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The best WOS match I have ever seen. Mind you, it is the only WOS match I have seen, but it is like Misawa-Kawada good to me. Do any other WOS matches compete with this one?

I have matches starting from 80 to this year. Practically every major match, although, I hadn't remembered the I Quit cage match. There are other omissions from faulty memory, but 310 matches with a few angles is a heck of a desert island and/or introduction to just about every style/promotion/significant worker there is. Singles, tag, six-man, eight-man, ten-man, ladder, hardcore, lucha, puro, territories, and much, much more. EDIT: At any rate, agree or disagree, I think this might be an interesting list to keep in consideration. Not mine, no, but an overall "desert island" kind of list. Since the GOAT has failed to get off the ground (again), maybe we could concentrate on a project of this magnitude? Obviously, I have no problem compiling a list of 310 matches/angles in an hour. Copy and paste, man, copy and paste. I would just need help with dates, suggestions, omissions, stuff of that nature.

If I were to show someone three-hundred and ten matches/angles from wrestling, this would be the list: 1. 1994 Sandman gets a lit cigarette in the eye! ECW 2. 1994 Sandman’s “retirement” ceremony ECW 3. 1986 Akira Maeda vs. Andre the Giant Infamous Shoot 4. Cactus Jack Promo: “Cane Dewey” 5. 3-5-69 the Destroyer vs. Giant Baba AJPW 6. 7-25-74 the Destroyer vs. Mil Mascaras AJPW 7. 11-22-75 Clive Myers vs. Steve Grey WOS 8. 12-9-75 Harley Race vs. Giant Baba AJPW 9. 12-11-75 Antonio Inoki vs. Billy Robinson NJPW 10. 7-24-76 Billy Robinson vs. Giant Baba AJPW 11. 2-5-80 Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Dynamite Kid NJPW 12. 2-14-81 Ricky Morton & Eddie Gilbert vs. Masa Fuchi & Atsushi Onita (Tupelo Concession Stand Brawl) Memphis 13. 4-6-81 Jerry Lawler vs. Terry Funk (Empty Arena) Memphis 14. 4-23-81 Tiger Mask vs. Dynamite Kid NJPW 15. 9-23-81 Andre the Giant vs. Stan Hansen NJPW 16. 4-10-82 Ric Flair vs. Brett Sawyer (2 out of 3 falls) Portland 17. 8-15-82 Ric Flair vs. Kerry Von Erich 18. 12-25-82 Ric Flair vs. Kerry Von Erich 19. 4-21-83 Tiger Mask vs. Dynamite Kid NJPW 20. 9-23-83 MS1 vs. Sangre Chicana EMLL 21. 11-24-83 Roddy Piper vs. Greg Valentine (Dog Collar) NWA 22. 11-24-83 Ric Flair vs. Harley Race (NWA World Heavyweight + Cage) NWA 23. 12-12-83 Tsuruta & Tenryu vs. Hansen & Brody AJPW 24. 1-23-84 Hulk Hogan vs. The Sheik (WWF World Heavyweight) 25. 5-29-84 Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat (Champion versus Champion) NWA 26. 7-23-84 Sayama & Takada vs. Maeda & Fujiwara UWF 27. 11-22-84 Ricky Steamboat vs. Tully Blanchard NWA 28. 11-22-84 Terry Gordy vs. Killer Khan 29. 12-7-84 Tatsumi Fujinami & Antonio Inoki vs. Dick Murdoch & Adrian Adonis NJPW 30. 3-22-85 DiBiase vs. Duggan (No DQ + Cage + Tuxedos + Loser Leaves Town + Coal Miners Glove on a Poll) Mid-South 31. 6-24-85 Super Tiger vs. Yoshiaki Fujiwara UWF 32. 8-22-85 Devil Masami vs. Chigusa Nagayo AJW 33. 8-22-85 Jaguar Yokota vs. Lioness Asuka AJW 34. 8-28-85 Dump Matsumoto vs. Chigusa Nagayo AJW 35. 9-6-85 Super Tiger vs. Nobuhiko Takada UWF 36. 9-11-85 Kazuo Yamazaki vs. Nobuhiko Takada UWF 37. 9-22-85 Butch Reed vs. Dick Murdoch Mid-South 38. 6-12-86 Akira Maeda vs. Tatsumi Fujinami NJPW 39. 