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Unless I'm wrong on this, this must be the only time the same guys were in a match together on a WCW PPV and WWF PPV in the same year.

Ayrton Senna did some pretty cold things that could be considered heelish, like driving a guy and himself right off the track at the start of the race to regain his championship. Though he also was quite unselfish in some regards too (like putting his own life on the line to save another driver from certain death).

Yes, well a minister. He's featured in the Heroes of World Class documentary, saying that his time there he learned more about life from his time working for the Von Erichs than he ever did in seminary.

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Russo got to book her anyway. Didn't she actually work matches at one point?

Vader will be the one to induct him.

WCW flubbed the ball a bit with Paul Wight but by letting him do the more athletic acrobatic stuff he stood out. As far as Bret goes, quite honestly if you have guys like Flair, Piper, Nash, Savage and DDP doing promos in a more free-form style than what Vince was doing, someone like Bret who never was a great talker would get lost in the shuffle. Really, what could they have done with him that hadn't been done already by then anyway? Bret's best move would have been to have joined the company much earlier so he'd seem a bit fresh instead of being in the midst of the big exodus of talent from McMahon to Turner. Vince's quote about Elizabeth seems to go beyond just criticizing the content of their show, but criticizing the protection they had towards the talent. Which in the context of what happened is ridiculous, because WCW was out of business for a good couple years when she died.

It got a fair share of coverage I believe.

I hope that in the bigger picture this means the beginning of the collapse of the tabloid culture that exists now. It probably won't, but seeing every new edition of the National Enquirer basically turning itself into a Trump ad is more and more disgusting to me.

That was an impressive moment, kind of a sad bookend to the reunion at WM 7. It would probably be more fondly remembered if they didn't stick them together later on. Vince adding his two cents to what happened really felt scummy at the time, because it read to me as him still being upset with Luger over what happened in '95.

That's an interesting roster from the perspective of people who made their names in WWE. Off the top of my head, the only ones I can think of are Boss Man and Godfather. Hansen had a run in New York, but it was for Vince, Sr. Boss Man was already known for being Big Bubba Rogers in the NWA. Jacqueline was in WCW as Kevin Sullivan's valet, the Freebirds' WWF stint is more anecdotal than substantive of their runs in Texas and elsewhere, and Sting of course is fairly new to the company though pretty much all but done.

I don't think Gary Hart believed that, but that he just overdosed. I can't remember if he said it on the WWE DVD, but in the Heroes of World Class doc David Manning said he thought there was foul play.

Watch and learn.

So is there one or two more yet to be announced? I can't remember if they announce one 5 days before the show or not.

I noticed that too, like as soon as the Network launched.

This has the potential of being a very depressing show. Between Boss Man and Gordy being dead, and the inevitable tributes to the major losses of last year, napkins will be going out quite a bit I think.

Without even thinking about it, before. I watched the Monday Night Wars as they were peaking in '97 and '98, but specifically when it comes to WCW stuff I'm more eager to watch it from the early 90's right up until Hogan signed with them.

He actually specifically mentioned borrowing from The Simpsons in that Attitude Era announcement promo. I think it's pretty easy to see the mind set behind the huge shift in booking style and burying the Hart Foundation towards the end of the year just by analyzing that promo. I wouldn't be surprised if Vince first watched the show around that time because of Bret Hart's appearance on an episode. He's been known to be out of the pop culture bubble and be entirely about what he's doing, unless the two intersect. I'd normally never draw comparisons to the much-overrated AE and what is a bonafide television juggernaut, but it makes sense here.

Depending on who else is getting inducted, this already has the potential of being a very depressing show.

He had a better heel run during the Attitude Era. He went to some really insane degrees to get heat, almost to the point of shamelessness but not going completely cringe-worthy.

He's being interviewed very soon for Jim Ross' podcast.

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I really wonder if Bret weighing the option of going to WCW during his time off is what put the first nails in the coffin of his WWF tenure. We'll never know the effect of Hall and Nash leaving had on Vince personally, but I have to think that the bad business on top of people leaving didn't make him so warm to a locker room becoming increasingly aware of how lucrative the Turner money must have been. I say this all the time whenever this comes up, but I think the whole Canada/US aspect to the Hart Foundation angle is one of the most meta things you'll ever see in pro wrestling. Bret was not playing the well-trodden cliche of the foreign heel, he was pointing out nasty truths about American society, while giving greater meaning to the virtues of Canada. I'm very interested in seeing how many American fans not only remained fans, but were actually agreeing with what he was saying.