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Southwest Championship Wrestling 1983 - The continuation
goc replied to goc's topic in Armchair Booking
With two big recent departures and a few new arrivals into the territory, decided to do a new roster update: Southwest Heavyweight Champion: Mr. Saito Southwest Tag Team Champions: The Fabulous Ones (Stan Lane & Steve Keirn) Southwest Television Champion: Mike Masters Referees: Jack Howe & Carl Fergie Managers: Sunshine & 'Gentleman' Jim Holliday The Fabulous Ones (Stan Lane & Steve Keirn) 'Hacksaw' Jim Duggan (injured) David Von Erich Mr Saito Eddie Gilbert Ken Lucas Vic Rain (formerly Assassin #2) El Gran Apollo 'Sheik' Ron Starr Roy Lee Welch Steve Pardee Larry Hamilton Mike Jackson Mike Masters Tiny Anderson Tony Torres Man Mountain Link 'Diamond' Timothy Flowers Ron Sexton Pat Rose Goldie Rogers El Bracero The Grapplers (Len Denton & Tony Anthony) Tiger Conway Jr. Masao Ito TV Jobbers: Snake Brown Paul Peller Jimmy Doo Mike Fever Tug Taylor Ken Johnson Recent departures: Tully Blanchard, The Assassin -
McGregor gets paid 7 figures per fight so on a per performance basis he's so far away from any active wrestler that it's really not worth going there. The better way to talk shit on McGregor would be to point out the WWE wrestlers travel all the time including frequent tours of other countries while Connor McGregor had a bitch fit about having to travel to a press conference for UFC's biggest event ever when he gets paid 7 figures per fight.
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Southwest Championship Wrestling 1983 - The continuation
goc replied to goc's topic in Armchair Booking
Can't ever make things too easy for the babyfaces in a weekly territory. As for Loser Leaves Texas match, I'm guessing most people would have thought the idea was to write David out before his unfortunate death. But I've been trying to write like I don't know future events so it made a lot more sense for David to win after all the shit he went through in the feud. Plus Tully had been around Southwest FOREVER and could benefit from leaving for a bit while David as a babyface was still pretty fresh and a logical contender for the Southwest Title after how he won and lost it in the same night. -
Southwest Championship Wrestling 1983 - The continuation
goc replied to goc's topic in Armchair Booking
Southwest Championship Wrestling @ San Antonio, TX - The HemisFair Arena 1/29/84 'The Canadian Wildcat' Vic Rain vs. El Bracero - Vic Rain tried to charge at Bracero with a Running Boot as soon as the bell rang but Bracero rolled under the boot. Rain tried to grab Bracero but Bracero kept using cat and mouse tactics to stay out of the larger man's reach. Vic Rain charged at Bracero again and this time Bracero monkey flipped him over. Bracero grabbed Rain's arm as he was getting up and started a rapid series of arm wrenches until Vic Rain managed to get himself into the ropes to break the hold. Rain went for a punch on Bracero as the hold was being broken up but Bracero arm dragged him over. Bracero tried to grab Rain's arm as he was getting up again but Vic Rain shoved him off and as Bracero went down he did a backwards roll to create space. As Bracero was getting back up however, vic Rain came charging in with the Running Boot and nearly took his head off! Vic Rain then covered El Bracero and got the 3 count to win the match. Winner: Vic Rain in 6:10 after a Running Boot The Grapplers vs. Mike Jackson & Tony Torres - The Grapplers did not receive a warm welcome in their return to the HemisFair Arena after a long abscence. The Grapplers just totally dominated the match with the team of Mike Jackson and Tony Torres unable to really mount any offense against them. After a few minutes of working over Mike Jackson, Grappler #1 tagged in his partner and then Grappler #1 held Mike Jackson in an inverted atomic drop position while Grappler #2 came off the 2nd rope and hit Mike Jackson with a clothesline and then pinned him to win the match in dominant fashion. Winners: The Grapplers in 5:33 after Grappler #2 hit Mike Jackson with a clothesline off the middle rope After the two teams in the previous match left the ring, Ken Lucas came out and got on the house mic. He said he'd heard that Eddie Gilbert was back in town and that meant he was probably in the arena. Ken Lucas challenged Eddie Gilbert to come down to the ring and fight him but Eddie never came out. Ken Lucas counted to 10 and declared himself winner by forfeit due to Eddie being too much of a coward to fight him when he was ready for it. Ken Lucas then got out of the ring and started walking back to the locker room when suddenly Eddie Gilbert hopped over the guard rail and attacked him from behind! Eddie Gilbert slammed Lucas' head off the guardrail and then put him in position to hit a Piledriver on the floor of the HemisFair Arena! Gilbert started to lift Ken Lucas up but Lucas fought hard to prevent himself from being lifted and then back dropped Eddie off of him! Lucas was all