7-5-86 Ric Flair vs. Ricky Morton (NWA World Heavyweight + Cage) NWA 40. 7-26-86 Ric Flair vs. Dusty Rhodes (NWA World Heavyweight + Cage) NWA 41. 8-29-86 El Hijo del Santo vs. El Espanto Jr UWA 42. 11-7-86 Dump Matsumoto vs. Chigusa Nagayo AJW 43. 1-24-87 Ric Flair vs. Barry Windham (NWA World Heavyweight) NWA 44. 3-29-87 Randy Savage vs. Ricky Steamboat (WWF Intercontinental) WWF 45. 4-11-87 Ric Flair vs. Barry Windham (NWA World Heavyweight) NWA 46. 7-4-87 Four Horsemen (Ric Flair, Arn Anderson, Tully Blanchard, Lex Luger & JJ Dillon) vs. Dusty Rhodes, Nikita Koloff, Road Warriors & Paul Ellering (War Games) NWA 47. 7-11-87 Dick Murdoch vs. Barry Windham Mid-South 48. 7-18-87 El Hijo del Santo vs. Negro Casas Mask vs. Hair 49. 3-27-88 Ric Flair vs. Sting (NWA World Heavyweight) NWA 50. 8-13-88 Kazuo Yamazaki vs. Nobuhiko Takada UWF 51. 12-16-88 Genichiro Tenryu & Toshiaki Kawada vs. Stan Hansen & Terry Gordy AJPW 52. 12-26-88 Ric Flair vs. Lex Luger (NWA World Heavyweight) NWA 53. 2-20-89 Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat (NWA World Heavyweight) NWA 54. 4-2-89 Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat (NWA World Heavyweight) NWA 55. 5-7-89 Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat (NWA World Heavyweight) NWA 56. 6-5-89 Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Genichiro Tenryu AJPW 57. 11-15-89 Ric Flair vs. Terry Funk (NWA World Heavyweight + I Quit) NWA 58. 1-31-90 Jushin Liger vs. Naoki Sano (IWGP Junior Title) NJPW 59. 4-1-90 Hulk Hogan vs. Ultimate Warrior WWF 60. 4-13-90 Hulk Hogan vs. Stan Hansen AJPW 61. 6-8-90 Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Mitsuharu Misawa AJPW 62. 7-7-90 Midnight Express vs. Southern Boys (NWA United States Tag Team) 63. 9-1-90 Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Mitsuharu Misawa AJPW 64. 9-30-90 Tsuruta & Taue vs. Misawa & Kawada AJPW 65. 10-19-90 Tsuruta/Taue/Fuchi vs. Misawa/Kawada/Kobashi AJPW 66. 11-1-90 Keiji Mutoh & Masahiro Chono vs. Hiroshi Hase & Kensuke Sasaki (IWGP Heavyweight Tag Team Titles) NJPW 67. 11-1-90 Jushin Liger vs. Pegasus Kid (IWGP Junior Title) NJPW 68. 12-7-90 Tsuruta & Taue vs. Misawa & Kawada AJPW 69. 1-13-91 El Hijo del Santo vs. Brazo de Oro Mask vs. Hair UWA 70. 2-24-91 Ric Flair & Larry Zbyszko & Sid Vicious & Barry Windham vs. Steiner Brothers & Sting & Brian Pillman War Games 71. 4-18-91 Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Jumbo Tsuruta AJPW 72. 4-20-91 Tsuruta/Taue/Fuchi vs. Misawa/Kawada/Kobashi AJPW 73. 4-28-91 Jushin Liger vs. Owen Hart (TOSJ Tournament) NJPW 74. 5-19-91 Wayne Shamrock v. Naoki Sano PWFG 75. 5-19-91 Steiner Brothers vs. Sting & Lex Luger (WCW World Tag Team) 76. 5-24-91 Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Kenta Kobashi AJPW 77. 8-3-91 Cactus Jack vs. Eddie Gilbert TWA (2 out of 3 falls) 78. 8-9-91 Blue Panther vs. Atlantis EMLL 79. 8-26-91 Bret Hart vs. Curt Hennig (WWF Intercontinental) WWF 80. 10-24-91 Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Toshiaki Kawada AJPW 81. 12-27-91 Jerry Lynn vs. Lightning Kid Global (2 out of 3 falls + Sleeper versus Piledriver) 82. 1-19-92 Royal Rumble Match (WWF World Heavyweight) WWF 83. 2-29-92 Jushin Liger vs. Brian Pillman 84. 4-3-92 Blue Panther vs. Love Machine AAA (Mask vs. Mask) 85. 4-5-92 Bret Hart vs. Roddy Piper WWF 86. 4-25-92 Manami Toyota vs. Kyoko Inoue AJW 87. 