iamthedoctor Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Id imagine any chance of seeing a photo of the two would have to come down to the Battle Royal at the Albert hall as Andre made a appearance at the end of the show & Taker was in that match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchistxx Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 The Chris Benoit RR match was probably the best as an actual match, believable in that it went on for several minuts after the last entrant and built up some proper tension. The ending was extremely euphoric and cathartic at the time also - people are spoiled these days in terms of undersized internet/critical/workrate favorites getting WWE pushes. Just a shame how it all turned out. Not sure if it was the best as a show as I can't remember what was on the undercard. It wasn't the Rumble where Bob Holly got a title shot was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerpride Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 It was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchistxx Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Jesus. Considering how stacked their roster was at the time with big names and great workers that is crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 It was a throw away angle based on Brock breaking his neck that time. It served it's purpose on the show. I remember being disappointed with the Eddie/ Chavo match but I've never watched the show since being there live. I remember loving the HHH/ HBK match live. Edit: so now I've decided to watch it. I totally forgot I saw Batista/ Flair vs Dudleys in a table match. Edit: It's amazing that I remembered us being disappointed with Eddie/ Chavo live and on TV this was great. Man, the Holly vs Brock match was good shit. And the promo shit to build it up ruled. I also forgot I saw Noble vs Rey in a fun match as well. Edit: Do people shit on this HHH/HBK LMS Match? Cause if anyone does they're simple . This is just as awesome on TV as it was live. What a great bloodbath of a match. I remember people hating the finish , but it worked given the ongoing nature if the story. The finish pissed off the crowd cause the match was so awesome and it really seemed like HBK was gonna win. But looking back it's just a fucking great match that was as bloody as the cover of a random issue of The Wrestler from 1979. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alucard Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 I loved the build to Brock/Holly. Classic revenge story that worked really well at a time when Smackdown was super fun to watch. The match was decent, maybe nothing special and the result was never in doubt but I always thought it was a great use of Holly and a cool, rare use of continuity from something that happened over a year prior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthedoctor Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 It was a throw away angle based on Brock breaking his neck that time. It served it's purpose on the show. I remember being disappointed with the Eddie/ Chavo match but I've never watched the show since being there live. I remember loving the HHH/ HBK match live. Edit: so now I've decided to watch it. I totally forgot I saw Batista/ Flair vs Dudleys in a table match. Edit: It's amazing that I remembered us being disappointed with Eddie/ Chavo live and on TV this was great. Man, the Holly vs Brock match was good shit. And the promo shit to build it up ruled. I also forgot I saw Noble vs Rey in a fun match as well. Edit: Do people shit on this HHH/HBK LMS Match? Cause if anyone does they're simple . This is just as awesome on TV as it was live. What a great bloodbath of a match. I remember people hating the finish , but it worked given the ongoing nature if the story. The finish pissed off the crowd cause the match was so awesome and it really seemed like HBK was gonna win. But looking back it's just a fucking great match that was as bloody as the cover of a random issue of The Wrestler from 1979. The build up to this match was amazing. Every time you saw a Smackdown Bob got the upperhand every time and it looked like he was going to take the belt alough the big match on PPV seemed a bit short. I did like the LMS match at the Rumble. It was a good bloodfest and Shawn bled loads. Id say the only thing I hated about it would be the ending how it ended in a draw especially for a PPV match that people are paying to see. Yes it was to further the feud between the two at Mania with Benoit added in but it be nice to see someone walk out with their hand raised. I think thats one thing that bugged me with WWE especially on one of the big four PPVs when you get a lousy decision on a Championship match. Maybe if Shawn hadent been so obsessed with the I dont want the World Title back then maybe we would have seen a few more title changes as I think he was forced to be the champion at Survivor Series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 I absolutely love this topic, so much that I thought it would make for an really fun podcast on the Best & Worst Royal Rumble PPVs in history, so for those who are interested in such a discussion, you can hear our show at the following link - a really fun look at classics like 1992, 2000 and 2001, ones that may have fallen short like 1993, 1995 and 2006, and a whole host of others that people made a strong case for, one way or the other. http://squaredcirclegazette.podbean.com/mf/web/8wiksa/SCGRadio27-TheBestandWorstRoyalRumblePPVs.mp3 '95 is one of the best overall shows and the Rumble match is an easy top 5 Rumble match itself. So vastly under rated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaymeFuture Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 That's why I used "may" for those shows, 1995 got voted for worst by somebody who sent a submission in and I'm not so negative. 