over Eddie as he tried to get back up, just hammering him with punches when suddenly half the locker room emptied and pulled him off. Eddie Gilbert stood up and saw Lucas struggling to get away from the wrestlers holding him back so Gilbert took one last cheap shot at Ken Lucas and then ran away. Ken Lucas wanted to give chase but he was held back by Steve Pardee, Larry Hamilton and others. Southwest Television Title: Tiger Conway Jr. vs. Mike Masters w/Jim Holliday - Tiger Conway Jr. tried to go right after Masters at the start but Masters stuck to his usual strategy as champion and tried to stall and stay close to the ropes to make sure Tiger couldn't get to him. Tiger Conway Jr. got tired of chasing after Masters and went to the middle of the ring and signaled for a test of strength. Masters laughed at the idea of the smaller Tiger Conway being able to beat him in a test of strength and took the bait after flexing in Conway's face. The two men locked hands but instead of a test of strength, Conway pulled Masters into a monkey flip and held on to him which put Tiger Conway Jr. on top of Masters in a pinning position. Masters got his shoulder up before the count of 3 and Conway let go of one arm but only to but an arm bar on the other. Tiger Conway maintained control of the arm bar for a bit before Masters was able to get back to his feet and get into the ropes. Masters quickly ducked out of the ring after the hold was broken and went to Jim Holliday for a strategy session. Tiger Conway snuck out of the ring and came up behind Masters and Jim Holliday and smashed their heads together, much to the approval of the HemisFair crowd and then rolled Masters back into the ring. Tiger Conway Jr. started back up to the apron but Jim Holliday knocked his feet from under him and Conway fell hard on the apron and then down to the floor. Masters kept the referee's back turned while Holliday put the boots to Conway on the outside. The referee turned around and started the count on Tiger Conway but Conway was able to get back in the ring at the count of 7 only to quickly be attacked by Mike Masters. Masters picked Conway up and bodyslammed him and then dropped a big leaping elbow drop on him and went for a pin but only got a 2 count. Masters then picked Conway up and slammed him again but this time when he went for the big elbow drop, Conway rolled out of the way. The ring announcer announced only a minute left in the match as both men started back to their feet. Masters got up first and got around behind Conway and tried to put the Full Nelson on him. Conway tried hard to fight off the Full Nelson and Masters remained determined to get it locked in until Conway was finally able to drop down out of it and then kick his feet up at Masters which knocked Masters back into the corner. As Conway got back up, Masters went charging at him but Conway leap frogged him and Masters went crashing into the opposite corner and then fall backwards onto the mat. Tiger Conway Jr. quickly climbed up to the middle rope and connected with his Diving Headbutt on Mike Masters just as Masters got back to his feet! Tiger Conway Jr. started to go for the cover when suddenly the bell rang and the match was declared a time limit draw. Result: Time Limit Draw in 10 mins 'Sheik' Ron Starr vs. Roy Lee Welch - Ron Starr came to the ring with 2 veiled women who left the ringside area after his entrance. Roy Lee Welch came out second and immediately charged the ring and attacked Ron Starr before the bell even rang. Jack Howe called for the bell to be rung to start the match with both men down on the mat fighting with each other. Ron Starr was able to get out from under Roy Lee Welch and roll out of the ring to get away but Welch was hot on his heels and went out after him. The two men started brawling at ringside and Welch slammed Starr's head off the guardrail and then rolled him back in the ring. Welch climbed up on the apron and started to come through the ropes back into the ring when Ron Starr came charging at him and hit him with a big knee lift that knocked Roy Lee Welch back through the ropes where he landed hard on the floor of the HemisFair Arena. Referee Carl Fergie started the count on Welch who was just able to get back up to the apron at the count of 8 but Starr came charging into him and knocked him back down to the floor which broke the count. When Roy Lee Welch got back up on the apron again, Ron Starr hit him with a knee to the gut and then suplexed him over the ropes and back into the ring. Starr went for a cover but Welch kicked out at 2. Starr put Welch into a chin lock and maintained control for a bit before the crowd helped will Welch back onto his feet. Welch started trying to elbow his way out of the hold but Starr pulled on Welch's tights to get him back down on the mat and kept the chin lock on him. Welch fought back to his feet again and this time managed to shove Ron Starr off into the ropes and then dropped down to let Starr go over him and as Starr came back off the other side, Welch hit him