goodhelmet Posted March 24, 2014 Author Report Posted March 24, 2014 I think they should have an NXT match as the pre-show match. Right now, there are 17 guys in the Battle Royal... Mark Henry Big Show 3 MB Goldust Cody Miz Dolph Ziggler Kofi Alberto Del Rio Fandango Christian Sheamus Big E Titus Damian Sandow No Wyatts, Shield, Usos or Real Americans in there yet. I am pretty sure Darren Young, The 3 Matadores, Truth, Xavier Woods, Khali, Rey, Rusev, Ryback, Curtis and Brodus Clay can be added without much trouble. Having trouble coming up with the last guy who isn't in NXT or one of the tag guys above.
Johnny Sorrow Posted March 24, 2014 Report Posted March 24, 2014 I think they should have an NXT match as the pre-show match. Right now, there are 17 guys in the Battle Royal... Mark Henry Big Show 3 MB Goldust Cody Miz Dolph Ziggler Kofi Alberto Del Rio Fandango Christian Sheamus Big E Titus Damian Sandow No Wyatts, Shield, Usos or Real Americans in there yet. I am pretty sure Darren Young, The 3 Matadores, Truth, Xavier Woods, Khali, Rey, Rusev, Ryback, Curtis and Brodus Clay can be added without much trouble. Having trouble coming up with the last guy who isn't in NXT or one of the tag guys above. Sin CaraAnd Ryback is definite , he was like the second guy announced.
goodhelmet Posted March 24, 2014 Author Report Posted March 24, 2014 Ryback and Axel were both in the official picture on the WWE website but both were taken off so I am only going by the pic on the website, John Cena also announced he was going to be in it on RAW when they announced the Battle Royal the night after Chamber.
Johnny Sorrow Posted March 24, 2014 Report Posted March 24, 2014 Ryback and Axel were both in the official picture on the WWE website but both were taken off so I am only going by the pic on the website, John Cena also announced he was going to be in it on RAW when they announced the Battle Royal the night after Chamber. Well that's two different things. I guess they must be changing up their ideas on the tag match to include Ryback and Axel, but Cena was never actually going to be in the Battle Royal.
goodhelmet Posted March 24, 2014 Author Report Posted March 24, 2014 I just listened to the WO podcast from earlier this week and it appears that the tag match at Mania will be Usos vs. Ryback/Axel vs. Real Americans
Johnny Sorrow Posted March 24, 2014 Report Posted March 24, 2014 I just listened to the WO podcast from earlier this week and it appears that the tag match at Mania will be Usos vs. Ryback/Axel vs. Real AmericansThat actually sounds like a fun match. It should be fun and I'm wondering if they choose Mania for the Cesaro turn to start. Or not turn but Americans break up.
The Chief Posted March 24, 2014 Report Posted March 24, 2014 Thirty is too many people for a battle royal, I would be ok with twenty. I can definitely see them filling spots with "Wrestlemania Legends" like Duggan and Slaughter. I would prefer they actually put some effort into getting midcard guys in meaningful programs in time for Mania, but at this stage whatever.
Dylan Waco Posted March 24, 2014 Report Posted March 24, 2014 I like Ryback and Axel as a team, but I can't think of any reason why they are in that match and not the Rhodes Brothers. I assume Cesaro turns on the show, as I think The Shield split is being held off.
Johnny Sorrow Posted March 24, 2014 Report Posted March 24, 2014 You don't want two good guy teams in that three way. As it is it's Good guy Usos, bad guy Rybaxel, and Bad Guy Real Americans with a guy who the crowd is itching to cheer for so much it's turned them into "cool heels". The Usos need to be the only pure good guy team in that match, having the Rhodes in it would throw off the dynamic.
Dylan Waco Posted March 24, 2014 Report Posted March 24, 2014 I'm looking at this more from a kayfabe/how things have been presented on tv perspective. I'm not sure Rybaxel have ever won a match. The Rhodes Brothers beat the Real Americans twice in a week on t.v., and one of those matches was referred to as a number one contenders match. Rybaxel just lost to Los Matadores on tv clean as a whistle. In principle I don't disagree with your argument, and have no problem with Ryback and Axel getting the spot/pay day.....except it makes no fucking sense based on how the teams in question have been booked
Matt D Posted March 24, 2014 Report Posted March 24, 2014 Rybaxel are in there due to corrupt Authority politics. I wonder if Goldust's temper tantrum hurt them?
(BP) Posted March 24, 2014 Report Posted March 24, 2014 I'd hope most of the heat for that is on Fandango. Goldust was clearly shaken up by what could have been a serious injury.
