KawadaSmile Posted January 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 I mean, at least it made sense. DX's segment, on the other hand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, Embrodak said: I can aaaaaalmost grok inviting Lawler because the accusation against him is a lot murkier and less publicized, maybe it’s a flimsier charge than we on the internet know (has it been studied by an investigative journalist? Serious question) Bix did a pretty comprehensive piece on it. https://deadspin.com/jerry-lawler-wrote-a-really-dumb-letter-to-prosecutors-1822790447 Bix seems to have his critics on Twitter and Reddit - I'm not sure why because I'm not invested enough to go down that rabbit hole - but he seems to do actual investigative journalism, unlike Sapp and even Meltzer most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 I guess when you have a show full of people accustomed to 10-15 minute overruns, you and up with Raw going off the air while Corey was in-mid sentence trying to Excalibur his way through Brock's return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 I enjoyed the fuck out of that show. Dom is fucking great. He's a heat magnet who gets boos in a time where wrestling fans love to cheer and chant, but rarely just fucking BOOII! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 It looks like they are building up to Sami finally having enough and telling Roman to GFY, and that's gonna get a monster pop when it happens. I wonder if they are going to do a Sting/Horsemen deal where Sami wins the Rumble and Roman just expects him either to give up the shot or do a Fingerpoke of Doom type situation to set up Sami finally standing up for himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 Nothing screams "Royal Rumble match actually don't matter" more than the fact we're 4 days before the show and only 7 women have been announced. Hard to not give less of a fuck in term of booking. As far as nostalgia goes, I think the question that should be asked is what does that kind of nostalgia even means. Racism and sexual assault notwithstanding, do people really are happy to see old guys standing there looking old while they are reminded or remind themselves of the "good ol' days" when "wrestling was good" and had "real stars" ? I mean, if that's your thing, then why don't you just watch some prime Flair, Hogan, Taker stuff. Is there a kind of schadenfreude to remind yourself that you don't actually consider pro-wrestling good anymore and that the people from 25, 30, 40 years ago are always be better in your mind ? Ins't this a little morbid to begin with ? If I'm a huge Roman Reign fan, I really don't care to be reminded that, hey, actually, John Cena is a much bigger star and he's going on the cover of the pro-wrestling game. If I'm a Sami Zayn fan, I really don't want to have old guys telling it's time to suck it like boomers edgelords on Facebook. And of course, you have the elephant in the room. Hulk "I guess we're all a bit racist" Hogan being celebrated. Ric Flair showing up at the same time Vince McMahon is taking back control of his company while paying ridiculous amount of money to women he absolutely did not sexually assault. Lawler's case is so old that most people don't even think about it anymore, since back then it was still the "groupies will be groupies" mentality, but if that happened during the #speakingout movement, I doubt he would be allowed on TV (then again, here goes Matt Riddle). And Taker, oh well, he apparently came on his bike, full on MAGA style, at least he's owning up his shitty views on life considering it was even part of his promo. So yeah. What's the point ? What's the message being sent ? What's the fun in this, expect blind validation of awful people from the past who also happened to be huge stars and great workers ? In 2023 ? Really ? (looking at the state of the world) Oh, of course. Obviously. Meanhwile, Mark Briscoe, who has not done anything wrong, won't be allowed on TV by WBD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 3 hours ago, sek69 said: It looks like they are building up to Sami finally having enough and telling Roman to GFY, and that's gonna get a monster pop when it happens. I wonder if they are going to do a Sting/Horsemen deal where Sami wins the Rumble and Roman just expects him either to give up the shot or do a Fingerpoke of Doom type situation to set up Sami finally standing up for himself. Sami is a lot closer to Ronnie Garvin than Sting. People will get behind him as a challenger, but giving him the rub of ending a multi-year world title reign would be a huge mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrodak Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 I think where they’ve kinda fucked themselves is Sami is now so closely identified with the Usos that them turning on him for a Sami/KO versus Usos match just doesn’t make sense. Jey fucking hated him and is now his biggest defender! Maybe they could do a thing where Roman defends each belt on each night? Defend against Sami the first night, have him win dirty but have the Usos finally break with Roman and save Sami from a post-match beatdown, then Cody comes in the next night and, Roman being Uso-less, finally loses one of his belts to Cody. Then you could have Sami win the other belt at the next PLE, cap that storyline without giving Sami the “beat the streak” rub, and finally give Roman a break to go away, do some movies or whatever, so he can come back and do something new for once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted January 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, Embrodak said: Maybe they could do a thing where Roman defends each belt on each night? Defend against Sami the first night, have him win dirty but have the Usos finally break with Roman and save Sami from a post-match beatdown, then Cody comes in the next night and, Roman being Uso-less, finally loses one of his belts to Cody. Then you could have Sami win the other belt at the next PLE, cap that storyline without giving Sami the “beat the streak” rub, and finally give Roman a break to go away, do some movies or whatever, so he can come back and do something new for once. This all makes sense, and it would go full circle since Roman was gaslighting his cousins all the way into The Bloodline. I wanna know what the plans for Solo are. He is positioned as the enforcer, and it doesn't seem to fuck with his brothers like that, either. With Roman gone, will he get a push? Also: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 Cody wins the Rumble. Sami wins Elimination Chamber in Montreal (he has to, since Kevin Owens is doing the J.O.B at the Rumble, and not getting a huge win for the local crowd would be ridiculous when they have two Montreal boys at the top of the booking sheets). Then what you said. And Cody "former EVP from AEW" Rhodes can slither his way into crying after winning the biggest match at the biggest Mania ever, because Dwayne can't be bothered anymore. What a life ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted January 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 It's not so much that Dwayne can't be bothered, but going back to wrestling after essentially frauding Black Adam's box office results would 110% give a message that he doesn't want - his days as a movie/TV star are numbered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 hour ago, KawadaSmile said: It's not so much that Dwayne can't be bothered, but going back to wrestling after essentially frauding Black Adam's box office results would 110% give a message that he doesn't want - his days as a movie/TV star are numbered. Well, if anything he could still show up at Mania to announce the attendance number then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) By the way, the Bellas did not come to the show because they were kinda pissed apparently. Brie is also retweeting Mandy Rose's latest special offer or something. That's quite unexpected from whom you'd perceived as more or less lifers (whether in the company or not). Case in point, they really did not bring out any women at all (well, expect the Bella's, who ended up not showing up). Food for thought in term of who you want to sell to or just your usual pettiness ? I dunno... Edited January 24, 2023 by El-P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 5 hours ago, El-P said: Meanhwile, Mark Briscoe, who has not done anything wrong, won't be allowed on TV by WBD. That changed as late as 20 minutes ago. Mark is wrestling Jay Lethal tomorrow night on Dynamite in Lexington, KY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, El-P said: By the way, the Bellas did not come to the show because they were kinda pissed apparently. Brie is also retweeting Mandy Rose's latest special offer or something. That's quite unexpected from whom you'd perceived as more or less lifers (whether in the company or not). Case in point, they really did not bring out any women at all (well, expect the Bella's, who ended up not showing up). Food for thought in term of who you want to sell to or just your usual pettiness ? I dunno... Seems to me like Nikki & Brie had a tad too much wine before publishing that video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, SirEdger said: That changed as late as 20 minutes ago. Mark is wrestling Jay Lethal tomorrow night on Dynamite in Lexington, KY. Well, at least a good news ! Much needed. That will probably also be positive for Mark's state of mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 Seems also that WarnerBros Discovery has changed their stance and Mark will be allowed on AEW TV going forward. A shame that it took Jay's tragic death to change that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted January 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 hour ago, El-P said: By the way, the Bellas did not come to the show because they were kinda pissed apparently. Brie is also retweeting Mandy Rose's latest special offer or something. That's quite unexpected from whom you'd perceived as more or less lifers (whether in the company or not). Case in point, they really did not bring out any women at all (well, expect the Bella's, who ended up not showing up). Food for thought in term of who you want to sell to or just your usual pettiness ? I dunno... Total Bellas' actual influence on drawing the female demographic to professional wrestling in general is quite understated, I feel. They are doing well for themselves without needing to have a 20+year career, AND Nikki in particular ended up being a pretty damn good wrestler even after a neck injury. They were 100% slighted, even if they were name-dropped. The only female legend I can remember yesterday was Alundra Blayze (who looked like Britt Baker at a glance lol). Truly baffling that not even BETH PHOENIX, who's as active as you could get for someone with legend status, didn't make it. For a night with some terrific segments and fun moments, having nearly zero women's wrestling legends on a night to celebrate legends is a way more glaring issue than having to postpone Becky vs Bayley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrodak Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 Rock got injured the last time he wrestled, why the hell would he put his film career on hold, potentially for much longer than the time required for training for one match if history repeats itself, to go roll around with Cousin Joe? I’d say he’s cooked as a movie star at this point, the dude has *never* had his Rambo or Terminator role and is getting up there, but there’s always a lag between a new paradigm manifesting and on-the-ground reality comporting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted January 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 Plus, he was *just* 40 when he had his 2nd match against Cena in which his body got fucked up. He's even bigger now, and 10 years older. There is zero upside for him in his situation. Also, we might come to terms that both Cena and Punk smoked that man on the mic back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 4 hours ago, SirEdger said: Seems also that WarnerBros Discovery has changed their stance and Mark will be allowed on AEW TV going forward. A shame that it took Jay's tragic death to change that. FWIW, Mark was never banned from WBD it was only Jay. Mark could have gone on TV (or to WWE for that matter) solo but he wouldn't without his brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, sek69 said: FWIW, Mark was never banned from WBD it was only Jay. Mark could have gone on TV (or to WWE for that matter) solo but he wouldn't without his brother. According to Meltzer, this isn't accurate. He said he asked directly if Mark could appear and was told no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 NXT kicking off with Indi vs bubba @KawadaSmile's favorite Tiffany Stratton (and her "upgrades"). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted January 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 She's SPECIAL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 That moonsault was NICE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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