4-30-92 Jushin Liger vs. El Samurai (TOSJ Finals) NJPW 88. 5-17-92 Jushin Liger vs. El Samurai NJPW 89. 5-17-92 Sting & Nikita Koloff & Dustin Rhodes & Ricky Steamboat & Barry Windham vs. Arn Anderson & Bobby Eaton & Steve Austin & Larry Zbyszko & Rick Rude War Games 90. 5-22-92 Tsuruta/Taue/Fuchi vs. Misawa/Kawada/Kobashi AJPW 91. 5-25-92 Can-Am Express vs. Kobashi & Kikuchi AJPW 92. 7-5-92 Kobashi & Kikuchi vs. Fuchi & Ogawa AJPW 93. 8-15-92 Manami Toyota vs. Toshiyo Yamada AJW (Hair versus Hair) 94. 8-22-92 Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Stan Hansen AJPW 95. 8-29-92 Bret Hart vs. Davey Boy Smith (WWF Intercontinental) WWF 96. 10-21-92 Toshiaki Kawada vs. Mitsuharu Misawa AJPW 97. 11-26-92 Manami Toyota vs. Toshiyo Yamada (2 out of 3 falls) 98. 12-28-92 Barry Windham & Brian Pillman vs. Ricky Steamboat & Shane Douglas (WCW Unified World Tag Team) 99. 1-30-93 Misawa & Kawada vs. Gordy & Williams AJPW 100. 2-21-93 Vader vs. Sting WCW 101. 2-21-93 Vader vs. Sting (Strap Match) 102. 2-28-93 Stan Hansen vs. Toshiaki Kawada AJPW 103. 4-2-93 Akira Hokuto vs. Shinobu Kandori AJW 104. 4-11-93 Manami Toyota & Toshiyo Yamada vs. Dynamite Kansai & Mayumi Ozaki AJW 105. 4-13-93 Toshiaki Kawada vs. Akira Taue AJPW 106. 4-14-93 Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Terry Gordy AJPW 107. 5-21-93 Stan Hansen vs. Mitsuharu Misawa AJPW 108. 5-29-93 Kenta Kobashi vs. Terry Gordy AJPW 109. 6-1-93 Misawa & Kobashi vs. Kawada & Taue AJPW 110. 7-2-93 Misawa/Kobashi/Akiyama vs. Kawada/Taue/Ogawa AJPW 111. 7-29-93 Stan Hansen vs. Kenta Kobashi AJPW 112. 7-31-93 Aja Kong & Kyoko Inoue & Takako Inoue & Sakie Hasegawa vs. Dynamite Kansai & Mayumi Ozaki & Cuty Suzuki & Hikari Fukuoka JWP 113. 8-31-93 Kenta Kobashi vs. Steve Williams AJPW 114. 1-29-94 Mitsuharu Misawa, Kenta Kobashi & Giant Baba vs. Toshiaki Kawada, Akira Taue & Masanobu Fuchi AJPW 115. 2-5-94 Sabu vs. Shane Douglas vs. Terry Funk ECW (ECW Heavyweight Title) 116. 3-20-94 Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart WWF 117. 3-20-94 Shawn Michaels vs. Razor Ramon (WWF Intercontinental + Ladder) WWF 118. 4-1-94 Heavenly Bodies vs. Rock & Roll Express SMW 119. 4-16-94 Toshiaki Kawada vs. Steve Williams AJPW 120. 4-16-94 Great Sasuke vs. Jushin Liger (Super J Cup Semi-Final) NJPW 121. 4-16-94 Wild Pegasus vs. Great Sasuke (Super J Cup Finals) NJPW 122. 4-17-94 Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat WCW 123. 6-3-94 Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Toshiaki Kawada AJPW 124. 7-17-94 Ric Flair vs. Hulk Hogan (WCW World Heavyweight) 125. 7-23-94 Sabu vs. Al Snow NWA (Ladder match) 126. 7-28-94 Steve Williams vs. Mitsuharu Misawa AJPW 127. 8-5-94 Thrillseekers vs. Heavenly Bodies SMW 128. 8-18-94 Vader vs. Nobuhiko Takada UWFI 129. 8-24-94 Steve Austin vs. Ricky Steamboat (WCW United States Championship) 130. 8-27-94 Cactus Jack & Mikey Whipwreck vs. Public Enemy ECW (ECW Tag Team Titles) 131. 8-29-94 Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart (WWF World Heavyweight + Cage) WWF 132. 9-3-94 Kenta Kobashi vs. Steve Williams AJPW 133. 9-11-94 Sabu vs. Al Snow California 134. 10-16-94 Pegasus & Ohtani vs. Sasuke & Black Tiger II NJPW 135. 10-22-94 Toshiaki Kawada vs. Steve Williams AJPW 136. 10-29-94 Sabu vs. Cactus Jack NWC (Desert Death Match) 137. 10-30-94 Sabu vs. Cactus Jack RHP (Falls Count Anywhere) 138. 