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It seems like he's having a public meltdown but it could be work. On a sidenote, I just read the ROH press release about running Terminal 5 for their Final Battle PPV. I was wondering if the Hammerstein Ballroom was booked already that night or was the building rental fee too expensive for ROH to run there. I know somebody that has gone to Terminal 5 for concerts and says that it's smaller than the Hammerstein.

I am guessing most people don't know this... If you're getting or keeping the Network only for NXT, don't. You can get the same content - yes, including the PPVs - on Hulu Plus. The only difference is, you won't get them "live." The shows appear 24 hours later, and I believe PPVs end up on Hulu 1-2 days later. Thank you for bringing that up to my attention. I kind of like seeing NXT and the PPVs live though and with NXT, I can watch them a lot earlier in the day on Thursdays so I can watch football at night

I found this clip of him from Tough Enough 2 with John Morrison's tryout.

I always thought Kevin Dunn was the heavy set guy with red hair that wore a hat on the early seasons of Tough Enough. Now I have to find out who that guy was.

Late 2005 to 2007 was my favorite time period of ROH. I thought it was masterful how Danielson's title reign was built for him along with creating feuds and new challengers along the way. From building up KENTA, making Nigel a star, the CZW feud with Hero terrorizing the company with Claudio turning on ROH to having Homicide be the savior for ROH, Danielson dropping the belt to Homicide and then that transitioned into Morishima's reign. I thought the company was just on fire and without that period, they not have gone to PPV or HDnet.

I just renewed my subscription. I waited until after Wrestlemania XXX to see the verdict was in terms of the live streaming events. I wasn't impressed with the service and was not going to renew until I bought a Roku. And since a lot of new guys are debuting on NXT, I had to renew.

I gotcha but it's hard to blame Brock for that run cause WWE hotshoted him so quickly to the top. I know it kind of turned me off personally because I was unfamiliar with him and it probably turned off a lot of casual fans also along with Austin and Rock leaving the company. So along with his run in 02-03, you have the following: His run in NJPW from 05-06 His UFC run from 06-2011 (with gaps of his illness) And his run on top WWE 2012 until now as a part timer. That is 3 runs as a wrestler and 4 runs all together at the top of the card.

Are you counting this current run as a bad draw? Plus Dave letting people interpret his MMA career be part of his wrestling career doesn't help. Todd Martin wrote a series of articles on Sherdog for a potential MMA HOF this year and had Brock in that HOF (which I agree with). Brock is a near slam dunk pick for MMA despite his fighting record cause of his drawing record and becoming UFC Champ. But as a wrestler, it's questionable.

i just came up with this in the meltzer thread, but i think brock in a wrestling HOF would be pretty much like bo jackson getting into the pro football HOF Or getting into Cooperstown. Brock should not be in the HOF cause of his wrestling career not being long enough to me. Also, I know this has been brought up before but his New Japan run was a disappointment. That was the time when Simon Inoki was President and Yukes had a stake in New Japan. I'm pretty sure the Dome shows Brock headlined were papered and him not showing up against Tanahashi for the IWGP title only to show up at the Inoki show to drop the belt to Angle really could have messed up New Japan financially for a long time.

I watched the two matches of him and Jonathan was great. He started in the business around that time in the 50s so it kind of sucks that there is not a lot him from his prime. There's stuff from when he was in WWWF from the 70s but he was in his 40s by that time.

I recently watched this match to see if it held up for me back when I saw in 06 and it held up well. I know the criticism of the match is that there are too many overkill spots but the background going into that match is interesting. Noah clearly had a youth movement going in 06 and Marufuji was the guy at the head of it at the moment but Morishima was the guy that was being groomed long term. Jun Akiyama was in the middle of a disappointing GHC Title reign and putting the belt seemed to be the right thing to do. Plus, they wanted to get Marufuji over into America to defend the title as he did with Nigel McGuiness. So, you have KENTA as Marufuji's 1st opponent in Japan cause KENTA beat Marufuji earlier in the year in a GHC Junior title defense. Superstar Sleeze talks about the show drawing poorly but that's because the undercard of this show was pretty bad for a standard Budokan Hall show and it was billed as a one match show - Marufuji vs KENTA. Noah had some great shows leading up to this but Misawa dropped the ball on this show by not giving them support. Two perceived juniors fighting for the Heavyweight crown in Budokan Hall sounds absurd but dammit they had to do overkill to get everybody's attention that show. KENTA's midsection work on Marufuji was great including the double knees to the chest and the Falcon Arrow from the apron to the floor. The only stuff that is bad are suplex spots which look ridiculous and the the botched Go 2 Sleep when Marufuji comes off the top. I just chalk it up as them being inexperienced and trying to do too much but if you're try to do that, you have to go for it in the spot they were in. They both knew it was their one shot cause Misawa put the belt on himself after that but the match was good overall.

Welp, that might turn me off with Davis but I will have to watch the footage to find out. Other than that, I can't wait to dive into these batch of matches. I've never seen Thesz, Gagne or Rogers in their own primes so this gives me an opportunity to check them out. The one guy I really want to see is Don Leo Jonathan. He was one of my father's favorite wrestlers and I need to see his work out of curiosity.

I really liked the show and I can't wait to listen to the rest of them. I've watched a lot of these matches because I tried to participate in Ditch's All Japan project years ago (and my viewing fell apart cause of life circumstances but that's neither here nor there). This can be a refresher for me in terms of going back and watching for fun. I won't participate in the GWE project cause I've missed out and just haven't watched a lot of stuff to begin with (Memphis, Lucha, WOS, Wrestling from 2009 to 2013, 80s Joshi, Portland and Battlarts) but I will keep an eye on this series of podcasts though.

