thebrainfollower Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Harley and the Kongs are a good pick. So obscure I spent 30 seconds thinking "That..............happened"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainmakerrtv Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 I will say, though, that pairing did lead to one of my all time favorite TV matches, in that the Kongs ambushing Sid Vicious so that Flair brought out his good buddy Arn Anderson to team with him against Vader and Steve Austin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Harley Race and the Collossal Kongs. Not only was Race not able to get the Kongs over (a Herculean task for anyone), even as a kid I wondered why Race was managing these losers. Harley had only managed world champions in Luger and Vader, and in my eyes would only manage the elite. The Kongs were so obviously not on the level of Race's other charges, and it actually diminished Race's aura for me. And Yoshi Kwan too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaymeFuture Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Harley and the Kongs is an excellent call. Seeing them in a Worldwide squash, even as a kid they looked so fucking bushleague in their fur coats and black spandex, and wondering why Race of all people was with two dime store Vaders when he had the real deal at the same time. I will concede to being scared of Yoshi Kwan when I was six, however. Think it was the eyebrows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woof Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Davari managing Kurt Angle is my all-time personal head-scratcher. I still don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckScumm Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Teddy Long with Joey Maggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parties Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Definitely not the worst all-time, but the first thing that came to mind was Flair's tutelage of the Miz, which led to several weeks of Miz botching Figure 4s on live TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Teddy Long with Joey Maggs. Teddy Long managed a bunch of jobbers during the Nitro era, which made no sense and was a giant waste of Long's potential. His success in the WWF a half-dozen years later is proof that WCW had no idea how to use most of the people they had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death From Above Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Jimmy Hart was really discarded post-Hogan there too. Okay he managed Meng but they never really pushed Meng past "kills jobbers, jobs to (flavor of the day)". Hell, I was never even that clear why Hogan was being teamed with a mouthpiece anyway. He was really weirdly used by WCW. I was actually pretty baffled by Hart's seeming status in wrestling before Memphis stuff started being easily accessible on Youtube and whatnot. He's really not a guy I think was ever particularly well used by the WWF or WCW as a character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Johnny Valiant managing Demolition. Valiant is a loud New Yorker, yet he's with the new monster, kickass heels. Grand Wizard and Sgt. Slaughter. There is Wiz in his sparkling suit and turban, there is Sarge in his former Marine get up. Heyman with Curtis Axel. Not even Heyman could make this chump look credible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Wizard and Sarge were perfect together. Wiz would wear his red, white, and blue sparkling cap and gear, while leading him to the ring or creepily smiling and rubbing his hands together behind Sarge during a promo; they were a great combo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrainfollower Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Didn't see it as it happened but I am not sure Johnny. From what I've seen Sarge could have handled things without a mouthpiece but that was not typical of the era. So of the choices, Wiz makes the most sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Fuji managing Demolition never worked. Either time. They should have turned them face way before they actually did, and had Fuji bring in the Powers of Pain as heels to get revenge. I think they put Fuji with them in 1990 just to cool them off, make sure the fans were behind the LOD, and to downgrade the team to mid-cart after that feud was over. Heenan would have been a good choice instead in 1990. Bobby didn't have a tag team, and Fuj already had the Orient Express. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 A face Ted Dibiase managing the Steiner Brothers in WCW was odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrainfollower Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 I think the whole idea was he turned on the NWO and was repenting for misdeeds and the Steiners needed a mouthpiece. Think it would have been better to include the Giant and make a small stable out of it myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 It's too bad that the injury took him out when it did. Needless to say he would have been worth more to the company as an in-ring talent. And FWIW I didn't think he was too awful in the WWF when he managed. He looked more the role when he started wearing more tasteful suits instead of his old attire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Hiro Matsuda managing Ric Flair. Could have made sense if they had him feuding with Great Muta as a face, but just barely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 My time watching Mid Atlantic in 1984 produced an odd pairing: The Zambuie Express, which was Leroy Brown and Ray Candy doing a black Muslim militant gimmick, managed by #1 Paul Jones. They could have been great heels since they were two big scary mofos , but it just killed their character to be managed by the walking embodiment of what they were supposed to be against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Bobby Heenan hasn't been mentioned once, other than the story of Rude hating being managed by him. I never saw him with The Missing Link, but I would guess that counted maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpetCrawler Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, flyonthewall2983 said: Bobby Heenan hasn't been mentioned once, other than the story of Rude hating being managed by him. I never saw him with The Missing Link, but I would guess that counted maybe? Gotta disagree in that Heenan I feel was perfect for The Missing Link. The entire schtick they did was Heenan was a guy who was completely incapable of handling him while also bragging about being able to handle him. It fit the Heenan character of the time perfectly in thinking he could handle literally anything and then rather than admitting Link was too out of control for him, doubling down on it. Them giving The Missing Link to Jimmy Hart would be on the list of terrible combinations though. Hart didn't really have the same sense of timing Heenan did wrt The Link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 1 hour ago, flyonthewall2983 said: Hiro Matsuda managing Ric Flair. Could have made sense if they had him feuding with Great Muta as a face, but just barely. That's one of those things that was a capsule of its time that seems odd now. At the time there was an anti Japanese trend since their economy was booming and they were buying/getting interest in traditionally American companies or landmarks. Matsuda "took over" control of the Horsemen in a wrestling version of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRH Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 Stan Hansen being managed by Freddie Blassie in early 80s WWF. You had roughneck Hansen being managed by a guy in a glittey coat. Didnt fit together at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 Harlem Heat with Jacquelyn didn't work at all. Flair and Sherri never made much sense to me either. Pairings that shouldn't have worked but DID: Harlem Heat and Sister Sherri, Kevin Sullivan and Jacquelyn, Anderson/Eaton and MPS Hayes (lasted only a few weeks, but it was amazing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 On 8/16/2019 at 4:08 AM, JRH said: Stan Hansen being managed by Freddie Blassie in early 80s WWF. You had roughneck Hansen being managed by a guy in a glittey coat. Didnt fit together at all. Blassie would often get the big goons and foreigners. Wizard the more technical guys, and Albano the tag teams. For example, as well as Hansen, Blassie managed Ivan Koloff in his comeback runs, Swede Hanson, Killer Khan, Blackjack Mulligan, George Steele, Dick Murdoch. So Blassie managing a big cowboy was nothing out of the ordinary at all. Similarly, when Sarge — a more technical guy — was with Wizard, that was not unusual either. One thing I noticed is that generally Wizard would manage the top heel and Blassie would manage the “monster of the month”, while Albano would be involved in more angles. Vince Jr kept some remnant of this structure for a time with Heenan in Wizard role, Slick in Blassie role and Jimmy Hart in Albano role. Mr Fuji was more of a lower card manager. There was even a storyline with Slick buying out Blassie’s contracts. And that’s why Slick mostly managed big monsters like Boss Man, Akeem, Hercules, Bolsheviks, Warlord, Kamala, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Rock Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 Surprised no mention of Flair-A.J. unless I missed it somewhere. Although I think that was hurt most by them basically trying to have A.J. do the Nature Boy gimmick which just didn't fit at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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