Dav'oh Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 It's icky. But old people only being allowed to fuck old people? It's "outrage of the day", which keeps people tap-tap-tapping away, while the ACTUAL outrages which govern everyday life get ignored. I'm just asking for a bit of perspective. This affects Kylie. The real outrages affect everyone. Edit: I missed your "in the workplace" bit, so my first line doesn't really apply. Apologies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav'oh Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 Meanwhile, Jerry Lawler sips tea with his slippered feet on a pouffe, laughing his head off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrodak Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 This is not the worst sexual excess in wrestling history by a long shot, but Chris Jericho, a multi-decade veteran and genuine star who clearly has pull with Tony Khan and has at times seemed like effectively an EVP in all but name, should not be tricking young women much lower on the company totem pole into private meetings so he can try to fuck them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 6 hours ago, KawadaSmile said: Bro, dude's been injured for a year now. What the fuck is this? Like, Mox almost died because he kept going through an injury (2017 I think? One of his arms was all fucked up for the longest time), why didn't they give Lee some time off to heal? Lol, what? Lee was out 4 months after Full Gear 2022, and since he returned in March he's had like one or two matches each month. This year he's only had 17 matches total in AEW, and only 3 of them were singles matches that went past 8 minutes. I guess the Swerve match was initially booked to make another big injury angle to let him go rest again, but let's no act like Keith hasn't been given time to heal. If dude needed surgery and didn't get, not sure what you want AEW to do? We don't even know if they knew the extent of his injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 5 hours ago, Embrodak said: This is not the worst sexual excess in wrestling history by a long shot, but Chris Jericho, a multi-decade veteran and genuine star who clearly has pull with Tony Khan and has at times seemed like effectively an EVP in all but name, should not be tricking young women much lower on the company totem pole into private meetings so he can try to fuck them. It's actually even grosser than that when you remember Kylie has documented mental health struggles, and her sudden disappearance from AEW was, IIRC, the first time a story like that made the news. So as brother @Dav'oh mentioned, it's not the most outrageous story of our times, but it's starting to look like something happened that fucked her up mentally which deserves a little more than being treated like some fake Twitter outrage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 Lol at the crowd doing the Judas singing but then quite audibly booing when Jericho tagged in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrodak Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 Why the fuck was Tony Khan wearing a weird Afro wig and Elton John sunglasses glasses at a press scrum on a day where one of his biggest stars had just been accused of sex pestery? It’s like a gag from It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Embrodak said: Why the fuck was Tony Khan wearing a weird Afro wig and Elton John sunglasses glasses at a press scrum on a day where one of his biggest stars had just been accused of sex pestery? It’s like a gag from It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Because Toni Storm put it on him. TK's dumb ass probqbly wasn't expecting the Jericho question to be asked before he has solo time. He actually took it off after he answered the question and then had to address the issue in two separate occassions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinchStalker Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 Someone I follow on Xitter pointed out all of this stuff leading up to Fyter Fest 2019. It's all speculation at this point, but I haven't been able to stop thinking about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 It's sad, but Kota Ibushi probably should consider retirement. He fucked both his ankles in the NOAH match against Marufuji. He couldn't even stand at the end of the match. The guy was gonna be NJPW biggest new stars, he was one of the greatest worker in the world, then the G1 injury happened and it's just been disaster after disaster from that point on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ma Stump Puller Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, El-P said: It's sad, but Kota Ibushi probably should consider retirement. He fucked both his ankles in the NOAH match against Marufuji. He couldn't even stand at the end of the match. The guy was gonna be NJPW biggest new stars, he was one of the greatest worker in the world, then the G1 injury happened and it's just been disaster after disaster from that point on. I just watched his NOAH match and Christ it was depressing. Ibushi dragging himself along while being out of shape and incapable of doing any of his usual bits for 30+ minutes was a sad experience; even the crowd couldn't believe what they were seeing. What's sadder is that he'd probably be fine if he just had surgery right after the G1 stuff. He just refused to do so for whatever reasons he had, and, well..