1-13-95 Sabu vs. Cactus Jack NWC (Cage) 139. 3-4-95 Stan Hansen vs. Toshiaki Kawada AJPW 140. 3-24-95 Misawa/Kobashi/Hansen vs. Kawada/Taue/Baba AJPW 141. 4-6-95 Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Toshiaki Kawada AJPW 142. 4-12-95 Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Akira Taue AJPW 143. 4-15-95 Eddy Guerrero vs. Dean Malenko ECW (ECW Television Championship) 144. 4-21-95 Rey Mysterio Jr. vs. Juventud Guerrera 145. 5-3-95 El Hijo del Santo vs. Psicosis 146. 6-9-95 Misawa & Kobashi vs. Kawada & Taue AJPW 147. 8-5-95 Eddy Guerrero & The Steiner Brothers vs. Dean Malenko, Too Cold Scorpio & Cactus Jack ECW 148. 8-20-95 Cactus Jack vs. Terry Funk IWA Japan 149. 8-26-95 Eddy Guerrero vs. Dean Malenko (2 out of 3 Falls) 150. 9-10-95 Akira Taue vs. Mitsuharu Misawa AJPW 151. 9-16-95 Rey Misterio Jr vs. Psicosis ECW 152. 9-16-95 Raven & Stevie Richards vs. The Pit Bulls ECW (2 out of 3 Falls + Double Dog-Collar + ECW Tag Team Titles) 153. 9-22-95 Rey Mysterio Jr vs. Psicosis 154. 10-7-95 Rey Misterio Jr vs. Psicosis ECW (2 out of 3 Falls) 155. 10-25-95 Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Kenta Kobashi AJPW 156. 10-28-95 Sabu vs. Devon Storm NWA 157. 11-18-95 Rey Misterio Jr vs. Psicosis ECW (Mexican Death Match) 158. 12-9-95 Steve Austin vs. Sandman vs. Mikey Whipwreck (ECW World Heavyweight) 159. 12-13-95 Shinjiro Ohtani vs. Ultimo Dragon WAR 160. 12-13-95 Chris Jericho vs. Chris Benoit WAR 161. 12-13-95 Rey Mysterio Jr vs. Psicosis WAR 162. 12-17-95 Bret Hart vs. Davey Boy Smith (WWF World Heavyweight) WWF 163. 1-29-96 Shinjiro Ohtani vs. El Samurai NJPW 164. 3-17-96 Jushin Liger vs. Shinjiro Ohtani (IWGP Junior Title) NJPW 165. 5-5-96 Combat Toyoda vs. Megumi Kudo FMW 166. 5-11-96 Shane Douglas vs. Too Cold Scorpio ECW (ECW Television Title) 167. 6-7-96 Williams & Ace vs. Misawa & Akiyama AJPW 168. 6-7-96 Toshiaki Kawada vs. Akira Taue AJPW 169. 6-11-96 Wild Pegasus vs. Black Tiger II NJPW 170. 6-11-96 Jushin Liger vs. El Samurai (BOSJ Tournament) NJPW 171. 6-23-96 Steve Austin vs. Jake Roberts WWF 172. 6-23-96 Austin Promo after Roberts match WWF 173. 7-7-96 Rey Mysterio Jr vs. Psicosis WCW 174. 7-13-96 Chris Jericho vs. Shane Douglas vs. Too Cold Scorpio vs. Pitbull #2 ECW (ECW Television Title) 175. 8-10-96 Eddy Guerrero vs. Ric Flair (WCW United States Championship) 176. 8-24-96 Rob Van Dam vs. Doug Furnas ECW 177. 9-15-96 Team WCW (Sting, Ric Flair, Arn Anderson & Lex Luger) vs. Team nWo (Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall & Sting) War Games 178. 9-22-96 Shawn Michaels vs. Mankind (WWF World Heavyweight + No Disqualifications) WWF 179. 9-29-96 Volk Han vs. Kiyoshi Tamura RINGS 180. 10-10-96 Kaientai DX vs. Delfin/Hamada/TM IV/Naniwa/Yakushiji M-Pro 181. 11-17-96 Bret Hart vs. Steve Austin WWF 182. 11-24-96 Rey Mysterio Jr vs. Ultimo Dragon WCW 183. 12-1-96 Great Sasuke, Masato Yakashiji, Norino Hoshikawa, Gran Hamada & Super Delfin vs. TAKA Michinoku, Dick Togo, Men's Teioh, Shiryu & Shoichi Funaki M-Pro 184. 12-6-96 Misawa & Akiyama vs. Kawada & Taue AJPW 185. 12-6-96 El Hijo del Santo vs. El Dandy vs. Negro Casas CMLL (Mask versus Hair versus Hair) 186. 12-29-96 Roddy Piper vs. Hulk Hogan 187. 1-20-97 Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Kenta Kobashi AJPW 188. 1-22-97 Volk Han vs. Kiyoshi Tamura RINGS 189. 2-9-97 Jushin Liger vs. Shinjiro Ohtani NJPW 190. 