with a big drop kick that took Ron Starr off his feet. Welch tried to grab a hold of Starr's leg and put him in the Spinning Toe Hold but Starr quickly scooted himself towards the ropes and got a break. Welch tried to keep coming at Ron Starr but Starr stayed in the ropes so Jack Howe got in between them and started to move Welch back which allowed Ron Starr the chance to hit Roy Lee with a cheap shot. Starr then grabbed Welch by the hair and slammed him head first into the turnbuckle then whipped him across the ring into the other corner. Starr went running in after him with a clothesline but Welch ducked out of the way and then rolled Ron Starr up after Starr went crashing into the corner but 'Sheik' Ron Starr was able to kick out before the count of 3. Welch tried again to get Ron Starr into the Spinning Toe Hold and almost had it in when Ron Starr started kicking Welch hard in the gut with his free leg. Welch stumbled backwards doubled over and Ron Starr quickly got back to his feet and came charging at Roy Lee Welch and connected hard with a Running Knee Lift that dropped Welch hard to the mat. Starr quickly went for the cover and Jack Howe made the 3 count, declaring the 'Sheik' Ron Starr the winner of the match. Winner: 'Sheik' Ron Starr in 11:49 after a Running Knee Lift No Disqualification, Southwest Heavyweight Title: El Gran Apollo vs. Mr. Saito - This match took place under No DQ rules but since it was not a Street Fight or Texas Death Match, falls only counted in the ring and the referee still tried to maintain some sense of order. Mr. Saito and El Gran Apollo went right for each other at the sound of the bell and started exchanging forearms and chops. El Gran Apollo was getting the better of the striking battle so Saito chopped him in the throat and then started choking him. Referee Carl Fergie tried to stop Saito from choking Apollo but Saito just ignored him and kept on choking him until Apollo broke out of it with some punches to Saito's nose. The two went back to exchanging strikes until Apollo knocked Saito off his feet with a forearm and then as Saito quickly got back up, Apollo followed up with a dropkick that put Saito back down. Saito then rolled out of the ring to get away but Apollo dove out through the ropes on top of him! Apollo started kicking Saito's ass on the outside, hitting him with forearms, punches and slamming Saito's head off of the apron and then the wooden steps. Apollo rolled Saito back in the ring and then climbed up to the top rope. As Saito started back to his feet, he went into his tights for something and as Apollo started to come off with the Top Rope Crossbody, Saito threw salt into his eyes! Apollo only managed to get a glancing blow with the Top Rope Crossbody and Saito was quickly back on his feet while Apollo was down on the mat clutching at his face. Saito started raining down hard chops and stomps on Apollo as he was on the mat and then put Apollo in a nerve hold. Saito kept the nerve hold on for a long while as Apollo still seemed to be struggling to regain his vision. Finally Apollo started to make his way back up off the mat and fight out of the nerve hold but Saito grabbed Apollo's hair to yank him back down. Carl Fergie argued with Saito about pulling the hair but Saito just laughed at him. Saito kept digging in with the nerve hold while Apollo got back up to his feet again and this time lurched forward and got into the ropes. Carl Fergie tried to get Saito to break the hold but Saito refused to break, arguing that it's no disqualification. Saito got a little distracted by his argument with Carl Fergie which allowed Apollo to break the grip of the nerve hold and dump Mr. Saito over the top rope! Saito landed hard on the outside and while Saito was down on the floor of the HemisFair Arena, Apollo tried to recover from the salt in his eyes and the pain of the nerve hold. As Saito started back to his feet, Apollo climbed to the top rope and came flying down on Mr. Saito with a double axehandle to the floor. Both men stayed were down on the concrete floor for a bit but Apollo got back up first and rolled Saito back into the ring again. Apollo started climbing the top rope again but Saito got up too quickly and managed to catch Apollo as he was just getting up to the top rope and Saito slammed Apollo down off the top rope into the middle of the ring! Saito quickly tried to make a cover but Apollo kicked out at 2. Saito then started to try and put his kneeling figure four on Apollo but Apollo managed to fight him off and scramble back to his feet. Saito and Apollo then engaged in another battle of chops vs. forearms with Apollo getting the better of it once again and dropping Saito with a hard forearm. Apollo bounced off the ropes and went for a clothesline but Saito ducked under and grabbed Apollo by the waist and set him up for the Saito Suplex but Apollo squirmed and struggled and broke out of it with knees to Saito's face. Saito came charging back at Apollo only to eat a big dropkick and then another as he got back to