Tim Cooke Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Can anyone shed some light on John Muse? 04/30/01 WON - "Speaking of Bischoff, if he had been able to acquire WCW as was expected, besides Rob Van Dam and Don Callis, who have admitted being pretty close to deals but told to keep it quiet, I believe Joey Styles was also under consideration as an announcer and John Muse was going to be given the job of head booker of the cruiserweight division, which would have been kept largely seperate." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Can anyone shed some light on John Muse? 04/30/01 WON - "Speaking of Bischoff, if he had been able to acquire WCW as was expected, besides Rob Van Dam and Don Callis, who have admitted being pretty close to deals but told to keep it quiet, I believe Joey Styles was also under consideration as an announcer and John Muse was going to be given the job of head booker of the cruiserweight division, which would have been kept largely seperate." See this topic: http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbc...f=9;t=009660;p= He was also a writer for the Torch in the early 1990s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 I'd imagine Dave Meltzer recommended him for the role to Eric Bischoff personally, as this was during the time period where Bischoff was Dave's inevitably shortlived new best friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 I believe Muse broke into the business with Al Snow back in the day and booked Great Lakes Wrestling in the mid-late 90s. For a guy who was basically a mark entering the business, he was very well-liked. No doubt Meltz recommended him to Bischoff, but it's possible he wasn't the only one recommending him too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondocks Kernoodle Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Speaking of John Muse did anyone see the move The Muse with Albert Brooks and Sharon Stone??? Stone as the Muse was supposed to inspire Brooks to great creativity with his writing as I guess John Muse is doing with his creative booking ideas. Woof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Cooke Posted March 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 When did WCW move it's PPV to Sunday Night's on a permanent basis? Also, does anyone have a thorough recap of what the 1997 Apocolypse angle was supposed to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondocks Kernoodle Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 The last Saturday PPV was Road Wild '99. The last non-weekend WCW PPV was Starrcade '95, which aired on a Wednesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 I've always suspected that the Apocalypse rumor was something Scott Keith perpetuated and there was nothing to it, but I could be wrong about that. The idea of a Benoit/Eddy/Regal/Malenko main event faction in 1997 seems SKeithy more than it sounds like a WCW idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Everything I've read about the Apocalypse rumor is that it was something that was tossed around as an idea for like 2 seconds, and somehow (as in being repeated as fact in SKeith rants constantly) it became something that was set in stone only to be snatched away at the last second. Also, I'm watching Bash at the Beach 2000 on 24/7 and I think it's quite possibly the most WCW-ish show ever. You have Madden being annoying, bad Russo gimmicks, SHOOTING~!, highspot filled cruiserweight matches, and Tony being perplexed in ways Mike Tenay can only dream of being on Impact. And Norman Smiley. And RALPHUS. Really, you don't get more WCW than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 In Jericho's book he talks about Pillman in ECW having the idea he had been pitching to WCW, if he went back to WCW, of having a faction called The Horsemen of the Apocalypse or the Generation X Horsemen that would be Pillman, Eddy, Benoit, and Jericho. They'd have crossed their forearms in an "X" while doing the four fingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Everything I've read about the Apocalypse rumor is that it was something that was tossed around as an idea for like 2 seconds, and somehow (as in being repeated as fact in SKeith rants constantly) it became something that was set in stone only to be snatched away at the last second. Also, I'm watching Bash at the Beach 2000 on 24/7 and I think it's quite possibly the most WCW-ish show ever. You have Madden being annoying, bad Russo gimmicks, SHOOTING~!, highspot filled cruiserweight matches, and Tony being perplexed in ways Mike Tenay can only dream of being on Impact. And Norman Smiley. And RALPHUS. Really, you don't get more WCW than that. I can't believe you didn't mention the KISS Demon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Morris Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 The funny part about the KISS Demon was that he got pops for his entrance and mannerism, thanks to Dale Torborg being a huge KISS fan, and they jobbed him out purely to spite Gene Simmons and company for forcing WCW to live up to the terms of the deal he agreed to. Not that I think the Demon would have been a top draw at any point, but give him some midcard wins and he might have been somebody you can use to elevate people. Instead, it's the usual WCW shenanigans and then Russo returns to have Demon do goofy stuff with Vampiro and ICP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Yeah I was kind of lumping in the Demon with "bad Russo gimmicks" but he really does need a special mention. What killed me about that gimmick wasn't the typical WCW ass-backwardsness of making a deal then having to be forced to honor it, but was how they would constantly remind the viewers that it was just Dale Torborg: Random Dude in the Demon costume. They couldn't even let it stand as its own character. I always wondered, how much SHOOT~! was the Russo/Hogan deal? It seems like everyone was aware of the general idea but not that Russo would go as far in his promo as he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Morris Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Death of WCW covered it... I believe Hogan/Russo is as pretty much as you said: It was a work where Russo made comments that Hogan didn't approve and thus he wouldn't continue with the program and took Russo and WCW to court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysX_f6EoV5Q...feature=related Ha! Early 90s WCW cheesiness in all it's glory Madusa: "Missy you're doing what you do best...blowing... hot air. The whole thing is pretty risque for 1992 with all the sexual double talk. Meltzer said Missy starved herself for a month before the PPV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death From Above Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Meltzer said Missy starved herself for a month before the PPV ~COMMITMENT TO THE BIZ~ John Cena probably approves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broke Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 I recall some type of alliance being teased between Jarret, Wright and Guerrero after Jarrett got booted from the Horsemen. Was that being thought of or did i have too much beer on monday nights? Everything I've read about the Apocalypse rumor is that it was something that was tossed around as an idea for like 2 seconds, and somehow (as in being repeated as fact in SKeith rants constantly) it became something that was set in stone only to be snatched away at the last second. Also, I'm watching Bash at the Beach 2000 on 24/7 and I think it's quite possibly the most WCW-ish show ever. You have Madden being annoying, bad Russo gimmicks, SHOOTING~!, highspot filled cruiserweight matches, and Tony being perplexed in ways Mike Tenay can only dream of being on Impact. And Norman Smiley. And RALPHUS. Really, you don't get more WCW than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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