really interesting character around this time and the brawling was well done.
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    Initially I thought both Dandy and Satanico were wasted being in with these guys but they make the most of it having a great end to their team and kick starting their feud. Satanico was awesome in this.
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