his feet. Apollo got around behind Mr. Saito as he got back up again and hit him with a big release German suplex! Apollo then climbed up to the top rope and looked to be about to come off with the Top Rope Crossbody as Saito slowly made his way back up but suddenly Masao Ito ran down to the ring and shoved Apollo off the top rope! Saito pulled Apollo up off the mat and dropped him on his head with a big Saito Suplex and then pinned him to win the match. Winner and STILL Southwest Heavyweight Champion: Mr. Saito in 12:56 with a Saito Suplex, following interference from Masao Ito Southwest Team Titles: Pat Rose & Ron Sexton vs. The Fabulous Ones - The Fabulous Ones dominated the early going of the match, with Pat Rose and Ron Sexton looking like pinballs being bounced around by Stan and Steve. Finally the team of Rose & Sexton were able to gain an advantage when Sexton distracted the referee to allow Pat Rose to hit a low blow on Steve Keirn. Rose and Sexton got Steve Keirn into their corner and worked him over for a bit before Steve Keirn was able to fight his way out of the corner and make the tag to Stan Lane! All four men ended up in the ring and The Fabs whipped Rose & Sexton into each other and then Stan Lane hit a Russian Legsweep on Ron Sexton and pinned him to win the match. Winners and STILL Southwest Tag Team Champions: The Fabulous Ones in 8:18 when Stan Lane pinned Ron Sexton following a Russian Legsweep Loser Leaves Texas Death Match inside a Steel Cage: David Von Erich vs. Tully Blanchard w/Sunshine - David came out first and just as he got to the end of the entrance way he got jumped from behind by Tully Blanchard. Tully rammed David's head into the cage a few times and then started grinding it into the mesh, turning David into a bloody mess before the match even officially started. Tully whipped David into the wooden ring steps and then dragged him up them by his hair and threw him inside the cage. Once both men got inside the cage, Carl Fergie got inside and called for the bell while Jack Howe stayed outside the ring and locked the cage door. Tully stayed focused on the cut on David's head, punching and biting at it. Tully then grabbed David by the hair and threw him into the side of the cage. As David started struggling back to his feet, Tully grabbed him and hit the Slingshot Suplex on him and pinned him to win the first fall. Carl Fergie started the 10 count on David as Tully mouthed off to the crowd, bragging about how easy it was going to be to send David Von Erich out of Texas. A bloody David Von Erich got back to his feet at the count of 6 however and Tully immediately grabbed him by the hair and threw him into the cage again. Tully climbed up to the 2nd rope and came off with an knee drop and pinned David Von Erich to win the second fall. Tully and Sunshine blew kisses at each other while Carl Fergie started another 10 count on David Von Erich but David got up at the count of 7 and Tully quickly went back to work on him. Tully grabbed David by the hair and started grinding his face into the mesh of the cage while Sunshine pointed and laughed at him from the outside. Tully threw David down on the mat and started trash talking him, kicking him back down every time David started to get back to his feet. Tully kicked David hard in the ribs which flipped David over onto his back and Tully then tried to pin David with one foot on his chest but David kicked out before the count of 3! Tully got enraged at David kicking out and started stomping on him but David managed to grab Tully's foot on one of the stomps and pull him off his feet. David quickly crawled on top of Tully and started pounding on him but Tully reached up and started digging his fingers into the cut on David's forehead which stopped David in his tracks and allowed Tully to then push David off of him. Tully grabbed David and started to run him into the cage again but David put his hands up and held onto the cage and blocked Tully from slamming his head against it. Tully buried a knee in David's ribs to break David's grip on the cage and then rammed David's head against the cage. David fell backwards onto the mat and Tully dropped a knee on his David's throat and covered him to win the third fall. Tully walked around the ring shouting about how the Yellow Rose had been plucked as Carl Fergie made the 10 count but David staggered back up to his feet at the count of 8. Tully charged at David for a clothesline but David sidestepped and grabbed a hold of Tully and launched him into the cage. David fell to his knees and tried to wipe the blood out of his eyes while Tully was getting back to his feet. David and Tully got up at the same time and started exchanging punches and David looked to have Tully wobbly when Tully suddenly hit David in the stomach with a knee and as David doubled over, Tully picked David up and body slammed him and then covered him to win the fourth fall. Tully stood over David and shouted at him to stay down as Carl Fergie started his 10 count. David started to get back to his