3-16-97 Dean Malenko vs. Eddy Guerrero WCW 191. 5-26-97 Austin & HBK vs. Davey Boy & Owen Hart (WWF World Tag Team) WWF 192. 6-6-97 Toshiaki Kawada vs. Mitsuharu Misawa AJPW 193. 6-8-97 Steve Austin vs. Shawn Michaels WWF 194. 6-15-97 Randy Savage vs. Diamond Dallas Page (Falls Count Anywhere) 195. 6-28-97 Dean Malenko vs. Eddy Guerrero 196. 8-9-97 Terry Funk vs. Sabu ECW (ECW World Heavyweight Title + Barbed Wire) 197. 8-10-97 El Samurai vs. Shinjiro Ohtani NJPW 198. 9-20-97 Beulah McGillicutty vs. Bill Alfonso ECW (Intergender Match) 199. 9-26-97 Volk Han vs. Kiyoshi Tamura RINGS 200. 10-5-97 Shawn Michaels vs. Undertaker WWF 201. 10-26-97 Rey Misterio Jr vs. Eddy Guerrero (WCW Cruiserweight Title versus Mask) 202. 12-28-97 Hulk Hogan vs. Sting (WCW World Heavyweight) 203. 1-10-98 Sabu vs. Sandman ECW (Stairway to Hell) 204. 3-29-98 Steve Austin vs. Shawn Michaels WWF 205. 4-28-98 Mick Foley vs. Terry Funk WWF (No Hold Barred + Falls Count Anywhere) 206. 5-17-98 Dean Malenko vs. Chris Jericho (WCW Cruiserweight Title) 207. 5-27-98 Maasaki Mochizuki vs. Minoru Tanaka BattlArts 208. 5-29-98 Volk Han vs. Tsuyoshi Kohsaka RINGS 209. 6-12-98 Kenta Kobashi vs. Toshiaki Kawada AJPW 210. 6-27-98 Kiyoshi Tamura vs. Tsuyoshi Kohsaka RINGS 211. 7-6-98 Goldberg vs. Hulk Hogan (WCW World Heavyweight) 212. 10-25-98 Diamond Dallas Page vs. Goldberg (WCW World Heavyweight) 213. 10-31-98 Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Kenta Kobashi AJPW 214. 12-27-98 Goldberg vs. Kevin Nash (WCW World Heavyweight) 215. 1-17-99 Shane Douglas vs. Taz ECW (ECW World Heavyweight Title) 216. 2-21-99 Chris Benoit & Dean Malenko vs. Barry Windham & Curt Hennig WCW 217. 4-11-99 Benoit & Malenko vs. Raven & Saturn WCW 218. 4-26-99 Daisuke Ikeda vs. Alexander Otsuka BattlArts 219. 4-26-99 Sting vs. Diamond Dallas Page WCW 220. 6-4-99 Misawa & Taue vs. Kawada & Kobashi AJPW 221. 6-11-99 Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Kenta Kobashi AJPW 222. 10-17-99 Edge & Christian vs. the Hardy Boys WWF 223. 12-23-99 Mike Awesome vs. Masato Tanaka ECW (ECW World Heavyweight Title) 224. 1-23-00 Triple H vs. Cactus Jack WWF 225. 2-7-00 Ten-man tag WWF 226. 5-14-00 Yoshihiro Tajiri vs. Steve Corino ECW 227. 10-28-00 Toshiaki Kawada vs. Genichiro Tenryu AJPW 228. 12-14-00 Nagata & Iizuka vs. Kawada & Fuchi NJPW 229. 1-8-01 Steve Austin vs. Kurt Angle WWF 230. 1-21-01 Chris Benoit vs. Chris Jericho WWF 231. 2-25-01 Steve Austin vs. Triple H (Three Stages of Hell) WWF 232. 5-21-01 Benoit & Jericho vs. Austin & HHH WWF 233. 6-8-01 Keiji Muto vs. Genichiro Tenryu AJPW 234. 10-27-01 Bryan Danielson vs. Low Ki APW (King of the Indies Finals) 235. 2-23-02 Low Ki vs. Christopher Daniels vs. Bryan Danielson ROH 236. 2-24-02 Keiji Muto vs. Toshiaki Kawada AJPW 237. 6-23-02 Yoshihiro Takayama vs. Don Frye PRIDE 238. 7-17-02 Genichiro Tenryu vs. Satoshi Kojima AJPW 239. 7-20-02 Kaos vs. Chris Hamrick vs. Psicosis XPW (Ladder) 240. 8-25-02 Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H WWF (Streetfight) 241. 10-20-02 Angle & Benoit vs. Edge & Mysterio Jr WWF 242. 1-19-03 Chris Benoit vs. Kurt Angle WWF 243. 3-1-03 Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Kenta Kobashi NOAH 244. 4-9-03 Nick Dinsmore vs. Doug Basham OVW (2 out of 3 falls) 245. 4-12-03 Bryan Danielson vs. Paul London ROH 246. 7-19-03 Alex Shelley vs. Jimmy Jacobs IWA–MS 247. 