93 is much the same for me, people bury it and the Rumble isn't good at all, but the undercard isn't terrible by any stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soup23 Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 I watched Holly vs. Brock on Saturday. More intensity was shown in the opening stanza of that than in most of the HIAC between Rollins and Ambrose. Fun sprint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantastic Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 1992 - 2001 - 2004 Three way tie for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthedoctor Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 That's why I used "may" for those shows, 1995 got voted for worst by somebody who sent a submission in and I'm not so negative. 93 is much the same for me, people bury it and the Rumble isn't good at all, but the undercard isn't terrible by any stretch. I dont blame whoever it was called 1995 the worst because going by the actual Rumble itself was just pants. Started with Shawn & Davey and both lasted to the end which is a terrible idea. Nothing against those two because they are great wrestlers but the idea of starting numbers 1 and 2 being also the final 2 doesnt sound good. Having people come out at 30 seconds because the Bret/Diesel match went on longer and people got eliminated quicker too isnt something I liked. The undercard matches were alot better with the Kid/Holly walking out with the belts is probably my fav match of the night. Razor/Jarrett I expected Ramon to smack Jarrett about and walk out with the belt so didnt enjoy the idea of jarrett taking the belt or the mess that happened at Mania ie Razor not winning the title back. Bret/Diesel was a good batch enjoyed this and odd to see a face vs face title match. Decision not so much just eject the heels from ringside and continue the match. Taker/IRS yeah I liked this match, could have been cut a few mins short but no complaints from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaymeFuture Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Agreed on the match itself. The actual field is such a sorry state of affairs, and as much as I like Shawn and Davey, in January 95, even as a youngster it just felt like they were midcarders only getting there because the field was so weak. When a returning heel Crush makes the final three, you know there's issues. I think calling the whole show the worst requires a deep hatred of the Rumble match itself, deeper than I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidebottom Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Id imagine any chance of seeing a photo of the two would have to come down to the Battle Royal at the Albert hall as Andre made a appearance at the end of the show & Taker was in that match. Do you think that's the only time they were in the same building or something? Some of your posts leave me scratching my head mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerpride Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Edit: Do people shit on this HHH/HBK LMS Match? Cause if anyone does they're simple . This is just as awesome on TV as it was live. What a great bloodbath of a match. I remember people hating the finish , but it worked given the ongoing nature if the story. The finish pissed off the crowd cause the match was so awesome and it really seemed like HBK was gonna win. But looking back it's just a fucking great match that was as bloody as the cover of a random issue of The Wrestler from 1979. Call me simple then, because that match was awful. Awful finish, not much going on and two guys trying to do an epic match and failing miserably. The match on RAW a month prior was much better. Holly v. Brock sucks too since no one took Holly seriously. Eddy v. Chavo is just odd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 I didn't mind the finish of HBK/HHH in '04. The blood was nice and I thought the finish was well executed. The match was just a lot longer than it needed to be given where they were going, which is saying something given what they'd do 6 months later. Cut out some of the aimless filler and I'd have thought it was damn good. As it was I enjoyed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artDDP Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 1989: Not the best, but lots of good backstage number-drawing segments. Duggan/Hart Foundation vs. Bravo/Rougeaus is a fun 2/3 falls. Bret's FIP and Duggan had become a cartoon after winning the Rumble a year earlier, but Rougeaus were good heels. What I really liked in that match was that guys