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Oh well. I suspect she's probably not all that nice...

That is a fantastic idea! I would very much like to read your review of it along with the accompanying footage on youtube

How the heck does that guy think Stan Lane is Billy Gunn? lol

Well that's out the window because I'm about as broke as you can be. Maybe one day.

Although I was being sarcastic about that, thanks for the information.

Jeff Jarrett gave a short interview here:http://csrwrestling.com/one-on-one-with-jeff-jarrett and during the word association part at the end he's asked about Dixie Carter: Dixie Carter- “Great Family, Not Nice, a very nice lady.” RETRACTION! HE SAID A VERY NICE LADY! NOTHING TO SEE HERE, MOVE ALONG

Those matches were building more towards Cota vs. Latin Lover than Satanico/Lizmark. It's a shame Cota bailed before the hair match as the Cota/Lover feud was better than you'd expect. I went off on a tangent about 90s Cota the other day -- http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/blog/8/entry-448-vintage-negro-casas-of-the-day-12/ In a nutshell, I think he was better than people thought at the time, but not as good as the top rudos. I just watched the Cota/Silver King vs. Dandy/Casas match and thought it was a great rudo performance by Cota. The match wasn't all that good but I came out of it liking Mocho Cota even more than I did before. Just a great job at being a total prick to everyone in the match, including his own partner. Is the Mocho Cota vs. Negro Casas hair match out there anywhere?

Negro Casas/El Dandy v. Mocho Cota/Silver King (3.18.94) https://youtu.be/p3FeLtdBnk8 So we're off the DVD comp and into the youtube rabbit hole now. This comes from the very well stocked youtube channel of dataintcash. Mocho Cota doesn't even have enough fingers to do a proper handshake so I think we're safe here. Cota and Silver King aren't really getting along at all here, as Silver King kind of trash talks him about not starting the match and then they get into a bit of a shoving match once Cota eventually tags out. I am guessing this match is building towards a singles match between Cota & Negro Casas as that seems to be where the real issue is. Cota has Casas up in the fireman's carry position and then just dumps him over the top rope. I can't get over what a sleazy, scuzzy looking dude Mocho Cota is. Dandy is getting ready to bounce off the ropes to dive onto Silver King but Cota opens the ropes and Dandy spills to the outside. Can't remember seeing that in my lucha watching before although I'm sure it's not THAT infrequent. Cota puts some really nifty looking submission on Casas to end the first fall. We end up with Casas & Cota battling in the corner and Casas knees Cota in the thigh which Cota does his best to sell as a foul and the refs do a lot of "did he or didn't he?" with Casas & the crowd before eventually deciding to let it go. Mocho Cota winds up holding El Dandy for Silver King to hit but Silver King takes WAY too long to climb the top rope and ends up hitting Cota with the top rope dropkick after Dandy moves. Mocho Cota rolls out and starts bitching about how it's 3 on 1. And then he runs back to the locker room! Silver King holds his own against Dandy & Casas for a bit, including dropkicking Casas as he's up on the top rope and sending him to the outside. Mocho Cota comes back with his hand in his singlet and he's obviously got some kind of plastic knucks. He comes in and kidney punches Dandy with it and then lays out his own partner Silver King! Casas ducks Cota's punch, takes the knucks from and then blasts Cota and the stupid refs finally see it and DQ Casas. And that's the end of the match. Mocho Cota is busted open now and Negro Casas has had enough of his lecturing by the blind refs so he says "fuck it" and attacks Cota and just starts kicking him in the face. El Dandy holds one of the refs in the corner to let his partner continue beating on Cota and I'm loving this. Cota gets tossed into the front row and Casas just keeps kicking him in the face as he's laid out in one of the first row seats. Dandy continues to stop the refs from breaking it up, this time by pulling them both by their ears haha. Mocho Cota gets sent into the ringpost and he eats it like a champ. One of the refs is holding Cota from behind to keep him from getting back in the ring with Casas and then Casas hits him with a baseball slide sending the ref into the first row! Mocho Cota makes a lap around the ring continuing to complain about how this match was 3 on 1 before finally taking off for the locker room. This wasn't a very good match but it was a great performance by Mocho Cota and definitely made me want to see the eventual Casas/Cota singles match. This is definitely one for Mocho Cota fans to check out.

