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[1997-01-18-WWF-Shotgun Saturday Night] Steve Austin vs Goldust
El-P replied to Loss's topic in January 1997
Yet another feud that would have been interesting, 7 years after The Natural vs Stunning Steve. At this point Goldust basically works like Dustin. It's too bad he was de-emphasized in 97 after the face turn.- 11 replies
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[1997-01-18-WWF-Shotgun Saturday Night] Steve Austin and Terry Funk
El-P replied to Loss's topic in January 1997
Insane promo from Funk who probably thinks he's in ECW still. He really doesn't give a fuck. Austin is great here, and we get a tease of what could have been an amazing feud. Yeah, it's too bad Terry didn't sign with the WWF, if only for that match alone.- 13 replies
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Dixie and Russo deserve each other.
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I've watched every Hennig there is to watch from the AWA and the vaunted Buddy Rose program from Portland (which was good, even very good). Bret still wins. Easily.
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Interesting how slowly and organically the whole Hart Foundation coming together was happening at that time. Without being planned or even thought out at this point, really. WWF totally lucked out with so many things at this point, but it was so much more compelling to watch than the dull over-scripted product they've been delivering since the 00's. Rocky is still basically Rocky Johnson Jr. at this point. Yeah, in two years he'll be the biggest star in the business, that's amazing when you think of it.
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[1997-01-13-WWF-Raw] Sid promo / Interview: Shawn Michaels
El-P replied to Loss's topic in January 1997
Indeed. Shawn's promo is just blah, and he does look like he's actively reading off cue cards. Meanwhile, Sid does a very good promo in which he quotes Nietzsche. That has to be a first in a wrestling promo. The empty Alamo Dome echoing Sid's voice and the way he turned the camera around made for pretty cool visual and sound effects.- 13 replies
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[1997-01-11-WWF-Shotgun Saturday Night] A Very Special Announcement
El-P replied to Loss's topic in January 1997
Including really stupid ones. Russo must have been somewhere behind this kind of crap.- 10 replies
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Fuck yes. Plus Raven doing 1996 ECW is coming. The two I was most looking forward to in forever.
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Boum, powerbomb, concussion. From what I remember, easily the lesser worker of the pushed NJ junior from the late 90's (not including Kendo Kashin of course). No idea what I would think about his work today though.
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The Raven Dog & Pony show made me eat nearfalls more than 10 years after the fact when I went through ECW TV & house shows. Not to mention some really good WCW stuff against Goldberg, DDP, Benoit and the terrific Saturn match which made a dead crowd at the beginning go crazy at the end. Love the character, and the guy can be funny as hell. One of my all-time favourite wrestler.
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Yep. The NAO were really fun for the first months, before they got associated with DX and got stuck with a unique a sing-along catchphrase. That stuff gets old quick and tends to get the audience to only pop for the entrance. Lenny Lane & Lodi. That's who they remind me of. That's not a compliment. Damn. I knew that reminded me of something, but I havent watched any joshi puroresu in more than ten years. Oz ! Of course !
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Banks vs Lynch easily takes the MOTN. Sasha Banks I love. Damn, that entrance by Enzo & Cass ! Are these guys the new NAO ? It's cute, but I'm pretty sure it actually gets annoying pretty quickly since they have to say the exact same thing everytime. Like the NOA. And they have that goofy sing-along spot. Like the W.O.R.M. Ok, I'm not sure I could handle this for very long. But since it was the first time, it was funny in a total WTF way. The entrance of Tyler Breeze on the other hand. Brillant, and so totally current. I'm already bored with Balor's overlong entrance to be honest. I dunno, he reminds me of the Boogyman. The match was really fun and perfect for an opener. Enjoyed Owens vs Zayn a lot, although the ending was kinda weak. Regal's intervention was nice and Samoa Joe debuting was a bit surreal, in that he's actually called Samoa Joe, and was treated as a star despite being really a TNA guy (ok, a ROH guy too, but still). Yeah, really good show overall. (just put Regal in the announcing both)
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WWE announcing (no, I don't mean in general, although it works too ) : "For the title !", "For the championship !", "For the victory !" when there's a pinfall attempt = this is not the end of the match. This is so stupid and annoying.
