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Has Waltman said anything yet?

Way closer. The WCW audience wasn't booing Hogan for lack of charisma or an awkward push. They (at least in the south where WCW was still heavily based) were booing the face of the WWF all those years the Crocketts and WCW until they signed him was the alternative to.

Are we just limiting this to Hollywood? Cases could be made all across TV, especially Gandolfini and Cranston obviously.

My choice would be Martin Sheen. Badlands, Apocalypse Now, Wall Street and his whole damn run on The West Wing. But especially the first two. If Terrence Malick had been more prolific, Sheen could have been for him what De Niro was to Scorsese.

I know, but the psychobabble he preaches couldn't have helped. And the bubble from the reality TV thing too.

I would sooner blame Dr. Drew for what happened to her than Vince McMahon.

Forgive me for generalizing, but was she ever on one of those Dr. Drew celebrity rehab shows?

This really sucks. She seemed much smarter than the headlines would have had you think. And she was a pioneer for women in wrestling, no two ways about it.

I think we can rule car accident out.

Just watched a bit of this on the Network. Michael Buffer's first night and he completely botches it when Flair and Anderson win, not knowing it's a 2/3 falls match and announces them as the winners and new tag team champs just as it cuts to commercial.

"Failed TV writer" is more impressive than "former ghost-writer of wrestling magazines".

Whichever one hired Vince Russo.

The boxing match from WrestleMania II?

I'd love it if they added WCW Saturday Night at all. We'll probably get every episode of Thunder before that ever happens.

We could probably fill up a good 5 pages on Chevy Chase.

This is one I remember from one of the independent VHS tapes I bought back in the day. Can anyone put a date on when it happened? I'm guessing early 70's in the Indianapolis territory.

Not that I'm defending Warrior, but weren't those comments made 10+ years ago? Who's to say he hadn't changed since then? Many of the people who were homophobic or at least ignorant back then aren't now. There has been a lot of education about gay rights in the past decade. Even Obama wasn't pro-gay marriage when he was running for Presidency. He made some pretty ignorant comments towards the end of his life. His Right-baiting comments about Philip Seymour Hoffman's death were pretty foul, and ironic. A lot of these stories go a great long way towards understanding why Randy Savage was so insanely protective towards Elizabeth. to the point of seeming jealousy about it.

Objectively, this is hardly a new phenomena in wrestling. Look at the ovation Bruno got at the first WrestleMania, just for being in his son's corner. The AWA, NWA and it's territories did it all the time as well. What's different now is the fact that the guys we're talking about now were household names on a different level because of how Vince changed pro wrestling's national profile. Where I get worried is how much the nostalgia pop in turn belittles and diminishes the newer talent. If Vince can find a way around that (hell, if he even wants it to happen), then I won't mind any of it done further from now.

Any good stuff from his mid-80's WWF run, non-Machine related?

I won't be surprised if they phase her out, and that eventually any connection Jim Hellwig/Warrior has with the Warrior award is nebulous.

How close are they to having every single Raw?

Wow

It looks like Louie Anderson.

It wouldn't surprise me that more tribute would be paid to Dusty at this point, and same would go for the show tomorrow. It's in Texas, and he was a major figure in pushing at least Sting and Bossman into the limelight. I would also add that it may be possible that because Dusty died of something not really related to the wrestling lifestyle that they put more shine on him.