8-16-03 Homicide vs. Steve Corino ROH 248. 11-29-03 Steve Corino vs. Homicide ROH (Barbed wire) 249. 12-29-03 Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H WWF 250. 1-10-04 Terry Funk vs. Steve Corino MLW (Barbed wire + I Quit) 251. 2-15-04 Eddie Guerrero vs. Brock Lesnar (WWF World Heavyweight) WWF 252. 2-22-04 Toshiaki Kawada vs. Shinya Hashimoto AJPW 253. 3-14-04 Benoit vs. HHH vs. Michaels (World Heavyweight) WWF 254. 4-18-04 Cactus Jack vs. Randy Orton WWF 255. 5-16-04 Eddy Guerrero vs. John Bradshaw Layfield (WWF World Heavyweight) WWF 256. 6-12-04 CM Punk vs. Samoa Joe ROH (ROH World Title) 257. 7-10-04 Kenta Kobashi vs. Jun Akiyama NOAH (GHC World Title) 258. 9-10-04 Kenta Kobashi vs. Akira Taue NOAH 259. 12-5-04 America’s Most Wanted vs. XXX TNA (Cage) 260. 12-6-04 Lita vs. Trish Stratus WWF 261. 1-30-05 Mistico vs. Averno CMLL 262. 2-13-05 AJ Styles vs. Christopher Daniels TNA (Iron Man) 263. 5-8-05 KENTA & Marufuji vs. Hidaka & Fujita NOAH 264. 7-16-05 Chris Benoit vs. William Regal WWF 265. 7-18-05 Kenta Kobashi vs. Kensuke Sasaki NOAH 266. 7-18-05 KENTA vs. Yoshinobu Kanemaru NOAH 267. 9-11-05 Joe vs. Styles vs. Daniels 268. 9-17-05 Bryan Danielson vs. James Gibson ROH 269. 9-18-05 KENTA vs. SUWA NOAH 270. 10-1-05 Kenta Kobashi vs. Samoa Joe ROH 271. 11-5-05 Nakajima & Sasaki vs. Shiosaki & Kobashi NOAH 272. 1-22-06 KENTA vs. Naomichi Marufuji NOAH 273. 3-5-06 Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Takeshi Morishima NOAH 274. 3-5-06 KENTA vs. Kenta Kobashi NOAH 275. 3-5-06 Naomichi Marufuji vs. Akira Taue NOAH 276. 4-23-06 Naomichi Marufuji vs. Kenta Kobashi NOAH 277. 4-29-06 Bryan Danielson vs. Nigel McGuinness ROH 278. 4-30-06 Giant Bernard vs. Yuji Nagata NJPW 279. 5-8-06 Chris Benoit vs. William Regal 280. 5-21-06 Chris Benoit vs. Fit Finlay 281. 7-15-06 Cage of Death ROH 282. 7-16-06 Morishima & Rikio vs. KENTA & Marufuji NOAH 283. 8-6-06 Bryan Danielson vs. Samoa Joe ROH 284. 8-12-06 Bryan Danielson vs. Nigel McGuinness ROH 285. 9-2-06 Super Dragon vs. Necro Butcher PWG 286. 9-16-06 Bryan Danielson vs. KENTA ROH 287. 10-8-06 Chris Benoit vs. William Regal 288. 10-28-06 Bryan Danielson vs. Samoa Joe ROH (No Disqualifications + No Time Limit) 289. 10-29-06 Naomichi Marufuji vs. KENTA NOAH 290. 11-4-06 KENTA vs. Matt Sydal ROH 291. 11-24-06 Chris Benoit vs. Fit Finlay 292. 12-2-06 KENTA vs. Bryan Danielson NOAH 293. 1-28-07 John Cena vs. Umaga WWF 294. 6-9-07 Bryan Danielson vs. Nigel McGuinness ROH 295. 7-15-07 KENTA & Ishimori vs. Marufuji & Ibushi NOAH 296. 8-25-07 Bryan Danielson vs. Takeshi Morishima ROH 297. 9-15-07 Briscoe Brothers vs. Steen & Generico ROH 298. 12-2-07 Misawa & Akiyama vs. Kobashi & Takayama NOAH 299. 5-24-08 KENTA & Marufuji vs. Kobashi & Kikuchi NOAH 300. 6-14-08 Sasaki & Nakajima vs. Kobashi & KENTA NOAH 301. 9-6-08 Briscoe Brothers vs. Nakajima & Ibushi NOAH 302. 9-7-08 Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Michaels WWF 303. 10-13-08 Bryan Danielson vs. KENTA NOAH 304. 12-27-08 Bryan Danielson vs. Takeshi Morishima ROH 305. 3-1-09 KENTA vs. Katsuhiko Nakajima NOAH 306. 6-7-10 NXT Angle WWF 307. 6-19-10 Prince Devitt vs. Naomichi Marufuji NJPW 308. 8-12-10 Motor City Machine Guns vs. Beer Money Inc. TNA (2 out of 3 falls) 309. 12-18-10 El Generico vs. Kevin Steen ROH (Lights Out + Mask + Loser Leaves Town match) 310. 4-3-11 Triple H vs. The Undertaker (No Holds Barred)

