AEW Dynamite - July 7th, 2021 - On The Road Again

[NintendoLogic]

That idiot clearly has no idea how many times Cornette was arrested or sued for using his racket on rail jumpers.

Also, somebody better have read MJF the riot act for this. Fans charging the ring isn't something you can even hint at encouraging.

[strobogo]

1. Cornette/Russo are far more similar than they are different and I believe that's the main reason they hate each other so much. 

2. A heel saying something like that after a fan jump the railing is not something to read the riot act over, imo. 

 

Especially as AEW has actually done worked angles with fans throwing shit or trying to attack MJF previously, I wouldn't at all be surprised if it was a plant this time a well.

[Rah]

He uploaded a video a week back telling Cody, Ogogo and team to apologise or else. He seems certifiably insane - like murder-spree insane.
 

 

[strobogo]

Oh. Well maybe not then. But I still don't think it's a big deal for MJF to say what he said. That's some real basic ass heel 101 shit.

[SirEdger]

He was looking at Jim Cornette & Brian Last's approval and that got him a block from Brian Last. Irony at its finest.

[sek69]

14 minutes ago, SirEdger said:

He was looking at Jim Cornette & Brian Last's approval and that got him a block from Brian Last. Irony at its finest.

Yeah the thing is this is pretty much the end game for Jim's carny bullshit. All it takes is one unstable person to take it to heart not realizing he's "working" and take matters into his own hands.

[NintendoLogic]

Nothing Cornette has said about AEW can be rationally construed as incitement to violence. There's no way he can be held responsible for the actions of a guy who's clearly off his rocker. He's been saying far worse things about Vince Russo for decades, and there have been no attempts on Russo's life that I'm aware of.

[MoS]

The guy basically said on Twitter weeks back that he was going to do this shit. He is clearly insane. 

And I am actually kind of surprised no one has ever tried to actively harm Russo. This guy might be clearly insane, but he is far from the only wrestling fans over the years who has been clearly insane 

[sek69]

44 minutes ago, NintendoLogic said:

Nothing Cornette has said about AEW can be rationally construed as incitement to violence. There's no way he can be held responsible for the actions of a guy who's clearly off his rocker. He's been saying far worse things about Vince Russo for decades, and there have been no attempts on Russo's life that I'm aware of.

He's built up his brand by saying AEW is damaging to wrestling while making derogatory statements toward the people involved. I'm not saying Jim specifically sat down and decided to invoke violence, but he should have considered the effect the shit he says has on people who are fervent believers, let alone someone who might be mentally ill. Reminds me a lot of a certain other person who says shit to rile up his followers then is seemingly surprised when they in fact get riled up. 

[Ryan Faulconer]

I hate the leaps he takes when ranting about AEW. I really do enjoy whatever Corny says about wrestling for the period ending with whatever work he got cajoled into by Jeff Jarrett’s umbrella promotion.

 Now that he is quasi-out of the business pretty much everything he says about modern wrestling is ignorant at best.  Most of the time the way that he demeans AEW wrestlers just seem waaay too personal for it to just be about wrestling.  The scary thing is that it probably is just about wrestling.  If it isn’t exactly wrestling related then he needs some counselling from one of his sponsors.

This IS Jim Cornette we are talking about…of course ot is probably 100% about professional wrestling.  That’s always what makes his stories so worth skipping past (or listen, because I do) the hatred for all that he can no longer comprehend in the wrestling business.  He has great insight until maybe around the 2015-16.  Will Ospreys and Ricochet might have been the straw to break Cornette’s brain.

[strobogo]

Does Cornette have any singular interest beyond pro wrestling? 

[MoS]

I believe he likes reading comic books and I think drawing/sketching

[Ricky Jackson]

Yeah, he has a massive comic book collection. He also sells classic comics afaik 

[Mad Dog]

2 minutes ago, Ricky Jackson said:

Yeah, he has a massive comic book collection. He also sells classic comics afaik 

Yeah, that's always the best parts of his shows. I think he has sold off a lot of it. I know he sold his copy of Amazing Fantasy #15. 

[strobogo]

Dude is obsessed with wrestling and comics and has the nerve to talk about people liking/doing stupid shit? lmao

[sek69]

Honestly, he seems like any other person who went so deep into his hobby he sees anything that challenges what he's comfortable with as a personal attack. I see it all the time in the gaming world, and comics might be the worst when it comes to that. People completely tie their identity into their hobby/obsession and they end up losing themselves. 

[PeteF3]

I mean, Cornette probably has lots of strong opinions on comics too, but wrestling wasn't just his hobby, it became his livelihood and the livelihood of many of his friends. 

[strobogo]

How does Cornette himself reconcile all the ridiculous and/or terrible shit he's been involved with or booked over the years with criticizing other things he just doesn't get so intensely? Or does he just ignore that conundrum all together?

[funkdoc]

Cognitive dissonance is strong, man

That and sometimes he could make excuses for his shit that people might buy.  e.g. "Rick Rubin made me do it" wrt the mummy in SMW

[Mad Dog]

1 hour ago, sek69 said:

Honestly, he seems like any other person who went so deep into his hobby he sees anything that challenges what he's comfortable with as a personal attack. I see it all the time in the gaming world, and comics might be the worst when it comes to that. People completely tie their identity into their hobby/obsession and they end up losing themselves. 

Comics have kind of become a game of when they finally cross that line for someone on price and reboots. The fandom does get toxic but the companies all employ very predatory business practices and are just at the point of gouging whatever they can get out of the couple of fabs still buying their books. 

[sek69]

2 minutes ago, Mad Dog said:

Comics have kind of become a game of when they finally cross that line for someone on price and reboots. The fandom does get toxic but the companies all employ very predatory business practices and are just at the point of gouging whatever they can get out of the couple of fabs still buying their books. 

I used to be into comics, but it got so hard to follow the storylines. Between yearly reboots and having to buy a million different books to get the entire story, it's like comics are stuck in a Groundhog Day loop. 

[Mad Dog]

32 minutes ago, sek69 said:

I used to be into comics, but it got so hard to follow the storylines. Between yearly reboots and having to buy a million different books to get the entire story, it's like comics are stuck in a Groundhog Day loop. 

I find older stuff easier to understand and follow. Things like Marvel Unlimited and DC Universe make buying floppies a poor deal. 

But your experience isn't unusual. Manga and Scholastic releases like Dog Man just destroy comics now. They did it to themselves with short term thinking. 

[strobogo]

Corny being an omega tier (lol) nerd just raging at anyone thinking he's protecting his spot actually kind of makes sense. He'd no doubt be a reddit demon troll if he were 15 years younger.

[Mad Dog]

There's actually a good clip of Cornette talking about comics. He got into Marvel right when it was just pouring out great stuff on a monthly basis. I was actually kind of sad I was younger and couldn't have that same experience with Marvel.