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I don't think they booked today as the PPV date for any nefarious reasons, and they probably didn't name it that way for any specific reason, but you're right, it's really odd, and I'm curious if any Hart family member will throw a fit over it.

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I honestly don't think WWE has many staff from 1999 who are still there and would get the significance. This is simply a bunch of coincidental decisions from the scheduling department, the marketing department, and the arena booking department.

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It's a weird coincidence because today is the 11th anniversary of the death of Owen Hart on a live PPV, and that show was called Over the Edge, very close to tonight's Over the Limit. Don't expect any mentions of that coincidence on the broadcast. Most in WWE were not aware of this coincidence earlier today, but no doubt by this point the word has gotten around. Not too many people are in the company who were even around at that time.

http://www.f4wonline.com/content/view/13471/

 

Own up who here told WWE?

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Hey, remember when Scott Hall was actually on Antabuse in an effort to stay sober and Steve Austin poured beer on him? That was a dick move.

I was going to bring this up at Cageside Seats, but do we really buy the Scott Hall was taking Antabuse story anymore? I get Jake Roberts becoming a born-again Christian vibes from that story.

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Hey, remember when Scott Hall was actually on Antabuse in an effort to stay sober and Steve Austin poured beer on him? That was a dick move.

I was going to bring this up at Cageside Seats, but do we really buy the Scott Hall was taking Antabuse story anymore? I get Jake Roberts becoming a born-again Christian vibes from that story.

 

I'm pretty sure that other wrestlers saw him vomiting from the reaction.
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Hey, remember when Scott Hall was actually on Antabuse in an effort to stay sober and Steve Austin poured beer on him? That was a dick move.

I was going to bring this up at Cageside Seats, but do we really buy the Scott Hall was taking Antabuse story anymore? I get Jake Roberts becoming a born-again Christian vibes from that story.

 

I'm pretty sure that other wrestlers saw him vomiting from the reaction.

 

When was the beer spot? I seem to recall Hall being drunk off his ass Mania weekend, so it must have been before then.

 

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Basic question

 

When newsletters state that Diva X is getting aapush as she is a "favourite of management."

 

Is "management" mostly Vince or is it a catch all of all WWE management.

I always assumed when a diva is a favorite of management, it's code for "diva who is willing to fuck John Laurinaitis."

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Let's see what Google finds me:

 

LOP's recap of WWF Excess 3/9/02:

 

On RAW, Steve Austin had a match with Booker T. Once again, a killer match was interrupted, this time by the n.W.o. Scott Hall and the boys leave Austin lying with help from a wrench. He refused medical attention, which REALLY reminded me of his neck being broken for some reason. Backstage, the n.W.o. were drinking Austin’s beer which I have a REAL problem with.

 

GET READY FOR A RANT!

 

Scott Hall has an illness. It’s called alcoholism. He’s a drunk. In order to keep from drinking, he’s taking antabuse, a pill which causes him to vomit when in the present of alcohol. The WWF’s response is to immediately book Scott Hall around tons of beer – which has caused him to be sick backstage. The WWF is apparently troubled by this, and want him off the antabuse. By taking him off the antabuse, they’re suggesting that an alcoholic who has limited control over whether or not he has a drink goes at it cold turkey. Thus setting Scott Hall up to fail once again, sending him back into the tailspin that is known as the destruction of his life. It’s sickening that they’re going out of their way to see him fail. Either back your investment by allowing him to combat what ails him, or fire him because as far as I’m concerned doing what you’re doing with him is not going to bring back the money you’ve invested into bringing him into the federation in the first place.

Recent WC thread.:

 

Back in his last days on RAW, Scott Hall was desperately trying not to drink, so much so that he was taking that medication that makes you sick if you even have a sip of alchool after taking it. He told Vince McMahon and the WWF team that he was not drinking, was committed to being sober and was taking those pills.

 

So what does Vince McMahon do? He orders up a skit where Scott Hall ends up out cold in the ring and Steve Austin calls for the beer cans to be tossed to him and he opens one after another and pours them all over Hall. Hall ends up soaked in beer. Kevin Nash, Hall's best friend, was furious about that for a long time.

I recall that and I recall reading an interview with Hall on WWE.com back in 2002 where he stated he was taking Antabuse.

I believe Hall was in fact ordered by a judge to take Antabuse after he got a DUI in Florida. He had been picked up driving the wrong way down a one way street. He had been on the way to meet his ex-wife and pick up his kids.