Footage has to exist. I'm not asking about stuff you haven't seen, but matches you think all wrestling fans should see. My bad, man. I was under the influence.

I honestly cannot think of a single match that is on tape. I assume you are also asking of stuff that isn't taped? If yes, then probably one of the Holy Grail Ric Flair matches, like his July '82 match against Backlund. I have always felt there would be real moments of hate, stiffness, and overall dickheadness from both guys.

I cannot imagine thinking otherwise, honestly. There have been times where angles have supposedly been "unscripted", but that is another thing entirely. I have been curious of this for some time now - since kayfabe is all but dinosaur fuel now, how does the WWE and other American wrestling companies keep things going - meaning angles. Clearly it is not real, is scripted, and no one ever dies at the end. For all of pro wrestling's faults, it is amazing that it has survived this long on an empty tank of reality. I would have thought that most wrestling companies would have gone back to their fundamental basics by now. That being, of course, purely athletic competitions won by out-wrestling one's opponent, but without the hokiest angles to support and now, more often than not, dominate the athletic portion of the match/feud.

That's the "shoot" match?

All Japan: 1-26-92 Tsuruta & Taue vs. Kobashi & Kikuchi 4-18-92 Team Tsuruta vs. Team Misawa (Survivor Tag) 5-22-92 Tsuruta/Taue/Fuchi vs. Misawa/Kawada/Kobashi - Classic. 5-25-92 Can-Am Express vs. Kobashi & Kikuchi - Another classic. This is the match that has the debate of, "It's good because of the crowd noise," right? 6-5-92 Toshiaki Kawada vs. Stan Hansen - One of the fist puro matches I ever saw. 7-5-92 Kobashi & Kikuchi vs. Fuchi & Ogawa 8-22-92 Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Stan Hansen 10-21-92 Toshiaki Kawada vs. Mitsuharu Misawa New Japan: 4-30-92 Jushin Liger vs. El Samurai (TOSJ Finals) 5-17-92 Jushin Liger vs. El Samurai 6-26-92 Kensuke Sasaki vs. Hiroshi Hase 7-31-92 Hashimoto & Hase vs. Sasaki & Fujinami - One of my favorite tag matches from NJ. Falls way behind the Nov '90 match, but all NJ matches afterward do. 8-12-92 Masahiro Chono vs. Rick Rude (G-1 Climax Finals) - This is a match where I am definitely in the minority. It never hit me as it has hit others. There are some other Liger/Samurai matches (4-16 and 10-21) but I can't remember if they are simply good or good/great. Lucha: 4-3-92 Blue Panther vs. Love Machine AAA (Mask vs. Mask) 7-5-92 El Dandy vs. Negro Casas - I only have four lucha matches from 1992, this is one of them. I know this will be on the set, so that is not an issue. The thing is, I don't get this match. I've tried watching it twice; first time it put me to sleep (literally), and the second time House was about to start. Could someone link to a review or add your own thoughts on why this match is so great? WWF: 4-5-92 Bret Hart vs. Roddy Piper (WWF Intercontinental) - One of my favorite matches from either man. Loved the intensity here, and the subtly of regret from Piper. 4-5-92 Randy Savage vs. Ric Flair (WWF World Heavyweight) - Eh. Savage's selling was awesome, but aside from that, not much to talk about from me. 8-29-92 Bret Hart vs. Davey Boy Smith (WWF Intercontinental) - Polarizing match. I am on the side that likes the match. 11-25-92 Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels (WWF World Heavyweight) - I used to love this match. Not so much anymore. WCW: 2-29-92 Jushin Liger vs. Brian Pillman 5-17-92 Sting & Nikita Koloff & Dustin Rhodes & Ricky Steamboat & Barry Windham vs. Arn Anderson & Bobby Eaton & Steve Austin & Larry Zbyszko & Rick Rude (War Games) 6-20-92 Cactus Jack vs. Sting (Falls Count Anywhere) - Haven't seen this in a while, but from memory, it was an enjoyable match. I recently watched their November '91 "hardcore" match and was unimpressed. So maybe this match isn't as good as I remembered... 6-20-92 Rick Rude vs. Ricky Steamboat (30:00 Iron Man) 7-12-92 Sting vs. Vader (WCW World Heavyweight) 9-2-92 Sting, Nikita Koloff & The Steiner Brothers vs. Vader, Super Invader, Jake Roberts & Rick Rude (Elimination Match) - Saw this on a Schneider comp I think. Nonetheless, thought it was fun. 12-28-92 Barry Windham & Brian Pillman vs. Ricky Steamboat & Shane Douglas (WCW Unified World Tag Team) Other American: 7-25-92 Heavenly Bodies vs. Fantastics SMW 8-8-92 Fantastics vs. Heavenly Bodies (Barbed Wire Cage) SMW 11-14-92 Terry Funk vs. Eddie Gilbert WWA - IIRC, there are two matches from two different promotions these two had on this day. I think this is the better of the two. Not sure though. Joshi: 3-17-92 Manami Toyota & Toshiyo Yamada vs. Yumiko Hotta & Suzuka Minami AJW 4-20-92 Manami Toyota & Toshiyo Yamada vs. Aja Kong & Kyoko Inoue AJW (2 out of 3 falls) 4-25-92 Manami Toyota vs. Kyoko Inoue AJW 8-15-92 Manami Toyota vs. Toshiyo Yamada AJW (Hair versus Hair) 11-26-92 Manami Toyota vs. Toshiyo Yamada (2 out of 3 falls) I found these on that website (cagematch.de) I mentioned in some other thread: 11-13-92 Heavenly Bodies vs. Rock & Roll Express (Hospital Elimination) SMW 11-14-92 Heavenly Bodies vs. Rock & Roll Express (Hospital Elimination) SMW 11-26-92 Heavenly Bodies vs. Rock & Roll Express (Falls Count Anywhere) SMW 11-27-92 Heavenly Bodies vs. Rock & Roll Express (Texas Death) SMW 11-28-92 Heavenly Bodies vs. Rock & Roll Express (Street Fight) SMW 11-29-92 Heavenly Bodies vs. Rock & Roll Express (Cage) SMW Question is, do they exist on tape somewhere? I'm sure at least one of them does.

