Gregor Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Thanks. Another one to file under "I Cannot Understand the Thought Processes of Vince McMahon." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Not to excuse him, but it's no surprise. Dude's a juvenile insecure guy who runs a company that is strongly rooted in high school level culture, who was drunk, and fucking around with his buddy Patterson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 I don't follow MMA media much but how big is Meltzer in the MMA media world? Seems weird for Dana to go after a guy that writes the Wrestling Observer. Wasn't Dave gone from Yahoo when he wrote what got Dana upset? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 I don't follow MMA media much but how big is Meltzer in the MMA media world? Seems weird for Dana to go after a guy that writes the Wrestling Observer. Wasn't Dave gone from Yahoo when he wrote what got Dana upset? That's a hard question to answer as MMA journalism hasn't really matured. If anything any Tom, Dick or Harry with a website or blog can get a press pass if they arent uber anti UFC. Â There is plenty of successful blog sites but the most popular traditional website to my reckoning at least is Sherdog. They regularly have Todd Martin on their podcasts who breaks down fights as a sports analyst would. Sporadically Dave is on Sherdog and is introduced as the" Dean" or "Professor" of MMA and is credited with being the first or the longest reigning journalist to cover the sport. The host usual pitches to Dave on history and business matters and only light pitches to him went it comes down to analysing and breaking down fights and fighters. Â Dave is VERY respected by MMA journalists and blogs but in my experience is still seen as "that Pro Wrestling guy?" by fans on Twitter at least. I really do think not being on Twitter/being a behind the paywall commodity hurts him greatly. Â Again this is from my experience blah, blah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm funk Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 Dave's been following and covering MMA since the start of UFC and even prior to that if you count UWF and Pancrase as common roots. He's always had his finger on the pulse of combat sports as an industry, boxing, PPV, etc. and understands the history that all of these things share.....  That's why I've always thought it's silly when people get on his case about blending coverage of MMA and wrestling and how he draws parallels between them.....they are two different forms of the same thing and have more in common than not, and Dave is as knowledgeable about the history of both as anyone out there  Dana White knows as well as anyone the type of knowledge Dave brings to the table, I remember when he was the fresh faced new promoter and sucking up to Meltzer, I remember him lavishing praise on Vince McMahon......Dana White isn't fooling anyone with his act. He's a carnival barking promoter, no different from McMahon or Don King or Paul Heyman or Hulk Hogan or Howard Stern or anyone else with a product to sell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 Dana White did an interview with Ariel Helwani where he accused Dave of being a mouthpiece for Spike and Bellator, being given UFC ratings numbers by them to write negative pieces in the Observer. We all know how crazy that is. I do have to admit to enjoying this a little bit after all of these years of hearing about how UFC is doing pro wrestling better than pro wrestling. This is really odd. Has Dave's rather harmless style of reporting gotten that far under the skin of Dana that he went back for a second bite at the apple? At this point, I don't think it's about what Dave wrote. He's attempting to get the MMA media to pick sides, rather than remain neutral in the upcoming promotional battle between UFC and Bellator. Dave is a good guy to pick on because he won't rise to the bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 I don't see why Dana's so concerned, Bellator seems like it will just be the TNA to UFC's WWE (in terms of audience, not necessarily product quality). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 --Just one note regarding the Dana White thing with Ariel Helwani on Thursday, when White talked about me saying UFC was a fad, in actuality in the article in question, the word "fad" was used once, in a sentence where I said that they've been popular too long to be considered a fad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 I am starting to think someone and likely someone here has put a hex on UFC: Â Arianny Celeste was arrested this morning for domestic violence Even the ring card girls are getting into trouble. UFC just seems to lurch from disaster to disaster. Â Irv Muchnik needs to a WCCW style expose on the UFC at this stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 I really don't like Arianny. Wish they'd bring back the cute one that didn't get renewed due to not getting along wiuth the pain in the ass Arianny. Â John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted May 27, 2012 Report Share Posted May 27, 2012 Watched the UFC PPV at work today, and seeing how much Joe Rogan with a shaved head looked like a Gillberg version of Dana was one of those "can't stop noticing once you notice it" deals for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted May 27, 2012 Report Share Posted May 27, 2012 OK, this thread sucks now. Just a bunch of bullshit navel-gazing about Dave and Dana. Seriously, who gives a fuck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted May 27, 2012 Report Share Posted May 27, 2012 OK, this thread sucks now. Just a bunch of bullshit navel-gazing about Dave and Dana. Seriously, who gives fuck? Â 1. Dana's spent the last few weeks trying to bait Dave into a flamewar and seems frustrated he isn't taking the bait. Â 2. Is there anything worse than the self appointed arbiter of what can and can't be discussed on message boards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted May 27, 2012 Report Share Posted May 27, 2012 Hey, I'm not your mom. If you think that what Dave had for breakfast this morning is a topic of great interest, knock yourself out. I just think that the current Dave/Dana brouhaha is too petty to warrant discussing in great detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted May 27, 2012 Report Share Posted May 27, 2012 I think the actual topic isn't the actual brouhaha, but how the face of a major sports enterprise is devoting large chunks of time to try to start a slappy fight with a reporter no one outside of the MMA/pro wres bubble would even know let alone care about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 OK, this thread sucks now. Just a bunch of bullshit navel-gazing about Dave and Dana. Seriously, who gives a fuck? Your post was the 2412th in the thread. Why don't you let us know how many of those have been about the current Dave-Dana issue? It would take 241 of them to reach a 1% threshold. Â John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert S Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 OK, this thread sucks now. Just a bunch of bullshit navel-gazing about Dave and Dana. Seriously, who gives a fuck? Your post was the 2412th in the thread. Why don't you let us know how many of those have been about the current Dave-Dana issue? It would take 241 of them to reach a 1% threshold.  John  241/2412 * 100 = ?And people are complaining about Dave's math. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted May 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 The numbers are in the top right hand corner of each response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert S Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 My calculation above should indicate that 241 posts out of 2412 are about 10% and not 1%... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Liska Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 Hey, I'm not your mom. If you think that what Dave had for breakfast this morning is a topic of great interest, knock yourself out. I just think that the current Dave/Dana brouhaha is too petty to warrant discussing in great detail. The public face of American MMA has now done several videos accusing Dave of being a mouthpiece for their competitor, questioning his credibility in front of thousands of viewers. Has the "Dave Meltzer Stuff" thread been so eventful that this is somehow not worth of a mention? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slickster Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Dave is a guest on KONNAN's MLW podcast. Hearing DAVE interact with an in-character K-Dogg is pretty funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slickster Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Wow, young DAVE would watch the local TV and would predict the attendance at the next house show. That's awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 My calculation above should indicate that 241 posts out of 2412 are about 10% and not 1%... Yes, my math was bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 And people are complaining about Dave's math. Is Dave's math bad? I certainly don't get that impression when listening to the podcast and he pulls some quick mental arithmetic when calculating, say, percentage changes. Bryan, on the other hand, seems to struggle with anything like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Yeah, Dave often pulls out numbers with Rain Man-eqsue speed while any time Bryan is faced with anything more complex with 2+2 he ends up sputtering DON'T MAKE ME DO MATH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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