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If Tessa had not vanished from the radar, she would have been a given for me. I miss watching her work for sure.

Yep. Blood & guts indeed.

Yeah, I really completely fail to see why they even get TV time. To have a so-so match with Hangman Page at this point, with sloppy spots, poor bumping, boring offense and timing, yuck... I know the guy is green, but I don't see any potential whatsoever. He's a better rapper than a worker, and yet that doesn't say anything. Omega ain't losing the title. He's gonna collect more belts and that is gonna be awesome. As far as the dorama goes, well, I don't care as long as the matches are awesome, and they mostly are. Omega & Callis are just awesome at everything right now. Matt Jackson is better than Shawn Micheals at acting (yes, that is a backhanded compliment). The Bucks & Omega stuff is compelling on a very long term scale, they're not gonna do basic heel/face stuff, they're acting more like actual human beings with contradictory actions and feelings, and I do enjoy that (it helps they are just the best workers too). Bear Country I want more, but damn, Luchasaurus is not looking good at all, they really need to give Jungle Boy momentum now. A fun thing about this week is it shows how aware they are of their criticism. The whole Death Triangle/Best Friend (which should be terrific) segment almost was a direct response to Meltz criticism of them not doing follow-ups. Also, I got a kick ouf of Jake Roberts actually pointing the running gag of the Sting segments being him not saying anything and being interrupted. Archer also basically blasted the lack of focus in the way he's being booked... I like the QT Marshall group. I understand the whole -1 thing, but I really don't want to see much more of this. Not because it makes me uneasy, but because I don't want to see a kid around my pro-wrestling stuff, thank you. I mean, maybe in ten years he'll debut as an actual pro-wrestler and he'll be awesome because of this experience, so who knows, but I don't really like it now. So true. He's having a thing for Tay Conti already. Too soon young padawan. I mean, I expected a nothing show and I got an angle with Mike Tyson. Gonna tank in the ratings still but hey, they are not lazy. Love the Bunny back in the ring. I just love that girl. Greatest annoying laugh ever.

Nick & Matt Jackson. Well, I don't exactly "look forward" to it because they get so much unwarranted hate around this place, but there you go. The real question for me will be to determine who is the better one of the two. And once I get to it, the French Catch guys and the women that were either forgotten last time or just weren't around for long enough.

Have you seen his TNA stuff ? I can't really recommend anything specific, but he showed up in late 2011 (along with Aries) and from the few weeks of TV I've seen, he was really really good as a grumpy bitter veteran. Best version of Kid Kash I've seen.

No I don't. I mean, I'm not gonna argue endlessly like I did in the past to "defend" my picks and tastes, I don't feel I have to anymore. If someone gets something, anything, out of whatever I put the focus on, good for that person. I'm glad I was able to share the love. I also don't think I'm able to express myself as well I'd want to sometimes in term of explaining why this or that. And I probably don't have the energy anymore either honestly, although I still get bursts of posting like a maniac (which is never a very good sign in term of what it says about my mental state at that time, really ) ! Like I said, I don't intend on doing any negative posting in the context of the next GWE. And I won't feel obligated to do anything really. It has to be fun, and that's about it.

The same. I'm too old for the arguing. I'm not too old yet for the sharing of what I love.

Which is why they really aren't trying. On paper, this is a one match show (the main event). Max Caster ? JD Drake ? Is this a Thunder episode of Dynamite ? Oh anyway, this is Mania week, the spotlight is not gonna be on them anyway. Better off putting on a great show for their first week unopposed instead.

I know. Did not make more sense to me then ! (EDIT : I KNOW what you mean, I just don't agree with it)

It's genius used for getting yourself over and draw crowds and be a big star.

Agreed. And he was also really good in the first UWF, and the way he used to mix the burgeoning shoot-style stuff with straight pro-wrestling spot really foreshadows the bizarre mix of later years in UWF-I or Battlearts. Tiger Mask had issues for sure (yeah, he was sloppy, yes, he did not like to sell a lot although that's how you made yourself a star like Inoki), but there's something about him that goes beyond the gimmick. As far as Brody goes, there's something about what you project. And Brodie projected a dangerous aura. And yes, the fact he did not like to sell much and no-sold after taking bumps absolutely contributed to that aura. All of which made him a star. Maybe that's the "genius" of Brody. (I don't love his stuff, but I always had a soft spot for him)

The constant patronizing is unbearable. This poll is not about giving good taste lessons to people. And some wonder why the GWE last time kinda killed the board...

