KrisZ Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Kris is joined by Dylan Hales (Wrestling Culture) & Kevin Cerrutti (AWA Wrestling Historian Khawk) to discuss the career of Nick Bockwinkel. We go in depth about all the trials and tribulations of Nick’s career especially all the places he went as AWA Champion truly making it a world title. We also go over all of the great opponents he faced as champion and talk about his legendary tag team with Ray Stevens and partnership with Bobby Heenan which turned the AWA on it’s head. We also talk about some lesser known angles in Bock’s career especially one involving Gordon Solie which is a must listen. Sit under the learning tree with us because this is a must listen. http://placetobenation.com/exile-on-badstreet-19-the-life-times-of-nick-bockwinkel/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Oh, you guys got Khawk. That's great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Two shows on Monday? Fuck yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlingshotSuplex Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Wow. The podcast bomb has been dropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smack2k Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Two shows on a Monday....fuck yes....one issue...its during a short week....only 3 days of driving back and forth to get as much in as I can.. Damn you Thanksgiving weekend... Started in on the Bock show, 40 min and didnt wanna stop...cant wait to hear the rest of my personal pick for best ever... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Kris, I love when you tell stories about your relatives and wrestling. I laughed at the ice cubes being thrown at heels from a few shows ago and had to tell my wife about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Just 15 mins into this, and honestly am more excited about khawk being on that if Kris had booked Melzter himself to do this show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khawk20 Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 I cut this from the Bockwinkel RIP thread, I was about to talk about this at the very end, when we got cut off, to close the show... *** Back about a decade ago (maybe a little more even), I sent a tape of some of Bock's matches to a friend that lived in Vegas to give to Nick at one of the CAC weekends that he was going to. Nick actually took the time to videotape a personalized thank you note to me after he got the tape from my friend, on the spot, in the middle of everything else he was involved with at the CAC.Extremely classy to do something like that and it confirmed that his style and class wasn't just an act, it was a real thing.RIP Champ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Enthusiast Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 This was great, guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomethingSavage Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Awesome story, kHawk. Just wrapped up listening late yesterday evening, and the closing felt like a cliffhanger. Meant to check out the thread to see the story with Bock - so I'm glad ya shared it here.Good stuff, guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantherwagner Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Tremendous show - my old buddy khawk had a lot of valuable insight on the feeling on things at the time they actually happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khawk20 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 I'm old. Sometimes it helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadMick Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Really enjoyable podcast lads, you did Nick proud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 A few little things, been listening to this on and off for the best part of a week. - Dylan, you mentioned that Arn Anderson is really the only other guy who gets that sense of legitimacy across but watching 85 Crockett on the network, I was reminded again at how tremendous Ole Anderson was in that respect. Would you put Ole in the with Arn and Nick or a notch below? - Regarding the Flair vs. Bock match the the shoehorning of that backslide into a bridge spot. I am not a huge fan of that spot, and so I tend to notice it ... And basically, I think it's a Dory Funk Jr spot, and then Brisco, Terry Funk, Harley and Flair ALL did it in their various defences. Like a very staple "go to" to eat up two minutes or so. I wonder if it was less a staple of working Ric's match and more a staple of an NWA title match. I mean they'd shoehorn Baba into that spot. It seems like it was such a standard thing that they maybe wouldn't even consider the possibility of not doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Great stuff, guys. The Gordon Solie angle shit was aces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwaukegan Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 I really enjoyed the show. It was a great retrospective of how great Nick really was. I recommend that those who haven't seen them search out Bockwinkel's post retirement matches against Dory and Robinson. They aren't much to really write home about, particularly the Robinson match. But it's amazing how Nick was still able to be so smooth after years of inactivity. I think if the desire was there, Nick could have still gone until the mid 90s at a very high level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Finished this yesterday. I thought it was excellent, that Kevin was a fresh voice on these and so full of context and information, and also great insight into the mentality of an AWA fan of the era, even in just his tone. If anything, I wish the show had more time, to go even more in depth. I'd be really interested to hear you guys do a focus on Mad Dog Vachon with him at some point, for instance. Again, just a great job from everyone. The only major thing I'd amend, was Dylan, towards the end talking about how much joy babyface Bock had. I really think that's something you see in his heel work as well, especially when he's not up against the monsters like Verne or Hogan. There's a glee in him punishing or showing up other wrestlers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradhindsight Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Great show guys - not just for Bockwinkel but for a reminder of how thw AWA is often overlooked due to previous preceptions (esp the Hogan one that was fleshed out). Kevin was great - he sounded like if Johnny P was from Minnesota. Really the same kind of cadence (one I enjoy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstar Sleeze Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 This was wicked awesome. Kris narrated the story well and guided the listener year by year, Dylan filled in with well-founded opinions and kHawk was straight cash money in one of the single greatest podcast appearances of all time. The perspective as a fan who grew up watching all this was completely invaluable. I just wrapped up the four major Bock/Hennig matches from 86/87 and one the major themes I was going to write about in my reviews was exactly what Dylan points out in how how much you see Hennig progress in each of these matches and how he gets closer and closer, but also becomes more and more disillusioned with the system. Ultimately, I am in love with the heel turn and I will explain that in that match review, but Bock/Hennig feud is an all-timer no doubt.Really great stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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