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  1. PhilTLL
    One episode of newly upped WCW I can vouch for match-wise is 7/12/86, a GAB special with Tully/Wahoo and LOD/MX. All the matches are from Dorton Arena in Raleigh and it looks terrific, at least at twilight when you can see the neat design and giant windows. As for classic angle episodes, I'd have to look at recaps. Also I have to disagree a bit with goc, WCW was certainly full of squashes but was also good for a nice long main event fairly often. Especially in the first couple of years. Flair/Garvin, etc. Edit: Rewatching the 7/12/86 episode, there's also a pretty enjoyable Garvin/Black Bart match.
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    Flair, 9/7/85: "...what's causin' all this? You're talkin' intensified beef products, 100% all man, Ric Flair."
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    In the early Horsemen days, how each of them inspired a different emotion in Schiavone and Crockett: Tully got disgust, Arn and Ole got something more like bullied respect, and Flair got "always a pleasure" honor and even admiration. Flair's defense of poor David and temporary face turn against Nikita was a lot of fun.
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    "You know how long I've waited for this?" I dunno Ron, about 9 months or so, since Halloween Havoc? That aside, this is obviously a brilliant couple of segments and a pretty good match too. The sample size is small, but this is easily one of Vader's top 3-4 WCW singles matches to this point. One thing I've noticed about JCP/WCW crowds in recent viewing is that if they're really tense about a big match's outcome, they'll store up their heat (as opposed to the constant hollering you might find in a hot 6-man) until the absolutely massive finishing pop. For example this, RNR/Andersons 11/86, Dusty/Tully 7/85, etc. The full match is on the 8/16 episode of Main Event, the History of the WHC DVD, and I'm sure a few other places. For maximum effect watch the Rude/Nikita/Sting/Jake segment, the drawing, and the full match. It's short enough that I can't believe they clipped it on SN, especially in a full length episode that had multiple long matches (including the Zbyszko arm break!). Watts literally says "We don't have enough time for the full match." I didn't know popping a rating on Main Event was worth it at this point in time.
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    Arn Anderson

    PhilTLL replied to Grimmas's topic in Nominees

    Well, sure. Has Arn ever been the bad part of a match? Maybe not.
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    Kevin Von Erich

