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John and I have been talking wrestling for years. He was kind of enough to slum with me in the WWF starting about 7 years ago. JDW was an All-Japan guy.Though I'm not pegging him as that. He's seen a lot of good/bad/shitty wrestling over the years. We do agree on a lot of stuff in wrestling and enjoy real sports. Though now we will disagree on stuff from time to time. I have said to him recently that I wish you'd watch the footage more recently than 3 years ago. Opinions change, evolve etc.

When Meltzer talks history he really is at his best. Which he claims in the interview we can thank Paul Boesch about.

1. I agree. I used Meltzer as a reference as opposed to you who spoke for Pat. Though I agree Pat probably does think Stevens is better than him. 2. I agree the Destroyer is better, but Pat isn't far off the mark. 3. We agree he has a great wrestling mind. 4. I wasn't talking about those matches, but clearly the matches Pat was in he had his fingertips all over the match. 5. Top 2 or 3 might be overstating it. I can see him in the top 10 70 's style worker . 6. I think Bob's great matches usually go in the 20-30 minutes. Shocking the great Patterson / Backlund match goes 28.

Then we are going to disagree on these points. At this point Pat is past his athletic prime , but still had enough in his tank. Though his mind was sharp as a whip. He really brought the structure and the match layout in the matches like Patera, Slaughter, Backlund , and Dibiase. I think you're really underselling Pat. Meltzer on the Austin pod rattled off 15 names of great workers and Pat was on it. To me on the match ups you mention Pat was step to step with those guys. In the matches that you didn't like with Bob to me it was the time constraints that kept them from reaching their potential . Not Pat Patterson.Then again I reccomended people watch the footage and draw their own conclusions. That is what this board is about.

I will say John since I've watched a good bit of WWF in 79. Pat is in the running for MVP. I feel he was the best promo as a wrestler in the company in 79. Miles ahead of Bob. Pat had 3 really strong matches against Dibiase, and one that was solid, but was hurt due to time. He had a good feud with Bob. One of those matches I thought was the 2nd best match in 79 in WWF. Sill I have it pegged as Backlund as MVP followed by Patterson and Valentine.

We don't have the footage to actually do the research ourselves so it's not something we can draw conclusions on except from other people from the era. With that said even if Stevens was better than Pat it doesn't take away that Pat was a great worker. From the footage that is out there Patterson is the better worker, and has a great mind at working a match. It's like Montana and Young. Both are great QB's. Both are in the HOF . Both are on the same team. Both are great.

Brad I' m glad u liked the match. We all loved it when we watched it. I think you liked it even more than the rest of us .

As a kid I always thought one of the unknown members of Power Team USA and make him a star.

Thanks a lot Robert. We have a good team .

Appreciate the kind words Brad. The 3 man band allowed the show to be more how like Parv conceived the original idea of the show. All I can say all the guys I do the shows with are versatile and thus it allows us to do different things like this show. I'm sure we'll be doing more St. Louis in the future.

It's the Garbage tapes. Their are like 14 matches out their. No full matches. The footage ranges from 5 to 17 minutes.

Thanks for the feedback and we are glad you're enjoying the show. It seems like an easy fix.

Yes, when I was doing my ECW watch a few years ago. Enjoyed it quite a bit. Messy of course but in a fun way. Different strokes for different folks. I'm with Will and Dylan on this one.

Have any of you guys watched that triple threat recently? I can't comment much in it because it's been a while. I remember hating the match. It was a train wreck.

Welcome to the board Muraco fan. Hope you enjoy the board. Plus thanks for giving Titans of Wrestling a listen .

I've never done a keeper league. I bet that's fun.

I've always liked the Buddy/Youngblood stuff. I think Jay, Hennig, and Martel are your only white meat baby faces to really pass through Portland.

I'd say Joe Garagiola was kinda like a Ahmad Rashad type. Where he could do game shows, public interest stories, and other things. On the show that got cut I said I don't want Joe G to be our Lyle Alzado . LOL Terry Funk could be a good bridge guy. Also I mentioned Kerry/Buzz on the show I meant Kerry/Borne.

That is awesome.

That's hilarious. John Agreed that is hilarious. Dave is a real life Pied Piper when it comes to influence.

We just discussed this match for a future episode of The Titans Of Wrestling. O'Connor on the mat was a real treat. Everything he did was fluid.

Appreciate the feedback. I think we all love doing the show.

I agree with what Loss said. I hope on the audio bite it meshes with what I'm saying now . Like I don't think you'll ever here me say 5* classic with a dead crowd. Of course some crowds are better than others. This argument would tie in well with the WCW vs. WWF crowd.

I think if you look at all wrestlers, at some point they do something good. It's law of averages.

For me that have been mentioned I would say Crush, Mr. Electricity, Harris Bros., and Baron Sciluna.