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Does it have Bobby Heenan screaming at Andre "I'm the fucking boss!"?

Dave Bautista has asked WWE not to induct him this year, as he won't make it due to prior commitments.

According to Twitter, stuff is already being uploaded on Peacock, and lots of WCW and ECW shows are already up. I guess it's pretty random, haven't checked it out myself yet but I will later today to see the progress.

Not quite a dunk but impressive to me

But he wasn't. He was a solid face from the time he returned in February of 93, until he was a tweener with Ricky Steamboat in April and May, and didn't go full heel until a month before the match with Hogan. This part of why their angle failed in 94 isn't really remarked upon, that Flair didn't add much heat to their program. And it didn't help that Hogan beat him every time.

Best thing about that match is Cena sitting out in the audience earlier in the show, and when he has his Clark Kent moment and leaves for backstage to the roar of the audience. But then it became Lucy and the football once the bell rang.

Someone on Twitter last night suggested that they could put stuff like the old territory footage or old episodes of WWF TV on their YouTube page.

I didn't get the impression from that article that at least the guy they talked to from Peacock has the "get over it" attitude. Losing the markers is a negative, but not a huge one IMHO. I'm a little more worried that all the old PPVs won't be ready until summer. Not so much for that alone, but I get the feeling that doesn't bode well for the older television shows too.

Royal Rumble 92 is a great match but the Hogan-Sid stuff took away a bit from Flair's moment.

Goldberg

How were the Von Erich sons as heels? I know David did some heel work outside of Texas and later Kerry did too, just curious how they came off? I haven't seen much of David's work outside of World Class, but from his promos I can imagine he'd work as like a younger version of Stan Hansen and Brody (or in a more contemporary sense, JBL).

I think there could be a case to be made to say that he changed wrestling as much as McMahon did, but history is written by the victors and all of that. The best things about WCW were things clearly gleaned from what his company started.

Someone compared Shawn and HHH acting out their drama to an old couple arguing over whether or not to put down their dog

Just in terms of big guys instead of just guys who were tall, Earthquake and Yokozuna were booked pretty well, at first anyway. Where they really went wrong and this has been well-covered enough, is Vader. But how much of that was Leon White's fault and how much the company's is hard to say. He just turned 40 and lost his sizzle from WCW. And yet despite that he had a good run in Japan after, which maybe speaks to how better they took care of him compared to Vince, Jr. (and Leon said aside from how he was used on-screen, McMahon treated him pretty great).

It's remarkable that at this stage in his life, Taker was having his best matches. The slow, plodding style he had in the 90's meant for the most part, mixed results. Even the matches with Mankind were more dependent on what amazing and dangerous things Foley did with his body, then the kind of ring chemistry we see here. Both this and the rematch bookend what is an incredible end-run for Shawn Michaels, who one would have thought and accepted that he was probably done in 1998. It's arguable that his 2nd run in the 2000's was as impactful as it was before that time. His abilities never seemed to have gone, even to that last match, you would have thought he could have gone another 5 years or so. After WCW was sold the entertainment value of pro wrestling for me as a whole brought diminishing returns, but it was matches like this that reeled me back in. The moments like that since have been few and far between, but to the real fans like most of us it is important to savor them to realize it was never a waste of time.

CWF @ Miami Beach December 21, 1977 @ Convention Hall in Miami Beach , Florida ( United States of America ) Rocky Johnson defeated Ric Flair

Jesse was good in WCW for me because more often than not he'd just call the action and not defend the heel's motives. He'd put over the excitement of the match than the heel/babyface dynamics, which could only help the product as a whole. Heenan could be like that too, especially in WCW. To me, those two are closer in styles than someone like Jerry Lawler when he first started announcing. All he did was cheer the heels and dismiss the babyfaces, until they put him with Jim Ross and more of the things that got him over on the mic in Memphis started showing up in his commentary finally, instead of the goofy "burger king" bad guy he was in the mid-90's. Didn't Jesse come up with the idea of an Iraqi sympathizer?

I think it's as simple as the two of them not having to work together anymore being enough of a reason that they aren't so tight nowadays. Spend enough time with a person, and it can go either way, but I think given the intensity of the workload they took on in the 80's, and all the problems they each dealt with in the 90's, would take a toll on any two friends even if they have each other's backs 100% of the time. The scissor fight came about because Sid was squawking about Flair being too old, and it just became another way in which Arn suffered for that friendship. But when the nature of the business changed, and they were getting too old to keep that up, they suddenly had new priorities and something like a divorce could unravel that bond you held for so many years.

It's maybe besides the point but I like that he said that the other Horsemen should be in the HOF individually. As long as Arn and Tully are in AEW I don't see that happening unfortunately.

Is this show produced by WWE, or is it just Johnson's own company?

That messed with my head quite a bit

Interesting that they are going this multi-timeline route. I wonder how they see stretching it out over multiple seasons. It'd be really something if they built up the whole show around the POTUS question for him to tell us all "sike!" at the end of the last episode. If he is really planning on running, I'm glad the talk is that it may be for a 2032 run. I wonder if in between that time he tries his hand at state politics, mayor of Miami then governor. To the subject of wrestlers on sitcoms, I heard Meltzer say that networks (probably NBC specifically) considered Bobby Heenan for one. A show about his life would have been perfect material for it.