If I was in control I would had had Bossman/Tenta as the tag champs into of Shamrock/Bossman. Bossman & Tenta destroying everybody would had been awesome. If that means they never would have turned Shamrock heel then I'm all for it. I feel like Shamrock had a lot of upside that immediately disappeared when he joined The Corporation.

Tenta was only 35 in 1998 and hadn't been over exposed the way Hogan, Piper & Savage had. Plus he had the benefit of essentially being off TV for 2 years which would have made him somewhat fresh. He was too small to be Earthquake in 1998 though which is why when he did go back to WWF he ended up as the goofy Golga character. I don't think he would have been a good Austin opponent though.

Condrey deserves a real hard look. He's great every time I see him pop up, whether that's 70s Memphis teaming up with Phil Hickerson, the short lived Dr. D team that I didn't even know about until I watched some of a Dr. D. comp, his tag team with Randy Rose in Southeastern, obviously all the MX stuff but even after that he shows up in the dying days of Continental in 1989 and ends up having a run as the top heel and wins the CWF title.

Me too! That was a really fun undercard feud and it sucks that they pretty much quit using Tenta after it was over.

I don't think anyone here pimps him as a GREAT worker or anything, but he's one of those guys that the Scott Keith type of fan immediately writes off simply because he's fat. And of course all fat workers are slow and shitty and get blown up in 2 minutes and oh my god why aren't they working at 100 miles an hour and taking 50 bumps per match? Basically he became a victim of a very stupid mentality that doesn't hold up when you actually go back and watch the matches. If this board is known for anything as whole it is that people go back and watch the matches, which might explain why he would have more of a positive rep here than anywhere else. Because people are judging him based on his work and not some dumb ass Scott Keith rant. As far as Dave, I don't remember Meltzer heaping praise on him but he definitely wasn't one of the guys Meltzer went out of his way to shit on like a Dino Bravo or an Ultimate Warrior.

From everything I've ever heard/read the most popular storyline WWE ever had for female audiences was the HHH/Stephanie/Kurt Angle love triangle in 2000. It has soap opera elements but was also one of the best examples I can think of where WWE actually told a story well over a period of months and kept building it from a small little thing to something that would have been the top story in the company if HHH hadn't been such an insecure little bitch about it and nixed the ending.

El Dandy, Atlantis y Ringo Mendoza vs. Perro Aguayo, Kung Fu y El Satanico (EMLL 10/19/90) I was looking at the match listings for this comp and decided that this would surely be devoid of handshakes and sportsmanship and all the shit I don't want to see in my lucha. Perro Aguayo is going to kick you in the face not shake your hand so surely this match will find it's way into my good graces. Aguayo & Satanico on the same team can't possibly disappoint can it? Oh yea, this is definitely what I'm looking for. The rudo team is just the best here, running interference for each other with cheapshots from behind, being total smug assholes, Kung Fu trying to rip Atlantis' mask. The rudos win the first fall after being a bunch of cheating bastards and Aguayo hits some kind of piledriver type move during the finishing stretch that looked real nasty. The fans are throwing trash at Aguayo in between falls and that is definitely a sign that we're NOT in exhibition mode anymore. It looks like the rudos just kept kicking ass all through the commercial break in between falls because Atlantis now has half his mask totally ripped off and he's bleeding while Aguayo is kicking the shit out of Ringo outside the ring. It turns into 3 on 2 for a while with Atlantis still recovering outside the ring and the rudos pretty much dominate. Atlantis finally comes back but his fiery comeback doesn't last very long as Kung Fu goes to his eyes. Everything gets cleared away for the finish as Satanico hits a senton off the apron to the floor on El Dandy and Aguayo hits a dive on Ringo Mendoza that sends him into the 2nd row leaving just Atlantis & Kung Fu. Kung Fu doesn't take long in securing a submission victory for his team and the awesome team of rudos wins this in 2 straight. I am fairly certain this was building to an Atlantis vs. Kung Fu mask match. I enjoyed this a lot and absolutely LOVED the rudo trio here.

