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He actually specifically mentioned borrowing from The Simpsons in that Attitude Era announcement promo. I think it's pretty easy to see the mind set behind the huge shift in booking style and burying the Hart Foundation towards the end of the year just by analyzing that promo. I wouldn't be surprised if Vince first watched the show around that time because of Bret Hart's appearance on an episode. He's been known to be out of the pop culture bubble and be entirely about what he's doing, unless the two intersect. I'd normally never draw comparisons to the much-overrated AE and what is a bonafide television juggernaut, but it makes sense here.
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Depending on who else is getting inducted, this already has the potential of being a very depressing show.
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He had a better heel run during the Attitude Era. He went to some really insane degrees to get heat, almost to the point of shamelessness but not going completely cringe-worthy.
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Johnny B Badd / Marc Mero... Time to Revisit his Career
flyonthewall2983 replied to goodhelmet's topic in The Microscope
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I really wonder if Bret weighing the option of going to WCW during his time off is what put the first nails in the coffin of his WWF tenure. We'll never know the effect of Hall and Nash leaving had on Vince personally, but I have to think that the bad business on top of people leaving didn't make him so warm to a locker room becoming increasingly aware of how lucrative the Turner money must have been. I say this all the time whenever this comes up, but I think the whole Canada/US aspect to the Hart Foundation angle is one of the most meta things you'll ever see in pro wrestling. Bret was not playing the well-trodden cliche of the foreign heel, he was pointing out nasty truths about American society, while giving greater meaning to the virtues of Canada. I'm very interested in seeing how many American fans not only remained fans, but were actually agreeing with what he was saying.
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It would be admirable of any actor if they could pull off the way he would move and bump around. That just makes me think in general how actors could study matches and see how far they go in mimicking the trademarks.
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Tom Petty said something kind of profound in Rosanna Arquette's documentary about the music business, about rock and roll being like pro wrestling, that it's fake and the fans know it but don't care anyway. It's made me wonder all this time whether or not he was a fan himself growing up in Florida.
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Figuring out body parts like the carotid artery and the ACL.
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Really has no bearing on the question, but I think he's a good conversationalist but a terrible interviewer. I listen to his podcast because I enjoy hearing him talk with other wrestlers and people in that world, but when he steps out of it he often comes off like he knows more than he actually does. And in most of the stuff with musicians he does he's good at it enough because he either knows them personally or is a genuine fan. But when he interviewed Stewart Copeland for example, his knowledge of anything outside of the hard rock/metal world (or Beatles trivia) is pretty apparent. I don't like that he defended Bill DeMott. I can't say I have the inside track on what went on but when so many people say one thing against somebody, I tend to believe it.
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Shoots Review and Preview thread
flyonthewall2983 replied to BruiserBrody's topic in Megathread archive
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Who is going to win the Vincent J. McMahon award?
flyonthewall2983 replied to JerryvonKramer's topic in WWE
https://streamable.com/19jq Re-posting it, but I found this on reddit and found it really funny. -
Found this on reddit
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DDP in The Devil's Rejects. I don't remember much except that he had a tremendous rapport with Danny Trejo.
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Tom Hardy would make a perfect Roddy Piper.
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Hogan had a few spots on WWF TV beforehand, partnering up with Bob Backlund against the Samoans, and hyping the MSG match. Nothing as defining as that MSG match. The card itself is also notable for (I think) being Piper and Orndorff's debut. They, especially Piper, were as defining to the early success of Hogan as anything else was. So it was a special show.
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[1990-03-31-WWF-Superstars] Hart Foundation and Demolition
flyonthewall2983 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Andre and Haku also had a match with Hogan and Bossman in Chicago, just a couple days before WM. I wonder if they teased the Hogan/Andre thing at all. -
WWE DVD Best of Clash of the Champions - matches selected
flyonthewall2983 replied to BigBadMick's topic in Pro Wrestling
You're absolutely right. The Clash events were big in my house growing up because our PPV company did not carry their broadcasts, and wouldn't do so regularly until 1996 or 97. I think even until their last CotC, the show still had a purpose as long as they only did as few a year as they did by then. -
The Worst Gimmick Match Concept Ever
flyonthewall2983 replied to JaymeFuture's topic in Pro Wrestling
Putting a top on it and getting them out the door would make more sense. -
The Worst Gimmick Match Concept Ever
flyonthewall2983 replied to JaymeFuture's topic in Pro Wrestling
This is as probably as good a place to say it but I've never had a problem with how the WWF approached cage matches, with regards to escaping as a way to win. -
WWE DVD Best of Clash of the Champions - matches selected
flyonthewall2983 replied to BigBadMick's topic in Pro Wrestling
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I kind of feel that it's an unwritten rule that the exceptional talent that retires (or in Eddie Guerrero's case, dies) they get in the HOF the next year.
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The Worst Gimmick Match Concept Ever
flyonthewall2983 replied to JaymeFuture's topic in Pro Wrestling
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Plus it might be too soon anyway, and who knows what'll happen with him in the next year with regards to his relationship to the company. And maybe they'll keep him onscreen somehow. Lots of variables to consider.