Johnny Sorrow Posted March 24, 2014 Report Posted March 24, 2014 Rybaxel are in there due to corrupt Authority politics. Oh that's right, I forgot about that.
Jmare007 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 The fear from 70,000 fans at NOLA (and millions watching at home) when HHH hits that pedigree will be even bigger than when he hit the Tombstone on Taker. Can't wait. Specially for the pop they'll get when Bryan kicks out.
anarchistxx Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 It's kind of funny how Orton/Batista have basically become a total afterthought for the show. They've gone from the principal stars and headliners to just props in the bigger storyline, roles that could be filled by basically anyone. Props to WWE for changing their mind for once and listening to the fans.
Johnny Sorrow Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 roles that could be filled by basically anyone. Nah, if it wasn't Orton and Batista the backlash reactions for Bryan wouldn't be as heated. Number one, Orton and Bryan work together amazingly and have killer matches, and number two, Batista getting the reactions he got and the whole Evolution deal have a big effect. "Basically anyone else"? Nah. Bryan being the new hero of the fans and new top guy is totally dependent on the idea that it's HHH and "his guys" are his adversaries. You know ....like it was maybe planned this way.
Jimmy Redman Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 Yeah, Batista is key to the reactions which in the end tipped them to doing the match in the first place. But I mean, where he is now, as a begrudging heel whom nobody actually wants to see and is just there to tease a non-happy finish, as compared to him coming in as the supposed big babyface returning star to headline Mania...it's quite a way away. Orton is pretty much furniture though. He's been funny and all, but in terms of being important to the angle in any way or being a guy anyone cares about, he's really quite invisible.
Jesse Ewiak Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 roles that could be filled by basically anyone. Nah, if it wasn't Orton and Batista the backlash reactions for Bryan wouldn't be as heated. Number one, Orton and Bryan work together amazingly and have killer matches, and number two, Batista getting the reactions he got and the whole Evolution deal have a big effect. "Basically anyone else"? Nah. Bryan being the new hero of the fans and new top guy is totally dependent on the idea that it's HHH and "his guys" are his adversaries. You know ....like it was maybe planned this way. Well, I could believe that. Or I could believe all evidence out there. I mean, unless they decided to book the main event scene badly for most of the fall and winter to set up Wrestlemania.
goodhelmet Posted March 25, 2014 Author Report Posted March 25, 2014 roles that could be filled by basically anyone. Nah, if it wasn't Orton and Batista the backlash reactions for Bryan wouldn't be as heated. Number one, Orton and Bryan work together amazingly and have killer matches, and number two, Batista getting the reactions he got and the whole Evolution deal have a big effect. "Basically anyone else"? Nah. Bryan being the new hero of the fans and new top guy is totally dependent on the idea that it's HHH and "his guys" are his adversaries. You know ....like it was maybe planned this way. Well, I could believe that. Or I could believe all evidence out there. I mean, unless they decided to book the main event scene badly for most of the fall and winter to set up Wrestlemania. This. WWE got hit with a Bootista sledgehammer. There was no way in hell they "planned" the reception he got at Rumble or Chamber.
Matt D Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 I find myself agreeing with Johnny a good bit over the last week. I feel like Johnny Logic syncs in to the actual truth twice a year, Mania season and the first couple of days of WWE unleashing their hot summer angle before it all goes south. That said, there's no way in hell they planned for this. I'm kind of sad we didn't get corporate Sheamus though.
Parts Unknown Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 I dont think its a foregone conclusion that bryan is beating HHH then going on to win the big one. Maybe its me being cynical but I dont see HHH being used as a stepping stone to further bryan. If anything he will probably win the title and have bryan chase him, get some screwy wins, end result being batista v HHH at summerslam and bryan farting around in the midcard with his heat dissipated.
Bierschwale Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 That's why people suspect that Bryan-HHH will end in a double DQ/no contest, and that he'll have to go over him in the title match.
Jimmy Redman Posted March 26, 2014 Report Posted March 26, 2014 I can honestly envision a scenario where Hunter cheats to beat Bryan in their match so that Hogan can do his job as the host of Mania and create a four-way. Kind of like Orton beating Rey and Rey getting put back in anyway because reasons. It sounds God awful and is unlikely, but I can imagine them trying to stretch it out like that, and of all people, it's Hunter.
(BP) Posted March 26, 2014 Report Posted March 26, 2014 If Bryan takes any kind of fall at any point, regardless of it being overturned later, it'll let all the air out of the building and they'll never get the crowd back.
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