Loss Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Talk about it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted December 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 Last few minutes of okay action sees Doc kick out of a backdrop driver from Jumbo once, but fall prey to the second one. Jumbo and Kabuki win the tag titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditch Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 Strange bit of booking here. Why knock the MVC off after a couple months for the sake of pushing a newly-minted team with Kabuki? Heck, MVC even got to beat the Baba/Jumbo superteam in May. Give 'em more than 4 months with the belts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 Put over Kabuki as Jumbo's new partner. The titles bounced around *all* the time back in that period: 1988: unification + 5 additional changes from 6/10 - 12/16 1989: 5 title changes 1990: 1 change already 1991: 4 title changes It didn't calm down until 1992, where there were only 2. In 1990 there probably would have been another one before the Tag League and then another one with the Tag League winner for a total of 4. Best example: 07/11/89 Hansen & Tenryu over Jumbo & Yatsu 07/22/89 Jumbo & Yatsu over Hansen & Tenryu Hansen & Tenryu were the new super team, and they got 11 days with the belt. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditch Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 Come to think of it, the TC was all over the place for the first couple years as well. 6 title changes and two decision matches between April '89 and January '91. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 Yep. Some of that changes of plans / shit happening. Whatever the plans were for the belt at the start of 1990 went out the window when Tenryu left. Gordy's OD caused more issues. We finally got to stability when Jumbo won it in 1/91. We would have gotten another round of stability in 1993 when Jumbo took it off Misawa, and since Jumbo went out it was Misawa who kept it for the long run. It might be seen as a shift in how Baba thought about the belts, but it was more of a return to how the belts were treated prior to the mid-80s / late 80s. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted December 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 Jumbo was supposed to beat Misawa for the TC in '93? Interesting. I don't think I'd heard that before, but it makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Do we know any more about plans for the TC post '93? Fascinating to think about what that would've led to, but man would we have missed out on so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Taue got what would have been Jumbo's challenge: 2/93. Jumbo would have gotten the belt back. I've written about it a number of times, including here... probably even in the 1993 thread on the match. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted December 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Nope, not a word. At least not in that thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF3 Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Kabuki surprises me by still being in AJPW, then we get OUTSIDE INTERFERENCE in a '90s All-Japan match from Stan Hansen, and then he and Jumbo win the Tag Titles, too? What year is this?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soup23 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 This didn't excite me much and seems to be going backwards given Kabuki a belt at this point of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Ridge Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 I thought Kabuki left with Tenryu. Jumbo all over Williams and Gordy for a bit. Williams gets Gordy in the Oklahoma Stampede but Hansen! trips him up on the outside. Interference in AJPW? Big moment as it allows Jumbo to comeback and win with the backdrop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garretta Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 interesting that Stan screwing over his newest enemies (Doc and Bamm Bamm) allows an old enemy (Jumbo) to win the tag titles. I'd like to see this match in full at some point, as what we saw didn't look bad at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drew wardlaw Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Hmm not a lot here to grab on to, but Jumbo and Kabuki (!) win the tag titles, and Stan Hansen is out to screw over MVC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSR Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Last five minutes or so of action, and an Oklahoma Stampede on Kabuki but Jumbo is in there to break up the pin. Gordy goes to work on him until he’s able to get in a shot of his own to drop ‘Bam Bam’ and make the tag to Tsuruta. A pair of jumping knees, followed by a clothesline to both, but the MVC fight back and get a two count after a double shoulder block. Gordy with a powerbomb on Jumbo, and this time its Kabuki who is in to break things up. Oklahoma Stampede attempt on Tsuruta, but Stan Hansen has come out to ringside and hooks Williams’ leg as Jumbo falls on top for a near fall. Doc is distracted by Hansen and a knee to the back followed by a backdrop driver for another two count. Jumbo then evades a football charge, a second backdrop driver on Williams and this time it’s enough to get the win and become the All Japan World Tag Team champions. I’m not an All Japan fan, but it was clear that someone didn’t belong in this match! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawho5 Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 Seems to me this was more about furthering the rivalry between MVC and Hansen than anything else. If you really wanted to put over Jumbo and Kabuki, Hansen wouldn't have been there interfering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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