Loss Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 As strange as it sounds, I don't think he's committed enough to the gimmick. He's just a dude who wears a t-shirt and white trunks. His long, stringy Wyatt Family hair doesn't fit his gimmick either. They should be going for the Tom Cruise "Respect The Cock" vibe turned up to 100. He should wear a headset mic, constantly be shilling self-improvement books and have glittery jackets. His best feature is his great smile and he hides it with his overly long hair. He doesn't look like a star at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 There's meta vibes to Bo's character where part of the gimmick is that he sucks. Angle never had that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russellmania Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Bill ,Angle was a gold medalist destined for a run on top who could go. Bo Dallas is comedy character who isn't a smooth worker. To compare the 2 and how they are/were viewed by the company and not grasp that they are/were being booked differently is just mind boggling to me. Initially I don't think Angle was all that different. Yes, he had the Olympic pedigree, but his initial character was about how foolhardy he was in thinking he was the best thing to ever happen to wrestling. He was every bit the delusional heel who thinks he's the babyface, and that's exactly what Bo is currently. The key will be if they transition Bo into something more serious without dropping the comedy. He can still be the character he is, but other wrestlers will eventually need to take him seriously. If they book it so that others start thinking and acting as if Bo is legit, then the fans will view him as legit, while he still retains the comedy. that's basically what his character was in NXT already. He was a delusional heel who thought he was a babyface, but he also had a real nasty mean streak in the ring and you could see that he had a real temper outside the ring. on the main roster he hasn't really been allowed to show that mean streak which is a key component of getting him over IMO. WWE creative has no idea how to book a character that's goofy and kind of funny but also a legit threat in the ring. I mean who is the last guy they booked that way successfully? Angle? Just look at Santino and Emma. They have no idea how to book funny wrestlers as anything but exclusively comedy acts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steenalized Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Putting him in a feud with Bo screams mid card talent. Kinda think this is where he's going to be anyway, honestly. Or he'll get turned into a Seth Rogan comedy character. I guess I just don't have a lot of faith in Sami Zayn on the main roster. Do people see him in NXT right now & think "this guy has RAW main eventer all over him." I just don't see it. Of course, I didn't see it with Punk or Bryan either & they proved me wrong. I've been wrong before, I'll be wrong again...but I still think the odds of being a Paul London are better than being a C.M. Punk. I see Zayn as a guy who will get over in time and eventually be championship material, like Bryan and Punk and like I think Rollins and Ambrose will be. They're guys who are simply too good to not get over, barring an intentional act or all time terrible gimmick. I don't think he'll get over right away, except for in a few smark heavy locations, or that he'll be ready to win a meaningful title for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 There's meta vibes to Bo's character where part of the gimmick is that he sucks. Angle never had that. Exactly, Angle would win with an Olympic slam. Bo wins some with the Bo Dog set up by some form of interference ,or in a total fluke manner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steenalized Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 As strange as it sounds, I don't think he's committed enough to the gimmick. He's just a dude who wears a t-shirt and white trunks. His long, stringy Wyatt Family hair doesn't fit his gimmick either. They should be going for the Tom Cruise "Respect The Cock" vibe turned up to 100. He should wear a headset mic, constantly be shilling self-improvement books and have glittery jackets. His best feature is his great smile and he hides it with his overly long hair. He doesn't look like a star at all. If he does that he needs a segway, otherwise it's spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 I think Zayn has a lot of upside potential , but will need booking help. His Debut is going to be needed to be handled right. Like Loss says beat Orton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eduardo James Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 There's meta vibes to Bo's character where part of the gimmick is that he sucks. Angle never had that. Exactly, Angle would win with an Olympic slam. Bo wins some with the Bo Dog set up by some form of interference ,or in a total fluke manner. Bo's won most of his matches cleanly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 There's meta vibes to Bo's character where part of the gimmick is that he sucks. Angle never had that. Exactly, Angle would win with an Olympic slam. Bo wins some with the Bo Dog set up by some form of interference ,or in a total fluke manner. Bo's won most of his matches cleanly. If you say so. I'll concede that point. The only thing that Angle and Bo are booked similar they were/are full of shit. Though it was obvious they had long term plans in the booking for Angle to be near the top. For Bo they probably view him in the Santino mold. They might have similarities, but the context is completely different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Bo has really gotten over among the sports guy