    PhilTLL replied to Grimmas's topic in Nominees

    The person I'd put at the top of that list would be Bull Nakano Haku and Barbarian are Tongan, too. I know, I know, Samoan means Pacific Islander in wrestling, like Dominican means black Hispanic in baseball.
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    The only fun things I've seen him do there were beat the hell out of Marcus Alexander Bagwell and randomly talk shit on Dusty so Dustin could beat the hell out of him. Wikipedia says, unsourced, that he left when they asked him to lose to Sting, which is insane. Now I want to poke through some WONs.
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    I revisited this just the other night too. The unconventional structure was one of my favorite parts. The heat was going to be insane with the RnRs going over in that fashion, so they could afford to draw it out like that. The finish is a bit awkward, as Gibson and Arn very obviously stop what they're doing and Gibson shoves Hebner out of the way to hit the dropkick, but a minor quibble on a great match. ****1/4, maybe 1/2. If you're poking around for it, do note there is an edited ~12:00 version that appears on WWE's "Bloodbath" DVD, I think from the Best of Starrcade 83-87 VHS. The full version is ~20:00 and is on the Starrcade 86 full VHS.
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    Heaven forbid they post, say, the matches from his HOF feature month on COD years ago. I'm sure that would be incredibly difficult.
  10. PhilTLL
    Oh FFS. I don't think I ever heard that and it's almost it for me retroactively. Especially dismal coming from a guy who spent years working in Louisiana and Mississippi.
  11. PhilTLL
    Are you thinking of the Tower of Doom e.g. the Great American Bash 88 PPV? Every WarGames until the 2000 mess used the double ring and single-level cage.
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    I enjoyed this quite a lot. Heel Wahoo really hits the spot for me and he's great here, dicking at a pretty high level. Really brutal and intense action, a bit deliberate but not sluggish, great heated payoff feel. The headbutt/tights pull into the cage transition is beautiful and stiff. This is a great example of just how much Magnum is able to accomplish with little offense. Easily ***1/2 for me, maybe higher if I rewatch. For anyone seeking it out, I think it's actually on the 3/30 episode, at least it is in the set I have.
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    Well, that's the trick, isn't it? It's not an inherently bad thing, as you make clear. I just felt like the alternating storylines weren't very well handled, especially the intersection of Luger and Dangerously, which basically becomes a red herring if I recall correctly (I've been watching probably a bit too fast for my own good). Luger's increasingly rare appearances make for not much of a feud at all between him and Sting.
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    For the same reason it's enjoyable when Professor Harold Hill gets one over on the mayor (though perhaps Meltzer is more like Marian). If you don't get a kick out of a guy feeding disinformation to three different people to improve his bargaining position and work the only journalist in wrestling along the way, well, I don't know what to say. That's old school. I meant to say something like "Well-played," not "Fuck Dave." Though I reserve the right to enjoy when Dave gets worked in any manner just for chaotic chuckles. I certainly don't resent it.
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    That is delicious.
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    I will go ahead and get the Trips Reign of Terror 2002-04 out of the way. The 15:00 promos, the dominance booking, the terrible angles that ranged from boring to "embarrassed to be watching", the thousand sledgehammer shots, the neverending bullshit epic HBK series...
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    In an earlier version of this, they try to sell Joe and Dean Malenko as honest to god Hungarians who "have been scouting the American scene" despite the fact that when Joe speaks, he clearly sounds like Joe from Tampa, or Peoria, or anywhere but Hungary. Delicious bullshit. Dean, for the record, is silent but looks exactly the same as he did 5 years later, probably as he did 5 years before, and still does now.
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    Sub-5:00 subcategory: Kaz Hayashi vs Raven (Worldwide 3/20/99), Brian Pillman vs Norman The Lunatic (Clash VIII, 9/89).
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    YOU'RE THE KING OF DOG SHITE!
  20. PhilTLL
    I'll always have a soft spot for this match, and I realize it was A Different Era, but heaven forbid this could have been a title match. Sting had zero televised defenses between his title win and his loss. The house show defenses were a solid lineup--Rude, Vader, Austin--but it makes for some weird TV viewing.
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    Murdoch/Windham 7/11/87, Duggan/Sawyer 11/11/85, and Murdoch/Reed 9/28/85 from the Mid-South set are all in this range for me. The DiBiase/Flair saga is a near-perfect wrestling TV episode, but not necessarily a 4.75 to 5 match.
  22. PhilTLL
    The lack of Control Centers and such has been really glaring, especially compared to the wallpaper coverage for SuperBrawl. Bischoff's magazine segments are dedicated to the angles themselves ad nauseum, with only occasional PPV card rundowns. The relative lack of five on five interaction is disappointing. Since the Sting/Rude blowoffs were house show matches and Sting moved on to his first Vader feud, then got injured by him, his status as team leader vs. the DA comes across murky at best.
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    This angle was shown approximately 9,000 times in the weeks after it first aired, and I was pretty surprised not to see it listed here. But it is indeed spectacular. The fire angle was also shown a bunch of times, but it gets less effective the more I see it. Steamboat isn't a stalker, so he does total creep ball stalker things?
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    Eh, NBA halftime acts aren't exactly cutting-edge entertainment anyway. Even today they consist largely of "trick skills" acts like unicycling, plate spinning, balance and contortion, BMX, basketball tricks, etc. Not that this isn't crap! But it's definitely NBA-worthy crap. As for the cost, I'm guessing it was very, very small compared to the infamous mini-movies.
  25. PhilTLL
    Actually the week before, 11/23. I guess the "couple more weeks" I was thinking of was Havoc.
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