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man in Blak Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 I don't remember the details of Ibushi's AEW deal, but I'd say that maybe it's worth it for someone at AEW to make a phone call to whoever it was in NOAH that decided it would be a good idea to book Ibushi for a 35 minute match when it was reported that one of his ankles was already injured before the show. I agree that Kota might as well be wrestling with a fork in his back at this point -- to be frank, his AEW appearances have been so bad that they've been hard to watch -- but NOAH should have done better here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 At the very least, he needs to heal his injuries completely before entertaining working a match again. And something has to be done for his confidence, because it's been completely shot, and it's really sad to see. Maybe he can hook up with KENTA, who's NXT stint almost destroyed his career. Ibushi has enough character, charisma and ability to be creative to still be a really fun pro-wrestler in a different way than he used to. I could dig a Kota Ibushi doing nothing but chops, punches, kicks and intimidation. Who would have thought sometime in 2017, that 6 years later, both Shibata and Ibushi would be under contract with the second US promotion, the first still being awesome and the later being a tragic shell of himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 I truly wonder what happened because his first match back was for Bloodsport against Mike Bailey and he looked more than fine in that one. It all went to shit after it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 3 minutes ago, Jmare007 said: I truly wonder what happened because his first match back was for Bloodsport against Mike Bailey and he looked more than fine in that one. It all went to shit after it. No ropes. And that's been super obvious, he's been gun-shy about jumping to and off the ropes. He's been screwing it up (almost ?) everytime since he came back. The Bloodsport formula allowed him to stay on the mat and kept him from running too. And Mike Bailey. Well, 'nough said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, El-P said: No ropes. And that's been super obvious, he's been gun-shy about jumping to and off the ropes. He's been screwing it up (almost ?) everytime since he came back. The Bloodsport formula allowed him to stay on the mat and kept him from running too. And Mike Bailey. Well, 'nough said. Never really thought about it that way, very interesting. And yeah, Speedball is great but Kota has been facing top competition every time he's stepped foot in a ring since Bloodsport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 I don't think he's actually under contract with AEW, so I don't think TK could have any kind of say in what he's doing elsewhere, but everything caught up to Ibushi all at once and it sucks to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 Worst part is that's not just running the ropes. Everything on that WAR GAMES match he was on looked fucking bad, to his standards or not. Something between that Bloodsport match and his AEW debut must have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 He's looked bad in all of his AEW matches, both general in ring stuff and physically ( by his standards, which are not normal standards of course). The Ibushi of 2023 didn't look like the Ibushi of 2015-2021 at all. Whatever it was that kept him out of the ring in 2022 changed him completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man in Blak Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 4 hours ago, strobogo said: I don't think he's actually under contract with AEW, so I don't think TK could have any kind of say in what he's doing elsewhere, but everything caught up to Ibushi all at once and it sucks to see. He’s signed but, allegedly, it’s a “flexible” deal with a limited number of North American dates: https://www.cagesideseats.com/platform/amp/aew/2023/11/15/23963389/aew-signs-kota-ibushi-official-announcement-all-elite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 Is Ibushi the only wrestler in history to go straight from fresh-faced up-and-comer to completely washed up without an intermediary veteran gatekeeper period? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 20 minutes ago, NintendoLogic said: Is Ibushi the only wrestler in history to go straight from fresh-faced up-and-comer to completely washed up without an intermediary grizzled veteran period? Up-and-comer is more than pushing it, Ibushi was 39 and peaking (or arguably already past his physical peak) when he got hurt at G1. But yeah, I was wondering the same thing when I was watching the match and could not think of any comparable instance. A guy who was so damn great and came back so diminished, I can't think of. Hopefully he has a good support system, because it must be mentally crushing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert S Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 I am sure there were a bunch of young guys who got hurt really bad, Kentaro Shiga comes to mind, Takayuki Iizuka was a bit older, but he seemed to be on the brink of a big breakthrough when Nagai rearranged his face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, NintendoLogic said: Is Ibushi the only wrestler in history to go straight from fresh-faced up-and-comer to completely washed up without an intermediary veteran gatekeeper period? Honestly, KENTA's transition from "this is one of the best in the world right now" to "damn this guy is super washed" was similarly quick. At least we know the injuries and poor booking (but mostly injuries) demotivated him, but still, it all took two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 6 minutes ago, KawadaSmile said: Honestly, KENTA's transition from "this is one of the best in the world right now" to "damn this guy is super washed" was similarly quick. At least we know the injuries and poor booking (but mostly injuries) demotivated him, but still, it all took two years. True. I feel like KENTA peaked in 2008-09 -in terms of praise by online fans at least- and then was never again mentioned as a great wrestler by those who actually kept watching him. By 2012 he was definitely seen as "washed" and once WWE got him, no one that followed his latest years had a lot of faith in what he could do there. The hype was mostly from fans that had hear of him from his mid to late 00's work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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