casual types I follow on Twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 I want Steen and Zayn to be the new Quebecers. Heck Jacques and Pierre both trained/mentored them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Can he sing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Wiz Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 I think Dallas is as likely to have a good, sustained upper card run as he is to fall by the wayside in a few months. All depends on what/if the character evolves into. As for Zayn, the only thing certain is that he is NOT coming in as a main eventer and staying there forever. Unreasonable go even hope he will. If he's given chances, I think he'll hit home runs, but he's going to be put on the bench a few times before he's hitting at the top of the line up consistently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCampbell Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Debut him as a mystery partner for a top babyface: Cena gets put into a match against Rollins and Orton, and the catch is that Cena has to find a partner, or it's a handicap match. And, just to sweeten the pot, HHH insinuates that anyone who steps up is going to face huge consequences. Zayn is the partner, and he gets to show off his stuff and even pins Orton to win. He debuts with a bang, and seems like a big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Angle was sincere about being a role model, Bo is totally insincere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantherwagner Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 As strange as it sounds, I don't think he's committed enough to the gimmick. He's just a dude who wears a t-shirt and white trunks. His long, stringy Wyatt Family hair doesn't fit his gimmick either. They should be going for the Tom Cruise "Respect The Cock" vibe turned up to 100. He should wear a headset mic, constantly be shilling self-improvement books and have glittery jackets. His best feature is his great smile and he hides it with his overly long hair. He doesn't look like a star at all. I think the long hair and dumb grin is supposed to mock the 80s babyfaces. I have always thought he's doing a Vic Steamboat parody gimmick. The smile is tremendous. On the commitment part I disagree with you. I see Bray Wyatt or Rusev and I see a gimmick, I doubt they are like that in real life. I also see a gimmick in Bo but he makes me wonder if he's really THAT dumb. But he doesn't look like a star and I don't see the gimmick having more than a few months left, which is a constant problem with recent WWE gimmicks like Fandango, Adam Rose, Brodus Clay, probably Rusev and I'd say even the Wyatt family though these guys will be fine and grow over the gimmick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkdoc Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 gimmicks like adam rose & the funkasaurus could last longer if they gave a crap you need to gradually develop those characters and start showing other sides of them. i loved the idea someone here had - have rose beat people up out of nowhere, and eventually reveal that he has a split personality w/ "adam rose" & "leo kruger"! really, in general, that kind of development has been highly lacking in WWF/E and it's something they will need to learn if they want to be taken any more seriously as "entertainment" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantherwagner Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Nothing against the gimmicks. It's all WWE's fault. In today's world Hacksaw Jim Duggan would probably be a six month gimmick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrblue Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Put him back in the mask, perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 I thought the perfect way to debut Zayn was back when Ryback was going his backstage bully stuff, just going up and intimidating and messing with random backstage staff. Sami, being a "regular" looking guy, could've been one of those people who Ryback tried to mess with but Sami would take it for awhile and then clock him one, humiliating him and leading an impromptu match for the next segment, with the commentators explaining that he was an NXT guy up to visit the main show and Ryback didn't know. Give Sami the shocking win off a flash pin or something and there you go. Obviously that ship sailed a year ago but I thought it was the perfect moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 I think the way to go is to have Bryan introduce him. Months ago I thought he could be the Authority's attempt to recreate their own Bryan but it is too late for that. This was actually another recent idea I had as well. Imagine Bryan were champ and show him as a guy from NXT visiting the main show and have him come across Triple H or something and Trips belittles him, implying that he can't make it with the "big boys," stuff like that. Bryan either intervenes or has a promo about it later, saying he knows that Sami is one of the most talented guys out there and that he won't stand to see another guy just like himself getting held down despite his talent, so he's gonna show the world how talented Sami is, and gives him a title match right that night. They have a hard fought match but Bryan wins decisively and gives Sami the hand-raise after the match. Obviously that is smark fantasy booking to the nth degree but I think it would be incredibly effective and special moment that would get Sami over big, no matter what they want to do with him afterward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawho5 Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 Job him out to Kane on the next RAW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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