feet after the 8 count was made and Tully immediately attacked him before he was all the way up which broke the count. Tully mounted David and just started raining punches down on him when David suddenly reached up and grabbed Tully's head with the Iron Claw! Tully used both hands to try to pry David's grip loose but couldn't do it and then suddenly Tully slammed his head down and headbutted David hard which caused David to break the Claw. Tully rolled off of David, got back to his feet and looked to drop an elbow on David but David rolled out of the way! Both men started to get back to their feet at the same time but Tully was up first and he kicked David in the face to knock him back down. Tully pulled David back up and got him in position for the Slingshot Suplex but David managed to reversed it and he suplexed Tully into the cage and Tully fell down awkwardly in between the cage and the ropes. As both men were down the fans started to wildly cheer David, sensing that David had finally gotten a chance to get back into the match. David got up just as Tully was trying to pull himself back up and David charged into Tully, slamming Tully backwards into the cage. Tully was caught between the ropes and the cage and David just kept pulling Tully forward into the ropes and letting the ropes fling Tully backwards into the cage. David then turned Tully around and started grinding Tully's face against the cage which caused Tully to get cut up and start bleeding. David grabbed Tully by the hair and ran him down the apron and into the ring post then finally pulled Tully back over the ropes and into the ring. Tully tried to beg off from David but David just kicked him in the face which sent Tully back down to the mat. As Tully got back to his feet David slapped the Iron Claw on him but Tully quickly got out of the hold by kicking David Von Erich in the groin. David went down to the mat and Tully fell on top of him and pinned him to win the fifth fall. Tully and David both laid on the mat while Carl Fergie started the 10 count but Tully got back up at the count of 6 and backed himself into the corner and watched as David started to stir and fight his way back up. Carl Fergie counted 9 and was just about to make the 10 count when David got all the way back up to both feet. Tully went charging at David but David caught him coming in and put him in a sleeper hold! David held onto the sleeper hold until Tully started fading but then just as Tully looked to be about to go out he charged backwards into the corner, slamming David's back against the turnbuckles. David held on but Tully slammed himself backwards again and again until he finally broke free of the sleeper. David slumped down in the corner and a dazed Tully turned around and started kicking at him. Tully then pulled David out of the corner and whipped him into the ropes and went for a back body drop but David leap frogged over Tully and came back with a big high knee that took Tully down. Both men stayed down on the mat, exhausted and bleeding until they both started getting back up at the same time. The two of them staggered towards each other and started exchanging punches with neither man having much left in the tank. Tully went for a kick but David grabbed his foot and spun him around and as Tully came back around David put him in the Iron Claw! David put every bit of strength he had left into the Iron Claw and Tully tried to get out of it by kicking David in the groin again but this time David knew it was coming and blocked it! Tully started to fade as Sunshine went crazy outside the ring. Sunshine demanded that Jack Howe open the cage door and when he refused, Sunshine hit him in the head with her loaded purse and stole the key from him! Sunshine unlocked the door and started to come into the cage with her loaded purse when David turned and saw her coming in. David shoved Tully forward into her and she fell hard off the apron onto the floor. Tully landed with his head in the doorway of the cage and David grabbed the door and slammed it hard on Tully's head! David then covered Tully and pinned him to win the sixth fall. Carl Fergie started the count of 10 as David used the ropes to hold himself up and watched Carl Fergie make the count. Tully laid completely motionless in the ring as Carl Fergie finished the 10 count and declared David Von Erich the winner of the match! Winner: David Von Erich in 17:22 after David slammed Tully's head in the cage door After the match a bloody David Von Erich celebrated at ringside while Sunshine cried over an unconscious Tully Blanchard. Eventually a stretcher came down to ringside and Tully had to be carried out of the arena with Sunshine crying at his side. -
Definitely looking forward to this one. Butch Reed is one of those guys that doesn't really get credit for how great he was since his best work came in Mid-South and not in WWF or WCW. At least the Mid-South 80s set helped to raise his profile because before that I'd never even really heard him talked about outside of the Doom tag team.
