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I liked it too. During the Monday Night Wars I really grew to hate him, and thought the whole Taker-Kane feud was over the top WWF silliness but looking back I can recognize how brilliant some of it was.
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Wrestler's Political Affiliations
flyonthewall2983 replied to Cross Face Chicken Wing's topic in Pro Wrestling Mostly
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[1992-11-07-WWF-Superstars] Music Video: Bret Hart
flyonthewall2983 replied to Loss's topic in November 1992
This is probably the first time I ever heard Petty's music. I was 9 years old and music wasn't that big a deal to me (that would come more when I was 13). In all probability I'm sure I heard stuff of his on the radio before that but I never really took notice. I saw him in a documentary a decade later or so and he said rock and roll was becoming like pro wrestling. He said something to the effect of "the fans know it's fake but they love it anyway". That had more wisdom about both that made me admire him all the more.- 18 replies
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I have to think that with Netflix as the primary distributor, and not the WWE Network, there will be some more emphasis on hitting him with harder questions. I don't expect it to be any sort of old-school Mike Wallace "gotcha" type journalism, and those subjects will surely just be grazed upon with little or no substance towards him about it. At the bare minimum, I think it could just be entertaining to watch if they get anything good out of him. He was fascinating in his relative candor in the Andre doc, which Simmons helped produce.
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Trying to think who'd be comparable to Denzel, and it's either Bret or Shawn but I'm leaning more towards Bret. Bret made his name as a technician and not so much a flashy persona, but became WWF champion. Denzel did serious theater and television, won two Oscars, but credibly headlined several movies by the producer perhaps most like Vince McMahon, Jerry Bruckheimer. Comparable egos, and I would not doubt it if Denzel ever thought to himself that he was the best there, is the best there was and the best there ever will be. And he'd probably be right.
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Raven's got a lot of mileage out of that one.
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Just watched the Road Warriors episode. I heard Ellering tell the story about driving the van to the funeral on a shoot before but the way it's illustrated here, and the memory of Hawk's funeral did bring a tear to my eye. Joe Laurinitis' recent passing brought a whole new perspective to it obviously, but seeing how some of these guys are now is sad. Especially Droz, jesus.
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Me and my brother went as them for Halloween when I was 9-10 years old. Face paint and boxes spray-painted red. Can't remember if we did the spikes, as alas, no pictures. I was Animal.
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An episode on Eddie Graham would be good.
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Is the empire crumbling before our eyes?
flyonthewall2983 replied to flyonthewall2983's topic in WWE
Meltzer just reported on Twitter that Stephanie sold 43% of her WWE stock yesterday -
That's kind of his style on his podcast too
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Under-the-radar wrestling book recommendations
flyonthewall2983 replied to Cross Face Chicken Wing's topic in Pro Wrestling
The book written by Piper's kids is way better. -
https://cultaholic.com/posts/the-rock-and-redbird-capital-buy-the-xfl?fbclid=IwAR30clk8MNKEjxvgkroQdV7fyTOWz3DEPsSSz9XmJnFUGYU_GoOlj4YhUqY
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"my lunchboxes gotta sell too" Piper on not jobbing to Hogan
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Outrageous real-life heeling it up
flyonthewall2983 replied to JerryvonKramer's topic in Pro Wrestling Mostly
Some of the English reviews on Letterboxd for it were pretty funny. One compared MJ to Alan Partridge. -
Wonder what Vince made of it, if it was even brought to his attention.
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Bret talked about it in his book and said him and Hogan were prepared to come down and back Tenta up
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Prime Time with Sean Mooney
flyonthewall2983 replied to flyonthewall2983's topic in Publications and Podcasts
The last episode dropped today -
Wrestling parallels w/ wider cultural trends
flyonthewall2983 replied to funkdoc's topic in Pro Wrestling
I remember how goofy Triple H looked turning his WrestleMania 31 entrance into a quasi-commercial for Terminator-whateverthefuck was in 2015. The match itself, of course, was dredging up all the ghosts of the Monday Night Wars and rehashing their victory yet again. Wrestling is steeped in nostalgia, more so than ever now. I remember listening to the director of the Andre documentary talk about interviewing Vince, and mentioning something about the 80's being their "halcyon years", with Vince responding "what do you mean, halcyon years pal?" (something like that), suggesting that he still thought they were as relevant as they were in the Rock & Wrestling days or the Attitude Era (which while I am not so fond of it, I would argue was the only time they were even close to being ahead of the pop culture curve). Reading all this makes me realize there is, within the product, a push-pull between the nostalgia for when things were better, and the denial that things aren't the same now. -
Between the Goldberg incident and his brother dying*, I think he's done. And with how they built the match up, breaking kayfabe, is probably as good an indicator that he's done with the character and found some finality in being closer to himself than he even was in the Attitude Era. *such an eerily fitting coincidence, considering the circumstances around his first match, with Bret Hart's brother dying just the day before. Can't speak to his state of mind, but it wouldn't surprise me if that isn't lost on him 30 years later.
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It's interesting that the whole Starrcast drama was brought up. His body language regarding the fallout makes me think that (at least at the time he was being interviewed) the whole thing had not settled in his mind. Reddit is picking apart the moment after the Extreme Rules tag match where he goes up to Vince after and says basically that's it and Vince appears to subtly beg him to reconsider that position. Towards the end Triple H talks about the buzz of performing being an addiction, with clips of Ric and Shawn talking about how difficult retirement was. This kind of thing is usually portrayed a bit more heroically but it felt particularly sad considering that moment he is chasing through this whole series.
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Hugh Dancy on the last season of Homeland is almost identical to CM Punk.