Why Nominations? Did They Work?

[Hollinger.]

I tend to count Pancrase (and MMA in general) where it adds to a pro wrestlers case, but it’s not something that I count against them. There’s really not all that many places where it’s all that applicable… Suzuki, Funaki, Sakuraba, Shamrock, Severn if you really want to try to make a case for him. I see MMA as a point in favor for a Yuji Nagata, even if he got his shit rocked, just because he wore it like a champ and fought a couple killers. But something like the inverse, trying to make a case for a Mark Coleman or Kevin Randleman based on their MMA careers and some cameos in wrestling, I wouldn’t do. 

[Control21]

4 minutes ago, Hollinger. said:

I tend to count Pancrase (and MMA in general) where it adds to a pro wrestlers case, but it’s not something that I count against them. There’s really not all that many places where it’s all that applicable… Suzuki, Funaki, Sakuraba, Shamrock, Severn if you really want to try to make a case for him. I see MMA as a point in favor for a Yuji Nagata, even if he got his shit rocked, just because he wore it like a champ and fought a couple killers. But something like the inverse, trying to make a case for a Mark Coleman or Kevin Randleman based on their MMA careers and some cameos in wrestling, I wouldn’t do. 

Yeah, that's basically where I am too. 

[Mantaur Rodeo Clown]

I've read through this thread and still have no clear conception of what the benefits to the nomination process are, outside of gatekeeping. Judging from the activity on most nomination threads as Ell McKell has mentioned, it hasn't spurred discussion. I think we need to also be realistic about how big a barrier of entry it is to the discussion and to the project, particularly with how far in the future 2036 will be. The nomination process would have to be significantly improved from now. I also don't think we should be punishing people who only found out about the project when voting got underway, as it is natural that is the exact moment it would break through to the public. Nobody is going to be going on twitter saying "Here my GWE poll for 2036, remember voting opens seven years from now guys!"

Finally, the point that rankles me most is when I've read "well it's a non-issue, because [this wrestler who was not nominated] barely got any votes at all". That's a strange attitude to have, given there may well have been lots of voters who simply followed the rules and only voted for those who were nominated, even if they really liked BxB Hulk or Taz or whoever. You're essentially punishing people who can read instructions.