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Watched the Jack Brisco vs. Spoiler match this morning and liked it a bunch. Both those guys are really good at working holds and keeping things interesting. The only thing I didn't like is how little Gary Hart sold for Jack Brisco but that's just Gary Hart's usual shit. This might actually be the first full non-clipped singles match I've ever seen Jack Brisco in and I really want to see more. Really good at working from underneath, having a ton of fire and a great seller.
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So...I went to an Indy show headlined by Tatanka tonight.....
goc replied to Blehschmidt's topic in Pro Wrestling
I think even Randy the Ram would have had more dignity than to start a "You still got it" chant for himself. -
I don't think any of these statements are really true when you scrutinize them. The fans in the AWA territory loved Crusher, Bruiser, Mad Dog etc. so why dump those guys when they were still drawing? AWA was a successful territory long before Hogan. It still had some successes after Hogan left. The "didn't change with the times" thing is something people usually seem to make based on talent but the AWA pushed young talent after Hogan left. Verne made Rick Martel his champ, he made The Road Warriors one of his top acts, pushed Curt Hennig really hard and brought in a young hot team like The Fabulous Ones to challenge The Road Warriors. He also turned Jerry Blackwell babyface and gave him a big push that was drawing money. It's not like Blackwell was your typical top babyface act. It was a pretty creative, out of the box idea for a guy who gets crap for being stuck in the past. Unfortunately Blackwell's health was failing by that point so AWA lost one of their last big drawing acts. There was only so much AWA could do to bring in promising young talent when the WWF was always going to be able to swoop in and steal them. Not to mention how WWF was trying to steal away AWA's arenas and timeslots. The fact that the AWA died has far more to do with WWF playing dirty against them than it does with Verne being "an old man who refused to change." Not saying Verne didn't make mistakes because he did. Stuff like trying to force Hansen to drop the belt which led to Hansen leaving and then just handing the belt to Bockwinkel, not great decisions. But he was also limited in what good young talent he could get to actually stick around.
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So you're just going to ignore that they both had facial hair too? Typical anti-smark BS
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I've never given a shit whether a wrestler (or any athlete) wants to do steroids or not. It at least lets me avoid the hypocrisy of using steroid use to bash wrestlers I don't like while ignoring use in wrestlers I'm a fan of.
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Heavy shots from a guy who hasn't had an original opinion since before I was born. But you see GOTNW big wrestlers with muscles are bad and references to their steroid use must be made as often as possible. Now if they are a smaller wrestler with muscles like a Neville, Rollins or Prince Puma and able to do flippy doos then their steroid use must be completely ignored.
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I have no idea where he goes from here if he stays in wrestling. He's not a fit for the big name indies like RoH, EVOLVE, PWG, etc. I don't know if TNA has the money to pay him. TNA might be the best fit for him though because it'd let him work somewhere where he could cut promos and be a character which he's really good at in the right role. The 'Bully' Ryback skits where he was picking on random people backstage was one of my favorite WWE things over the past few years. Maybe he could go to New Japan and I think he'd probably be way better there than the average 'smart' fan would expect him to. He's better in the ring than he gets credit for.
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I think perhaps the biggest thing you can give Russo credit for in turning things around for the WWF is that he helped convince Vince to not just ignore the Screwjob on TV which then led to Vince becoming the biggest heel of the Attitude Era.