Contemporary WC thread:

 

Got this from one of the wrestling sites, that credits it from the Observer Newsletter:

 

There is apparently somewhat of a concern backstage in the WWF, rising from Scott Hall's drinking problem. It is well-known that Hall now takes a particular type of anti-alcohol abuse drug which causes him to feel sick and throw up whenever he is close to alcohol. Hall threw up on the February 19 episode of SmackDown!, in which alcohol was a focus point when Stone Cold Steve Austin poured beer all over Hall. The question raised backstage is whether Hall should discontinue using the drug during events so that he avoids any problems in alcohol-related angles, such as on Monday's RAW when he handed out beer to Hulk Hogan and Kevin Nash.

So it was before WM, and they were more worried about him being unable to do alcohol-related angles than his well-being. Wonderful.

 

That said, Scott Williams added this:

One detail of the Observer report you left out was that Hall has been getting beer dumped all over him at house shows, without any sign of sickness, so some apparently believe he's only taking the stuff at TV tapings.

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Sounds like a lot of conflicting shit in all of that. Hall being on-off of antabuse is damn strange, but not inconsistent with the reality that Hall's nuts.

 

You'd have to go back and actually watch the beer dumping to see if it looked like a planned spot or if Hall was surprised and trying to get away from it. From CRZ:

 

http://slashwrestling.com/smackdown/020221.html

 

Steve Austin is WALKING! I guess he was off to find a cameraman to follow him around or something. He enters a walk-in freezer, where Scott Hall is duct taped to a chair - also duct tape over his mouth. "You coolin' off? Worked up a little sweat there, didn't ya? Huh? Runnin' from Stone Cold, you worked up a sweat, you coolin' off?" Austin lovingly fixes Hall's hair for him. Is this what bondage porn is like? "You don't mind if I drink a beer, do you? Do you mind if I drink a beer? Is that gonna upset you? Am I gonna offend you if I drink a beer? Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh - hehehehe - you come in here screwin' with Stone Cold Steve Austin, did you think you were funny? You didn't impress me one bit. You little (beep), you got something to say to me? Huh? You got something you want to say to Stone Cold Steve Austin that's gonna impress me?" Austin tenderly caresses Hall's face with his tire iron. Hey, I think he wants to DO him! "You come into the World Wrestling Federation looking to make a name for yourself on Stone Cold? Ruin my title shot? Where's your little friends? Huh? What? Where's your little friends now, what? Where ARE they?" Austin grabs two bottles of Bud Light (I kidnap a man and you give me LIGHT beer?) He unscrews one and takes a swig. "You want one of these?" He rests it on Hall's shoulder. It tries to roll off, twice, so he fixes it. Austin grabs Hall's string of hair and puts it back over his face. "You gon' learn - real fast - that you don't screw with Stone Cold Steve Austin. I'll be back in a little while!" Hall fails to look at the cameraman and beg for him to free him. Wotta dummy.

Back to Austin, who has taken Hall out of the freeze and wheeled him...somewhere else. He asks Hall if he wants to go for a ride with him. Crowd says "hell yeah" 'cause Hall can't. Austin asks if the three letters on his chest is supposed to impress him, what, intimidate him, what, if it does it don't. "You mind if I drink a beer? Another beer? Before I take you on this ride?" Austin asks if Hall can be the designated driver, since he's had too much to drink tonight. "It'd be stupid - just like you were stupid to interfere with Stone Cold Steve Austin's match!" Well, this is what you get for coming between a junkie and his stuff, man. I'd transcribe this for you, but it's so much like the freezer speech. Austin wheels Hall's office chair...and, man, Hall is struggling SO hard, he doesn't even bother to let his feet drag on the floor.

Austin is STILL wheeling Hall around (how big IS this building?) and offering to sing him a song. We come to a cage marked "Engineering" - "Nah, I can't take you there, I ain't got a college degree!" They settle on "Maintenance." There's a spotlight set up there, so Austin wheels him in. "That's what you wanted isn't it? To be in the spotlight? You're a big star!" Austin undoes Hall's ponytail 'cause it makes him sick. Austin says his little friends will come looking for him - he's a piece of cheese, the bait for his friends. "Because they like ya - why, I have no idea." When they show up, they'll say hello to HIS little friend. "Just sit there and shut up. Thank you." Oh MAN IF ONLY Hogan and Nash could just turn on a TV! I mean, Austin just revealed his *entire* plan to them! AUSTIN'S SO STUPID - NO WAIT, HOGAN AND NASH ARE SO STUPID because they can't take advantage of this - ohhhhhh my head is really starting to hurt

Oh, damn, we're back to the kidnapping bit. "Get up! Oh, I get it - 'Help! I've fallen and I can't get up!' What?" With one stomp, ALL the duct tape comes FLYING off of Hall - wow, way to help me suspend my disbelief! Austin throws Hall into the bed of the truck - one more crowbar shot to the sternum to make sure he stays there - and Austin starts driving. Wait, has he sobered up yet?

