Jingus Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Yeah, but then you have to write at least three match writeups per person. I don't feel like doing that a couple dozen times for the various people on my list whom nobody else has nominated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 There are 25 people who would make your top 100 who haven't been nominated?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Yeah, probably. Mostly indy guys who are relatively obscure, but also a few Divas and others that nobody else on here would even consider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concrete1992 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Can you maybe list them out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Why bother? Most of them are small-timer local workers whom I've known personally that nobody else has ever heard of, some of whom might not even have enough matches online to rate. And the rest of it runs into "trying to justify why I'm so fond of Daffney, and Sakura Hirota" sort of territory, which is a tough argument to make beyond resorting to plain old they-entertain-me-and-make-me-laugh-a-lot vagueness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 PM me Jingus. If some of the guys in question are Certain TN indie workers we both like I'd be willing to watch and review the matches if I know who they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Schneider Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 You serious think Daffney is one of the 100 hundred greatest wrestlers of all time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Phil in quickly to prove Jingus right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Daffney once did the impossible and actually entertained me during one of those fuckin' creepy empty-room "custom" matches; I've refereed a few of those and absolutely hate them, they're the most unnatural and awkward things you can possibly do. But she saved this one by basically treating the entire thing as a parody of itself and being a never-ending chatterbox of hilariously cheesy lines. ("No, don't give me a hip toss!!!" she shrieks... a solid five seconds before said hiptoss is applied.) For me, yeah, managing to make a silk purse out of THAT level of nasty rotten sow's ear is worth a vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted January 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Daffney once did the impossible and actually entertained me during one of those fuckin' creepy empty-room "custom" matches; I've refereed a few of those and absolutely hate them, they're the most unnatural and awkward things you can possibly do. But she saved this one by basically treating the entire thing as a parody of itself and being a never-ending chatterbox of hilariously cheesy lines. ("No, don't give me a hip toss!!!" she shrieks... a solid five seconds before said hiptoss is applied.) For me, yeah, managing to make a silk purse out of THAT level of nasty rotten sow's ear is worth a vote. Top 100 wrestlers in the history of the world? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Phil Grimmas in quickly to prove Jingus right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted January 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Â Phil Grimmas in quickly to prove Jingus right. Â She entertained you in a shitty situation. Heck Al Snow entertained me in the Kennel from Hell match, should I vote for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Now, now it's all subjective don't forget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Heck Al Snow entertained me in the Kennel from Hell match, should I vote for him?If he entertained you that much and it wasn't by you laughing at how bad he was, then yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted January 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2016  Heck Al Snow entertained me in the Kennel from Hell match, should I vote for him?If he entertained you that much and it wasn't by you laughing at how bad he was, then yes. That's a high bar to become one of the 100 greatest wrestlers ever.  One entertaining performance in a shitty situation should not be even close to enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Democracy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 One entertaining performance in a shitty situation should not be even close to enough. Oh, that's far from the only time I was thoroughly amused by her enlivening a cold-dead-corpse of a situation. When I first saw her at a WCW house show, she was working way harder as a manager than most of the then-indifferent wrestlers were even trying to do in the ring, and I've seen her succeed in various other situations where nobody had any business being any good at all (remember Nise Sarah Palin in TNA?). The empty-room bullshit just came immediately to mind first because it was such a clear example, since I've been there and done that and it's damn near impossible for that stuff to ever be anything but an embarrassing clusterfuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted January 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Â One entertaining performance in a shitty situation should not be even close to enough. Oh, that's far from the only time I was thoroughly amused by her enlivening a cold-dead-corpse of a situation. When I first saw her at a WCW house show, she was working way harder as a manager than most of the then-indifferent wrestlers were even trying to do in the ring, and I've seen her succeed in various other situations where nobody had any business being any good at all (remember Nise Sarah Palin in TNA?). The empty-room bullshit just came immediately to mind first because it was such a clear example, since I've been there and done that and it's damn near impossible for that stuff to ever be anything but an embarrassing clusterfuck. Â A great character, ok. Is she a better wrestler than Ricky Steamboat? Little Guido? Earthquake? Triple H? Taz? Â Where does she rank as a worker? What are her strengths as a wrestler? We are talking about the 100 best wrestlers of all-time, make a case for her. None of what you are saying is anything more than enjoying a manager/wrestler who made the most out of shit. Is Prince Nana on your list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Redman Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Which is why she should be nominated, so we can talk about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkdoc Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 FWIW i don't recall us giving nearly this much shit to the guy who has ultimate warrior in his top 100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concrete1992 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Â Â One entertaining performance in a shitty situation should not be even close to enough. Oh, that's far from the only time I was thoroughly amused by her enlivening a cold-dead-corpse of a situation. When I first saw her at a WCW house show, she was working way harder as a manager than most of the then-indifferent wrestlers were even trying to do in the ring, and I've seen her succeed in various other situations where nobody had any business being any good at all (remember Nise Sarah Palin in TNA?). The empty-room bullshit just came immediately to mind first because it was such a clear example, since I've been there and done that and it's damn near impossible for that stuff to ever be anything but an embarrassing clusterfuck. Â A great character, ok. Is she a better wrestler than Ricky Steamboat? Little Guido? Earthquake? Triple H? Taz? Â Where does she rank as a worker? What are her strengths as a wrestler? We are talking about the 100 best wrestlers of all-time, make a case for her. None of what you are saying is anything more than enjoying a manager/wrestler who made the most out of shit. Is Prince Nana on your list? Â She...she is literally not nominated so I'm not sure why you are pressuring anyone into a discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted January 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 FWIW i don't recall us giving nearly this much shit to the guy who has ultimate warrior in his top 100 Warrior had a **** 3/4 star match in his career. At least one more **** 1/2 and some **** ones as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted January 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Â Â Â One entertaining performance in a shitty situation should not be even close to enough. Oh, that's far from the only time I was thoroughly amused by her enlivening a cold-dead-corpse of a situation. When I first saw her at a WCW house show, she was working way harder as a manager than most of the then-indifferent wrestlers were even trying to do in the ring, and I've seen her succeed in various other situations where nobody had any business being any good at all (remember Nise Sarah Palin in TNA?). The empty-room bullshit just came immediately to mind first because it was such a clear example, since I've been there and done that and it's damn near impossible for that stuff to ever be anything but an embarrassing clusterfuck. Â A great character, ok. Is she a better wrestler than Ricky Steamboat? Little Guido? Earthquake? Triple H? Taz? Â Where does she rank as a worker? What are her strengths as a wrestler? We are talking about the 100 best wrestlers of all-time, make a case for her. None of what you are saying is anything more than enjoying a manager/wrestler who made the most out of shit. Is Prince Nana on your list? Â She...she is literally not nominated so I'm not sure why you are pressuring anyone into a discussion. Â Ok. Jingus, review three of her matches and nominate her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exposer Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I want to make my stance clear once. If there are people who will vote, want to vote, or are thinking about voting and are considering wrestlers that haven't been nominated please nominate them. Don't let a couple of match reviews set you back. Don't even let the fear of people overreacting to your nominee stop you. I don't give a fuck if Kofi Kingston, Buck Zumhofe, Torrie Wilson, or Logan Alvey are nominated. I don't want to read back handed posts about people claiming they would have voted if so and so had been nominated or any other excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotJayTabb Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 To back up Exposer's point, I nominated (and will rank) Tom Zenk, who almost everyone except me seems to hate. If I hadn't, then I wouldn't be submitting a list I felt entirely happy with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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