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Your most "Against The Grain" opinion on wrestling
goc replied to JaymeFuture's topic in Pro Wrestling
This made me think that I do have an against the grain opinion and it's that Mil Mascaras is pretty good and not even close to as bad as the prevailing opinion makes him out to be. I think most of the "Mascaras sucks" stuff mostly just comes from people parroting old wrestlers like Mick Foley who are mad that Mascaras didn't give them much when they wrestled him. The footage of him in Houston from NWA On Demand is way more good than bad. I haven't seen a lot of his stuff from Japan but the Tenryu match is awesome and so are the matches against The Destroyer. -
Hyperthetical: you find Vince's personal diary dating back to 1983
goc replied to Sidebottom's topic in Pro Wrestling
The day he went to Bret Hart and told him he wanted out of their 20 year contract and told him to negotiate with WCW. I'd just like to know his mindset for why he wanted out of the contract, whether it was that the company was really in dire straits financially, whether he thought that kind of deal set a bad precedent for the rest of the talent or whether he'd just decided that Bret wasn't worth it. No real set date for this one but I wouldn't mind seeing some entries about the XFL just to see why he thought that idea would really work considering the long history of failures in starting up a 2nd American football league. -
I watched this because it had 3 guys I really like (and Darsow) but it didn't do a whole lot for me. Thought the thing with Jose picking up Khruschev for a bodyslam and hitting Hector looked pretty weak . This made up for the disappointment of the tag match. This is the first singles match between these 2 after the turn in the tag match and they don't waste any time getting right into the hate. Just an awesome brawl and it can't be said enough just how good Jose's punches are. The enforcement of the rules is a little wonky with Jose getting away with 2 chairshots inside the ring in full view of the referee but it doesn't really take away from the match. A really nice set up for the Mexican Death Match.
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I like the Southern Boys team of Smothers and Travis although I have never been able to buy Billy Joe Travis as a babyface. That could just be the fact that I'm more familiar with him in the early 90s when he was at his most hateable. He probably would have been better around this time period and I know his babyface tag team with Jeff Jarrett in the late 80s was pretty well regarded. A new purse for Sunshine? Who knows what she's going to put inside that thing, hopefully not anymore bricks.
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Trust me, I'm the last person you need to sell on watching Lothario matches. The man finished in my top 75 for GWE. I just wish we had some stuff of him from like the early 70s. He's so good as an obviously past his physical prime old guy that I'd love to see what he was like when he still had all his tools.
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Thanks for the recommendations. I saw the Gordy/Doc match the last time I had a sub but everything else is on my watch list. Good to know that the Lothario/Conway tag match is something you liked because it was something that stood out to me when I was surfing around the site to see all the stuff that's been uploaded over the past 4-5 months.
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With all the matches I haven't seen yet, I can't explain why I decided to re-watch Tully vs. El Bracero. But man that might be one of the most fun matches I have ever seen. Some young wrestler out there really needs to watch that match and completely steal El Bracero's act because I think it could get over big today.
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Your most "Against The Grain" opinion on wrestling
goc replied to JaymeFuture's topic in Pro Wrestling
This feels weird coming from you since you seemed to shit on Tiger Mask as much as anyone in your reviews of his matches from the NJ 80s set. -
Wifi here at the motel went to shit over the past 2 days so haven't been able to really watch anything. I did see that a new Apollo match just got uploaded today which I can only assume was Bruce's welcome back present to me. Looking forward to watching that Tito Santanta/Apollo/Ken Lucas vs. Duggan/Sweetan/Mike Boyer match as soon as I get a halfway decent connection.
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Southwest Championship Wrestling 1983 - The continuation
goc replied to goc's topic in Armchair Booking
Ron Starr is actually a pretty darn good wrestler but I don't think I would have done much with him if this awesome picture of Great Mephisto hadn't given me the idea of having a wrestler get corrupted by Sheik Adnan with the promise of a harem. That was my plan for Ron Starr since his first appearance in Southwest. As far as lead babyfaces go, my top babyface act has always been The Fabs. They are the act that in my head I've been relying on to sell tickets even though they aren't always in the last match on the cards. And Duggan can still be the top singles babyface even if he's not directly in the title hunt. The funny thing about him in Mid-South is that after JYD left he was pretty much always the top singles babyface until he left for WWF but he was very rarely wrestling for the North American Title.