KawadaSmile Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 And KO is a big snek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenese Sarwieh Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 Standard Raw opening, meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 I think Montez vs Otis could be a fun HBK-Vader style match as a one on one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 Ric posted and deleted this tweet. Oh, Naitch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 lol it's like he is almost baiting the fed to punish his daughter if they can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 I suppose with the passing of Judy Bagwell, Ric decided to step up and fill the "parent meddling in their kids' career" role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 Speaking of wrestling parents, have they even attempted an explanation for why Adam Pearce hates Rey Mysterio all of a sudden? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 2 hours ago, NintendoLogic said: Speaking of wrestling parents, have they even attempted an explanation for why Adam Pearce hates Rey Mysterio all of a sudden? Social media invented the storyline that Sonya picks on Naomi and Aliyah as she's racist. So he's probably that too in storyline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted November 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 Given how Aliyah was removed from the Survivor Series team with no explanation and Sonya was the one to nonchalantly give the news, they seem to be leaning into it. Also, when is Alpha Academy getting something to do? Otis has fucked around for quite a while without getting a meaningful push, and crowds like him and Gable enough to believe they could be credible champs. Specially that they are planting the seeds of dissension between RKBro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenese Sarwieh Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 48 minutes ago, KawadaSmile said: Also, when is Alpha Academy getting something to do? Otis has fucked around for quite a while without getting a meaningful push, and crowds like him and Gable enough to believe they could be credible champs. Especially since they did all they could protecting Otis taking him out the finish with having Gable taking the loss. I know it's meaningless but they're a good team that should have at least a decent run with the belts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted November 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 Yeah. I mean, they even gave THE DIRTY DOGS a title run. Why not a more competent tag team? Everyone else in the roster already had their chance... Gotta say, tho: their finisher is some EVIL shit. It always looks disgusting and I love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 So I noticed in the WO update, WWE did another batch of trademarks and most were obviously future NXT names, but they also did "Scrap Iron" too so it looks like this angle is going to lead to Adam Pearce putting on the boots again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 Watching NXT after watching some recent New Japan, it really is striking how different the training methods are. In New Japan, guys look like perfectly acceptable pro wrestlers after like 6 months. They usually still need more seasoning, but you can see they all have the basics down pat. WWE has people in developmental for YEARS and either folks don't ever get any better, or if they do they get everything they learned get taken away on the main roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted November 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 Most NXT success stories are of people who never really needed it that much. Bianca Belair might be their biggest name, but she seemed ready from the get-go. Bron is also a similar case. He's so good, he almost seems above NXT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 Yeah what worries me about Bron is the stuff he'd benefit from learning the most he'll never get taught at the PC. I just get afraid Vince will see him being awesome in NXT and get a boner to push him ASAP on the main roster way before he's ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 It's almost as if there's this thing called the Internet where people who want to see attractive women in revealing clothing can do so without having to sit through matches involving barely trained wrestlers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 Those NXT numbers are scary bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted November 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 The idea of pushing Toxic Attraction is goodt, but selling them (and the show, by extension) as the highlight of some T&A trash is absolutely not good. It's a shame because 2.0 is being really enjoyable, but its advertising is lacking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 But... but... but Sunny was the most downloaded personality on AOL god damnit !!! I know he's a corporate guy and all, but I can't imagine Triple H not finding some comfort in the fact NXT 2.0 has basically been a miserable failure after the first few weeks of curiosity... Wait for Motörhead to be heard again once his heart is in better shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 Just now, El-P said: I know he's a corporate guy and all, but I can't imagine Triple H not finding some comfort in the fact NXT 2.0 has basically been a miserable failure after the first few weeks of curiosity... Wait for Motörhead to be heard again once his heart is in better shape. Even if he could, how would he undo all the massive changes? New logo, new set, new wrestlers, new PPV names. 95% of "his" guys have been phased out or released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 1 minute ago, C.S. said: Even if he could, how would he undo all the massive changes? Skulls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 58 minutes ago, El-P said: Skulls. Crossbones too? Gotta have crossbones! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted November 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 Let NXT be a developmental for once, man. It's fun that way, regardless of ratings and such. Really, if they manage to season guys like Bron Breakker, Carmelo Hayes, Tony D'Angelo, Cora Jade and LdF (this one is 100% ready tbh) for the main roster, they are already doing a wayyyyyyyy better job than SKULL AND CROSSBONES BASEMENT NXT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 Ok, now I think we've reached the point where NXT really gets some revisionist history. Fact : for a while, NXT was the hot and cool brand of WWE. The show was the hot topic, the Takeovers were talked about as the best stuff the company was presenting, stealing the shows on Mania & SummerSlam week-ends, with some of the best matches in the history of the company. One of the most anticipated stuff in WWE was "Look who's in the crowd at Takeover !" and "When X or Y from NXT is gonna show up on the main roster ?" and when it did happen, it was always a big deal and those people were mostly received as stars (until they weren't, but that's an upcoming point). NXT absolutely was successful in creating buzz about workers and a coolness aura about its product and the people in it. Now, with times, it became obvious that the incompetence of Vince and his booking basically wasted 90% of the potential that was presented to him coming up from NXT. Some people tried to put the blame on NXT as they were not making "the right kind of workers", which is a completely ass-backward argument that shows that people have been watching WWE for far too long. When something is considered cool and has showed it can get over, you try and capitalize on its strenghts, not make it lesser or something else because that's not what you're used to. Case in point : Adam Cole, who looked like a big star in NXT including in the time when the coolness factor had dwindled down (because of several factors : the tiredness of watching everybody gets wasted on the main roster and being hurt by AEW mostly), was not even considered to be able to be one on the main roster. NXT has showed what he could be and absolutely had built him to that level. And what happens : Cole shows up to AEW and he looks like a star. Ditto Ales... Malakai Black, FTR and I would guess pretty soon a few others. So actually, NXT *was* successful in getting people over and presenting them like stars. The treatment they got in the main roster is what killed the buzz. If all the guys and girls who looked like star in NXT were pushed as such in WWE since 2014, the company would look very very different today. Now, this NXT2.0 may or may not develop talent. The thing is, it's also, and mostly, a weekly TV show, which for the longest time NXT wasn't, as a Network exclusive. As a TV show, it's more designed to actually get ratings, which is why the focus is on hot young women and tall guys, because that's what Vince believes works. And only after a few weeks, it's pretty obvious it doesn't work. Like, at all. As far as developing talent, who the hell knows, since it's not a given any of these people will ever become good working *that* show, working short matches and giving these awful scripted style promos. Sure Bron is pretty much a natural, more power to him in the main roster. But as far as a TV show that tries to attract a younger audience, which is what the program is designed to be about, it's just not working : lowest rating ever, median age 62. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 Ironically, pushing HOT CHICKS IN SKIMPY OUTFITS as a main focus of the show is probably going to draw in more of the 50+ demo than the 18-49 demo they want so badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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