I'm 26 and my views on wrestling have changed a bit as well but mostly because of my breaks from wrestling. Add me into the category of people who saw things different after the Benoit murders and the Misawa death. Benoit was favorite wrestler and it didn't help that the murders occurred close to my birthday. I won't say that I stopped watching altogether but I stopped watching WWE and focused on Japan because it still fed my hunger for state of the art wrestling and wrestling that is considered a "go go" style. Once the Misawa death happened, I stopped watching altogether because I felt guilty being a fan of style that could result in people dying. And that is a big factor because I cringe now at head dropping spots, headbutts and kicks to the face. I've said it before that I'm not a fan of Ishii because of the headbutt spots and him being dropped on his head. I watched the G-1 this year and his physical state concerned me. Honma is another guy cause I wanted to yell at him and say "Don't do that diving headbutt from the top to floor!" However, I still tend to like a more athletic style of wrestling but it needs to be paced out more and everybody should not kick out of someone's finisher (which is starting to be my gripe with everything I see from modern wrestling). With me, I try to find a happy medium for what is good cause this board has pointed to people that I would never watch such as Titus O Neil and Mark Henry. I always dismissed those guys cause they were big and the image of the WWE being a big man promotion but the thing is that there is not enough legit big men in the business for me to look at and say "That's how a big man should work". I watched a bunch of Titus O Neil matches from Superstars and I like the guy now. I wouldn't have said it back then. The barnstorming trio of Thatcher, Busick and Gulak are another example of guys I wouldn't watch before 2009 and now I've got my eye on them. On the other side, I watch guys like Kyle O Reilly and Cedric Alexander cause they naturally catch my eye and I see what they can become down the road and not what they currently are. If a guy is spectacular at first glance, I will always notice them. But, now I look for guys who actually sell and pace out stuff in order to a good match. An example of this was a match I watched with Chris Hero vs Kyle O Reilly for the PWG Title. I was never a big fan of Hero but I was interested in O Reilly. I watched the match and it made me like Hero a lot more and made me lose faith O Reilly in his development. It seemed like Hero was trying to get control of the match and slow it down but O Reilly was trying to get his stuff in. And don't blame indy guys for that mentality cause if the promoter wants you to tear it up, you got to do it. I think that's why I see not talking about the indies because it's a Wild West show and guys have to go over the top in order to please the crowd. A lot of the modern stuff I see kinda gets lost with me because I see them doing too much. I want to see guys like ACH, Rich Swann and AR Fox do better but their matches get lost cause they are doing too much. When I came back to wrestling and saw Davey Richards vs Michael Elgin for the first time, my initial reaction was that they did too much. Younger me would not have said that but that's the beauty of getting older. Granted, I'm pretty sure that I'm never gonna be in the fan club of Lawler, Dundee and Rose but I understand what they do and it doesn't bother me.

I was expecting a series that followed the story in chronological order and highlighted certain aspects like Bret, DX, the NWO, Austin, etc. in the order as it happened. Plus they paid Keith David to narrate it like Ken Burns does with his docs. The opportunity was there for them to create something really good to get people to have interest in the Network when they debuted this series. For them to promote that they have award winning documentaries on the Network insults my intelligence because they don't have anything like that. They could've with this but didn't. They did a good job with the Daniel Bryan doc and the Warrior doc. Why did they drop the ball with this?

I just watched the Bret Hart version of the MNW and it will be the last time I watch an episode of MNW. That first episode had so much promise when they debuted it a couple months ago. It's really awful cause they seem like they are wasting Keith David's narration for 15 episodes of the same old stuff. This series should have been Ken Burns style multi part documentary that told the story in chronological order. This series should've been the documentary version of Death of WCW but WWE's production dropped the ball again. I am really disappointed cause I had high hopes of it from the 1st episode.

Pretty sure it doesn't work that way. Just because they edit something doesn't mean it's permanent, they still keep the original masters.Yea, WWE has the original masters so that is an easy fix. But the music issue might be the biggest one cause I doubt the older promotions recorded their shows with seperate audio channels.But the older promotions didn't do many commercial releases, so the tapes in the WWE vault still have "Freebird" for the 'Birds, "Tom Sawyer" for Kerry, etc. That's what I was referring to. The older promotions probably recorded their show masters live to tape. So the production staff in WWE can't easily dub over music without adding fake crowd noise and stuff like that.

Pretty sure it doesn't work that way. Just because they edit something doesn't mean it's permanent, they still keep the original masters. Yea, WWE has the original masters so that is an easy fix. But the music issue might be the biggest one cause I doubt the older promotions recorded their shows with seperate audio channels.

I don't think the digitizing of footage is the problem with the WWE. It's fairly easy to digitize footage. The problem is that they edit the shows so much in terms of dubbing over copyrighted music, editing out words in promos or promos all together, sweeting the crowd, etc. Thats why not a lot of stuff is not on the Network and on Home Video. That type of stuff needs to be approved by several people before the public see it.

I really enjoyed the show. It had a Clash of the Champions feel to it in terms of each match was presented genuinely as important and introduced new guys into the fold. I was a little disappointed that they changed KENTA's name but I knew the copyright hammer would eventually come in. The first half of the 4 way was a WWE style 4 way and the second half turned into a really good match that showed each guys strengths in the ring. Also it was first time that I didn't have problems with the live stream buffering or anything like that.