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One of the legit funniest WTF segment in prwrestling history. Sunny was not only ridiculously hot, but she was also wasted (no, not in that way) doing pretty much nothing. And as demonstrated by this segment, she should have been given a meaningful role. In contrast, Sable's acting earlier in the night during the Mero/Rocky scuffle was awful, not to mention her grating voice and delivery. Yet, she was gonna be pushed harder than the two better looking, more talented Sunny and Marlena. I never understood the rationale behind the use of Sunny at that time, getting her off managerial duties when she had been the hottest one (pun intended) in the previous months.
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[1997-01-11-WWF-Shotgun Saturday Night] The Sisters of Love Arrested
El-P replied to Loss's topic in January 1997
The "pre-Attitude" version of Tuesay Night Titans / Saturday Night Main Event goofyness. Kinda funny. The Head Bangers were a cool decent little team with their own kind of charisma. -
Oh yeah. But damn, that ending was so random and poorly executed, complete with Steve Austin showing up when the cams are on Sid backstage. The match itself is pretty good, but you can feel they work it for exactly what it is, a TV match that's used for angles backdrop. (Mankind and Owen had fun TV match on the same show, much better than this) Sid's "heel" push felt totally forced, indeed, as Sid had been really popular until then, and will remain a babyface afterward anyway. Poor booking this week.
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Indeed. But the rest of the promo was such a mess. How many grammatical errors there ? And Shawn. Well, DX couldn't come soon enough, really, when you think about it. At least, the heel turn.
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Shotgun Saturday Nights, the first episodes, in nightclubs, bars and giant subway stations. And pretty much every pro-wrestling shows in funky locations, including one of my all time favourites, Nitros in Club La Vella. And FMW outdoor shows with aerial subways passing by in the background. And Wrestle Mania in a Vegas casino parking turned into a "roman coliseum". You get the drift.
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I nominate Raven. Come one. If I don't, no one will. I mean, litteraly. So yeah. Scott Levy in all incarnations.
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[1997-01-04-WWF-Shotgun Saturday Night] Bob Backlund and Goldust
El-P replied to Loss's topic in January 1997
Yes. Probably because Goldust just had turned babyface after answering an emphatic NO to the homophobic question by Lawler (so since he's no "queer", he can be a babyface now… well…). Marlena looked amazingly hot at this point, and yeah, her exposing herself (only filmed from the back, although a bunch of pictures were obviously taken judging by the flashes (pun intended)) is an "iconic" moment. Plus it follows an as-good-as-it-can-be-in-that-small-ring match between Goldust and the Sultan, during which you can hear chants like "Fatu !", "Let's go Dustin !" and then "Fatu sucks !". Gotta love Backlund almost having a seizure when Marlena exposes herself (she did had her tits covered though) and Todd Pettengill announcing Marlena as the winner of the match, to the dismay of Sunny, acting all bitchy and jealous. Yeah, if stuff like these had been only part of that kind of show, once a month, it would have been quite fun instead of having sleaze and nonsense all the time during the Attitude Era.- 10 replies
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[1997-01-04-WWF-Shotgun Saturday Night] Brother Love & The Sisters of Love
El-P replied to Loss's topic in January 1997
ECW chants while the Godwinns are in the ring. WWF was going through a total identity crisis period, with some ultra-cartoony gimmicks from the mid90's still being around in this sort of very "late 90's" ECW setting and atmosphere. Brother Love totally didn't fit either. -
[1997-01-04-WWF-Shotgun Saturday Night] Bob Backlund and The Sisters of Love
El-P replied to Loss's topic in January 1997
I loved Shotgun Saturday Night. Awesome idea, looks totally different from anything else. Backlund being batshit insane is always fun. Actually he should have been used more. The Flying Nuns, although, was an atrocious gimmick. Reeks of the crap early TNA would put on. Who the hell came up with it ? The Head Bangers already had their identity in SMW, there was no need to change them. One thing interesting in the credits, you can see Taker looking more or less like The American Badass.- 11 replies
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Yes. Nitro is a lot of fun to watch on so many levels. Up until Starrcade 97, WCW is must watch TV to me, with an amazing peak in the summer of 96 during the high point of the nWo angle.
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The use of the term "character work", that has seemingly spread like crazy lately. The idea that legit headbutts = good work.