Break the glass one more time - STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN drives to the ring one more time - well, there you go, it ain't drunk driving if he never goes onto a public road. Igloo into the ring. Austin to the truck bed - CLEAN & SOBER is still in there - Austin gives him a right hand, then runs him into the ring. Austin pops open a cold one, then smacks Hall with it. Austin with another beer - and a mic. Hall to his feet - ANOTHER beer to the head. See, they were right - beer ISN'T good for Hall! "Hey yo! I said hey yo! Hey yo. You wanna play with Stone Cold Steve Austin? Is that what I'm gettin' from you? Do you think you're funny? Are you supposed to amuse me? Make me laugh? Make me smile? Slap my knee? Split my sides? No! I said no. Oh, you ain't gotta run off" - field goal kick - "I said you ain't gotta run off so quick. I thought we'd drink a beer - a cerveza - a brewski - a Steveweiser - (kick) - you don't like to drink beer? Huh? What? You ain't thirsty? You cost me the title and now you don't wanna drink beer with me? You're hurtin' my feelings! I'm gettin' sad! Melancholy - I wanna cry! I said I wanna cry! Cry! 'cause that sum(bitch) don't wanna drink beer with me (stomp)! I'll tell you what. Scott, can I tell you a story? Can I tell you a story? I wanna tell you a story. A lullaby. A chain of events. (field goal kick) 'scuse me. Did that hurt? I'm sorry. My apologies. I didn't mean to hurt your little ribs. You know what I'm gonna do ladies and gentlemen? I'm gonna tell you what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna express myself. I'm gonna verbalize. I'm gonna communicate. What I'm gonna do - is kick (kick) this sum(bitch) every time you say 'what.'" Stomp, stomp, stomp, stomp, stomp, stomp, stomp, stomp stomp stomp stomp stomp stomp stomp stomp - stomp. "I'd keep kicking but I don't wanna wear out a good shoe. You wanna cost me the title, are you okay? Are you okay? What? You all right? You drunk? You got a buzz? You don't feel good? You can't drive? You ain't got designated driver?" Right hand puts him down. "Dammit, that's my drinkin' hand! I told you once, you son of a bitch - Stone Cold Steve Austin is the last son of a bitch that you want to mess with. Do you understand me? Tell your friends. Hulk Hogan - Kevin Nash - your teammates - your buddies - your confidants - I ain't got no more words." We see Hogan and Nash attempt to force the door...aparrently oblivious to the fact that it opens from the back. Austin has another beer. "Last thing I got to say to you - get up, you wanna drink a beer with me? You wanna drink a beer? You thirsty? Are you done? Get up. I'm tired - of whippin' - your ass - let's drink a beer - because...there you go." Austin offers the toast - laughs - laughs - KICK WHAM STUNNER. Austin's watch is talking to him...he goes back to the truck and finds a can of spraypaint in the truck - removes Hall's shirt and listens to the crowd's chant.....shoots the beer and paints "3:16" on Hall's back. Play his music!

Looks like beer is pretty much "written" into the whole script of the ongoing skit. Hard to blame Austin for it, since it's not just one ad-lib. Looks like dumbass WWF Creative, and probably Hall (if he was really trying to stay sober which is always doubtful in his case) for not standing up when the storyline was pitched and asking for beer not to be a part of the skit.

 

John

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Is it possible for Blake Norton to ever NOT be self-aggrandizing?

From: Blake Norton

Date: Mon, May 24, 2010 at 4:04 PM

Subject: Batista using Stu Hart’s “Stu Lock” submission

To: [email protected]

 

 

Hey guys,

 

The new submission hold Batista has used on WWE television the last

few weeks is called "The Stu Lock."

 

I adapted it from a stretch Stu Hart regularly demonstrated on myself

and countless other victims in The Dungeon, and used it as a finisher

while wrestling in England since 2004.

 

You can see Stu's original stretch, which is similar to the “Rings Of

Saturn,” in part 3 of the "Surviving The Dungeon" documentary on

youtube. It's the hold a minute in which makes me whimper "my left arm

is numb!" (“my will isn’t notarized” and “I regret everything” came

later):

 

 

And you can see the modern version put on a variety of ways six

minutes into the promo video for my last indy match in Dublin from

2007:

 

 

I’m sure the hold - like every hold - was used somewhere in the world

at some point prior, but seemingly not with any notoriety. I can’t

think of anyone more deserving to have a hold named after them than

Stu, so if it wasn't otherwise named before 2004 I'd love "The Stu

Lock" to catch on among wrestling's most dedicated fans.

 

Best,

 

Blake Norton

 

(Director of "Surviving The Dungeon")

Somebody needs to find the beginning of the first episode of "The Bagpipe Report" on The Wrestling Channel, as he gives himself the most amazing verbal blowjob you've ever heard.
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