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So, we already know AJ is jobbing hard tonight.

Indeed. It's ridiculous. No woman can even talk to the guy you're dating ? Really ? Not good for CM Punk either. If I had to mess with every guy who litteraly hit on my girlfriend, including right in front of me, I would get into fights every other week. The keyword is trust.

Well, that's what I meant. Sarcastically. Wasn't very good though.

He had a strong relationship with FMW and enjoyed japanese style better. And he wouldn't look that big in the land of giants that was WWF. ECW was the perfect fit since it was a small guys promotion.

Agreed. Leilani had a lot of interesting stories to tell. Yep. And Luna's stories are even worse. Moolah seemed to be a complete piece of shit.

Kevin Sullivan in Florida doing a promo surrounded by Luna & Boob Roop. He talks about Maya Singh having "penetrated places that no man has ever penetrated." Then says that Luna has "spread herself all over the country.", at which point Luna just turns away from the camera, hanging her head down, immediately followed by Roop who just stops doing the bizarre gestures he was doing to brutally turn his back and leave the frame. Sullivan himself almost cracks up and turns his back too as he was obviously giggling ! Pretty damn funny.

Every time I see a new post in this thread, I think TNA is actually dead for good.

Valentine's Day is the Royal Rumble. Moves shitloads of merch too. The big hit of the early year. Although I remember one time this girl drew number one, she had to go the whole hour and she was not so happy about that… I drew 27. I was gutted as most everyone had already come and gone.

Yeah, I remember that, but still. Hell, Kane is more relevant than most these guys when talking about SMW. No Tony Anthony, no Ricky Morton, no Dr. Tom, no cred. Is Al Snow still working for TNA ?

Well, they did another Shoot Interview in the meantime in which they were extremely apologetic for the stuff they said before and basically kissed HHH's ass. So yeah, there's always a way to get back.

Zach Gowen is working twice at the PPV ?

The players : Lance Storm, Chris Jericho, D-Lo Brown, Jerry Lawler, Road Dogg ? I mean, seriously ?

It's always been strictly a national draw anyway. Christmas still draws worldwide no matter how boring the product is.

Last night I actually dreamt about Daniel Bryan. And he had a fake beard.

Oh, gawd, HHH is gonna book himself vs Orton for the unified title, then go to WM as the face champ. (anyway, watched the last RAW segment since I'm probably gonna watch a bit of the PPV. Man, Orton is just as putrid as a promo and "actor" as he is a worker. Cena totally saved the segment.)

Well, Russo's booking, even without the shoot angle bullshit, was abysmal anyway and he would have killed WCW just as well. And TNA is irrevelant, always has been and always will be. So to me it was inconsequential in the big picture. It just produced a whole lot of inconsequential stupid angles and promos. And really when you think about it, the real "shoot-angle"-that-wasn't-an-angle that shook the business forever was the Montreal screwjob. That's the one Russo and others always tried to reproduce. CM Punk's "shoot" promo has its roots in the will to create another Montreal. Re-acting Pillman's out of nowhere, out of context "bookerman" comment is more akin to Eric Bischoff telling Sid to "use a squeegee" on Nitro to me.

This. If anything it's one of the most overrated "moment" in wrestling history. It was a cute "WTF" moment for smart marks only, led to absolutely nothing in term of matches, angles or payoff, and didn't draw WCW any money. What it did though, was mesmerize Vince Russo who even mentionned it in one of his "Vic Venom" columns in the Raw Magazine sometime in 97. And from there comes his fascination for shoot-angles. So yeah, in some twisted way it was important as it "inspired" the worst booker ever to do a hundred shoot-angles in WCW which all accomplished nothing in the end just like the original one did.

1994 ECW had plenty of fun already, especially as the year was closing down. Being a Sabu and/or Sandman fan helps.

Ah… mass consumption… Such a great way of life.

I hate generic music and commentary/ring announcer overdubs. Just hate it. I can deal with generic music on old puro com tapes as it was part of the charm to get cheesy themes overdubbed for cheesy WAR fat guys, but for WWF/WCW/ECW and such, it's simply a no-no for me.

At 10$ a month, even *I* could be interested if I could have access to it.

Yep. Those two are these best. Just über classic popular movies in France for the last 50 years. i've watche dit countless times since I'm like 6 or 7 years old. A few other of his classics are La Folies des Grandeurs with Yves Montand this time (Bourvil was supposed to get the role but he died just before) and Les Aventures de Rabbi Jacob, both from Oury. The adaptation from the play Oscar is fun just to watch De Funes go batshit insane. He made a lot of mediocre/shitty movies though, so it hurts the perception of his talent. But recently guys like Denis Podalydes, who's a critic darling and who does a lot of auteur's movies, saying De Funes was great and an influence on him shed a new light on his work (from the critics I mean, he's an immensely popular actor including decades after his death). Yes. Which is very unfair, as comedy is the most difficult stuff to do. Real good comedy I mean. And comedian are more respected when they do "serious", dramatic stuff. We call it the "Tchao Pantin" effect in France. Coluche was a superstar comedian in the 80's but was only doing not so good funny movies. And then he does a super dramatic role in the very dark "Tchao Pantin", gets a Cesar (our Academy Award) and all of a sudden he's finally viewed as a great actor. To this day a comedian doing a dramatic role is called "making a Tchao Pantin" here, to the point of being a cliché for comedians trying to get respectability.

Depends where. Jerry Lewis always had good reviews in France, including from serious critics. At the same time, Louis de Funes was not highly regarded at all, and now 30 years after his death suddenly the serious critics are doing essays on the guy. Go figure.

The Gowinns said working wih Doug Furnas & Phil Lafon was like "pulling teeth". Yep.

Ditto. I guess this has something to do with him being Bob Jr.'s son.