El Dandy, El Satanico y Emilio Charles Jr. vs. Atlantis, Javier Cruz y Angel Azteca (EMLL 5/11/90) Satanico or not, I think this is another damn babyface vs. babyface trios match. I'm gonna hold out hope that this is less of an exhibition though because although El Dandy & Atlantis shake hands before the match, Satanico & Angel Azteca are talking all kinds of shit to each other. Ok so even if this is an all babyface match they definitely work this with a lot more urgency and fire than the last 2 trios I watched. Satanico & Atlantis do some fun matwork and then worry me with a sign of respect afterwards but that doesn't last long as Dandy & Emilio Charles do a little cheating leading to Dandy's team winning the first fall in a somewhat abrupt fashion. Second fall is short and not all that good especially the Dandy/Atlantis exchanges that looked like they were working at half speed for some reason. Third fall starts with Satanico dropping Atlantis with 2 DDTs and then we get a weird cut and El Dandy is in the ring with Atlantis. Not sure what was up with that, doesn't seem like they usually do a lot of clipping in lucha TV matches. Everybody is kind of fired up now and we get some hot exchanges leading Satanico pinning Angel Azteca only to immediately get pinned by Atlantis. Atlantis rolls out leading to Dandy diving on Atlantis and then Emilio Charles and Javier Cruz wind up in a double pin situation and this match ends in a draw. Didn't care for that ending at all but this at least washed out the "we're all friends here!" bad taste of out of my mouth that I had from the past 2 trios. El Dandy & El Texano vs. Atlantis & Angel Azteca (EMLL 3/31/89) The only thing that impressed me about this match is that I didn't fall asleep during it. More exhibition style "hey let's shake hands and be buddies" bullshit. The 3rd fall was interesting with Atlantis getting "injured" and Angel Azteca being left to go it alone. But he just ends up pinning Dandy pretty quick and then wrestling Texano a few minutes before pinning him too. Where have all the rudos gone!?

EDIT:Retraction.

If you are arguing that Kane is a good enough worker to be in the HOF I don't think you're going to have a problem watching Dick Murdoch or Jerry Blackwell matches. It seems like you think that you wouldn't enjoy any of it and would simply be trying to determine if it was good then because it couldn't possibly still be good now. Don't fall for the "everything is a constant evolution and thus everything today is way better than it was 20 years ago" myth.

I tried to do this at one point El-P but I tapped out around Week 10 or 11. There are a few bright spots but it's really not worth it. Outside of the X Division matches, my favorite match from what I saw was some kind of hardcore match between Malice and Don (Ron?) Harris. It was actually a really fun brawl, it's too bad about what happened to Malice because I liked him from what I saw of him in early TNA.

I'm not sure why you feel that way though. I'm 29, I didn't watch any Bill Dundee or Ken Patera matches at the time that they happened. I can watch a match from before I was born and be just as objective about a match from 1980 as I can a match from the last WWE PPV.

El Dandy, Super Muneco y Texano vs. Atlantis, Blue Demon Jr y Angel Azteca (EMLL 3/24/89) UGH. This is a 30 minute all babyface trios match. I found it to be a real chore, the whole first 15 minutes is pretty much just two guys mat wrestling, exchanging moves & counters until they do a faceoff, shake hands and tag out. Fuck that noise. The highlights of this were the end of the 2nd fall where Angel Azteca hits an awesome top rope dropkick and Texano's matwork throughout. But I really do not want to ever see another all babyface trios match in my life. I'm skipping ahead a bit to something with Satanico to wash all this exhibition style, hand shakey bullshit out of my mouth.

This part I definitely agree with. I think people go way overboard in their dislike of Kane. No, he doesn't consistently put on great matches every week but his matches are never outright BAD imo. They are usually just mediocre. When they actually give Kane an important match I feel like he delivers a much better performance than when he's in a pointless 5 minute Raw match. I don't think he's being under sold as a HOF candidate though.

World Class had the highest number of female fans of any promotion I've seen. It seemed to be at least a 40/60 female to male ratio at the peak if not more.

Destination America is not renewing TNA Wrestling next year. While the ratings were strong, the audience was not large enough to justify the program investment. We plan to honor the current contract and continue to air original episodes of TNA Wrestling on Friday nights through the end of the third quarter 2015. When the up-front rate card is released, the Friday night anthology title will now be called ‘American Tales,’ which will be a combination of Paranormal and Americana programming. I hope this is good news given all of the advertisers that included TNA on their DNA [Do Not Advertise] list.