didn't stop covering their opponent just because someone tried to break up the pin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Edit: Do people shit on this HHH/HBK LMS Match? Cause if anyone does they're simple . This is just as awesome on TV as it was live. What a great bloodbath of a match. I remember people hating the finish , but it worked given the ongoing nature if the story. The finish pissed off the crowd cause the match was so awesome and it really seemed like HBK was gonna win. But looking back it's just a fucking great match that was as bloody as the cover of a random issue of The Wrestler from 1979. Call me simple then, because that match was awful. Awful finish, not much going on and two guys trying to do an epic match and failing miserably. The match on RAW a month prior was much better. Holly v. Brock sucks too since no one took Holly seriously. Eddy v. Chavo is just odd You should watch it all again cause you're just wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerpride Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Edit: Do people shit on this HHH/HBK LMS Match? Cause if anyone does they're simple . This is just as awesome on TV as it was live. What a great bloodbath of a match. I remember people hating the finish , but it worked given the ongoing nature if the story. The finish pissed off the crowd cause the match was so awesome and it really seemed like HBK was gonna win. But looking back it's just a fucking great match that was as bloody as the cover of a random issue of The Wrestler from 1979. Call me simple then, because that match was awful. Awful finish, not much going on and two guys trying to do an epic match and failing miserably. The match on RAW a month prior was much better. Holly v. Brock sucks too since no one took Holly seriously. Eddy v. Chavo is just odd You should watch it all again cause you're just wrong. I've watched RR 04 a million times. HBK v. HHH is a boring wank match in their long series of them. I'm glad it ended in a draw to set up even more matches with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthedoctor Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Id imagine any chance of seeing a photo of the two would have to come down to the Battle Royal at the Albert hall as Andre made a appearance at the end of the show & Taker was in that match. Do you think that's the only time they were in the same building or something? Some of your posts leave me scratching my head mate. Im not sure. Given Takers debut at the 1990 Survivor Series and Andre blowing his knee out in Japan I dunno where else they would have been i the same building. Shame he got hurt in Japan and had to pull out of the Rumble. I know a taping in March 91 had Andre there during that Perfect/Michaels match. Wrestlemania VII is the obvious memory of both being at the same PPV. Apparently during the UK tour of 1991 Andre did tag up with The Rockers, and lets not forget the MSG show where Jake had Andre in his corner while Taker wrestled Warrior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchistxx Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Edit: Do people shit on this HHH/HBK LMS Match? Cause if anyone does they're simple . This is just as awesome on TV as it was live. What a great bloodbath of a match. I remember people hating the finish , but it worked given the ongoing nature if the story. The finish pissed off the crowd cause the match was so awesome and it really seemed like HBK was gonna win. But looking back it's just a fucking great match that was as bloody as the cover of a random issue of The Wrestler from 1979. Call me simple then, because that match was awful. Awful finish, not much going on and two guys trying to do an epic match and failing miserably. The match on RAW a month prior was much better. Holly v. Brock sucks too since no one took Holly seriously. Eddy v. Chavo is just odd This. Pretty sure it must be misguided revisionism that these matches are considered any good - they were slaughtered at the time and Hardcore Holly getting a title shot was widely derided as he was previously a borderline comedy jobber and was considered no threat to Brock. Indiciative of how far the day to day product has fallen if these are considered awesome matches. They didn't stand out at all at the time, not for any good reasons anyway. HHH/HBK was half an hour of overblown lying around if I remember. Eddie/Chavo was a massive disappointment. Considering Johnny Sorrow likes 99% of the content Titan Towers put out I'm not sure his opinion that we are 'just wrong' should be taken overly seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Eh, it's closer to 89%. He hates Killer Kowalski and Dick Whoerle and he's not crazy about the Ascension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF3 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Eh, it's closer to 89%. He hates Killer Kowalski and Dick Whoerle and he's not crazy about the Ascension Don't forget Mil Mascaras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Well, doesn't everyone hate Mil Mascaras? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strand Peanut Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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