It's human nature. I understand it on an intellectual level, as I understand nostalgia (although I hate it), but it doesn't make any sense. It's true of pretty much everything. It's just more comfortable, and the "objective" truth of it is just rationalization and confirmation bias. At some point, you either choose to learn from the new generation of adults coming after you, or you just choose to begin every sentence with "Back in my days" and end it with a *sigh*, with an air of disdain for the world of today.

One thing that may play is that there will be more than 25 years of post WCW/Crockett US pro-wrestling then, and almost 35 years of post-territory US pro-wrestling. That's huge. The idea that you always have to come back to what happened 30 to 40 years ago will be such a ridiculous boomer claim (pardon the use, as a boomer myself) that there should be a clean swipe from a generation that won't feel obligated to vote for a now very distant "golden age", from which all candidates will seem as distant to them as the stuff from the 60's were to us ten years ago. (not to mention other elements like a more feminist take on things inducing the rediscovery of classic women wrestling in Japan and current, as in from the past 15 years, US stuff)

No one is a better anything than Hansen, so it's not fair.

His brawling that he wasn't very good at made him one of the biggest draw of his eras and a huge star. I mean, if the argument works for Hogan...

Parts of me would be kinda interested to check out some of this stuff again, because there was a sense of total randomness , which is someone I can always enjoy. Back then I really disliked all these crappy pseudo-MMA guys like Ogawa (who suuuuuucked the life out of Hash, thanks for nothing) and Murakami (who was only good for punching people in the face), as a UWF/RING fan. This was really an odd period with the Zero-1 stuff happening at the same time, Choshu having his little crappy promotion for a while, the Wrestle-1 (the first one, not the Mutoh promotion) stuff with Bob Sapp. Yeah, kinda crazy when you think back. I'm sure there are some hidden fun stuff in there.

Bret. DiBiase. Any other questions ?

I'm not sure Flair is gonna be in my top 20. I have no idea *at all* who my N°1 will end up being. I have no idea where the next five years will lead me, if only because I don't know what those five years will bring in term of great wrestling (and they will). I have no idea how my approach will evolve as I'm watching tons of different stuff. Hell, yesterday I noted a name that I guarantee you *no one* will have in their list, and who is not about great match at all. Maybe the name will end up in my list, maybe not. "It's a marathon, not a sprint"....

Or simpler than that : they don't care. They actively supported a white supremacist, racist pig chauvinist to the White House. Why should they care about what Hogan said ? The crowd should eviscerate Hogan live. Of course they won't because "Ohhh but my childhood memories yaddi yaddi yadda I was a Hulkamaniac blabla fucking blah". It's embarrassing.

Hopefully. However, stuff like this is not good sign : "they haven't been schooled", 'they haven't spend hours having their preconception challenged"... For fuck's sake. The patronizing tone is unbearable already. Gatekeeping and using authority arguments. Talking down to *potential* voters already. Just wonderful.

Not surprised in the least. This kind of attitude is what made last poll a chore for so many people. The next one has not been jumpstarted and already we have to endure the fucking bullshit about "hipsterism" (whatever the fuck that means ie nothing) and "video game generated modern workers" ? I hope we get 20 something years old women voters from TikTok and they have Sasha Banks as n°1 and the 2026 GWE is basically a gigantic "Ok boomer" middle finger to the previous one.

Damn, loving the new avatar.

Thirded. The "goal" for me will be to have the most satisfactory personal list I can at that point. I feel like the 2006 list was really up to where I was then. The 2016 list I was quite dissatisfied with (not to mention the overall results), as it was a mix of stuff from memory, canonical names, names thrown it despite the fact I had not watched nor enjoyed nearly enough to justify their high placement... (and really it wasn't a good time at all for me IRL, I remember I left the board basically a few months before and submitted a list at the last moment) I mean, Jumbo was terrific in the 70's already. But at the exact same time, Jaguar was blowing *everyone* out of the water. She was like ten years ahead of her time in term of, well, everything (and no, I don't say that from memory, I'm slowly diving into the old stuff, some of which I've seen before, tons I haven't).

Yeah that Jewett tape with the Tenryu matches was all over, a best seller. One of the first tapes I got in the late 90's. And yes, I remember the same way about the pimping being focused on the 70 & 90's (Tenryu being clearly considered as 90's work here).