"I'm not sure what Flair's motive would be to ______" could become a fun "fill in the blank" contest. I don't think a pro wrestler needs a reason to lie. It is in there job description, man.

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Dust blacked out though. It wasn't counted as a submission or pinfall, but as ref stoppage. But I see your point, as I said "never", which I meant in the sense he never got the desired effect out of the move, i.e, a submission victory.

I wonder if RVD was high when he injured Abyss? Bloody?

That's what I was thinking too. And here's why: I'd say Kurt did this in the WWF. Far more debatable point. Some say yes, others no. To me, Angle does what he thinks is best, non-stop high risks, suplexes, and almost crippling himself. But he did transition well to Rey Misterio's high flying by being a solid body catcher. When he actually sells, he is good. But it is another thing of when he actually sells. The ankle lock is a cool move, but it has been exposed too many times for it to be a "lethal tap out every time" hold. There are times when he has the hold on that it looks like it wouldn't hurt my 83 year old grandmother who has drop foot. But this is a debatable point as well - I mean, the Von Erich's used a claw hold as their finishing move. No doubt that Kurt has excellent conditioning and stamina. However, I doubt his neck/back/arms could manage a regular schedule of 20 minute matches. The criteria eliminates Steamboat and other workers like Kobashi and Misawa, because they were never heels. Bret and Owen are the only two I can think of right now that cover all five areas undoubtedly. I think Flair is disqualified because of the 4th Angle because the figure four was his "finishing" move but never finished anything for him. Could Flair do as well against lucha opponents as Owen, or even Bret?

Benoit and Angle, man. Benoit and Angle. I disagree with the, "He has no definitive match at all." Sticking to semantics, Benoit's Super J '94 Finals match defined his career. Made WCW and the WWE want him. Inspired younger wrestlers. Needless to say, the '94 J Cup is probably in the top three of all-time bootlegged tapes. Not saying that makes my point, but it doesn't hurt my argument either. Other matches: vs. Ohtani, 3-20-96 w/ Ohtani vs. Eddy & Sasuke, Junior Tag League Finals vs. Angle, Royal Rumble '03 w/ Jericho vs. Austin & Hunter, 5-21-01 vs. Bret Hart, Owen Tribute At any rate, Benoit has more recognizable definitive matches to a larger audience than Lawler, Rhodes, Windham, etc. Lawler's big matches are like Kopi luwak, whereas Benoit's are folgers. I find it doubtful that a wide audience has seen Lawler's Broadway with Race, even though I've uploaded it and spread it across the Internet in comparison to some of Benoit's heralded matches. The same applies to the Loser Leaves Town matches with Dundee. Or the hair vs. hair cage match with Idol. I would rate Benoit below other wrestlers, but he would definitely make my top ten or twenty in terms of workrate. I'm having a hard time envisioning fifty better in-ring workers than Benoit. I'm curious though Dylan, are there any posts like this from you prior to the murders?

Jingus, you just need to realize you are wrong, know nothing about wrestling, and that Dustin Rhodes IS taller than Taker. If you don't acknowledge that, this thread is going to be ten pages long with inane arguing about someone's height in which you will be vigorously insulted. STOP NOW!

No he's not, Kane had some ridiculously huge lifts on his boots. Hey, I did say probably! I even had it italicized to illustrate uncertainty. Discussions of height/weight always intrigue me.

Were all title matches. I had lost track of that.

The only WOS match I have seen was Clive Myers vs. Steve Grey, 11-22-75, and my god was it awesome. My favorite match from the 70s.

Dustin Rhodes is taller than Taker, Kane, Sid, Mabel, and Nash? I don't believe that. Dustin is like 6'6, man. Taker is what, 6'8-6'9, same with Sid and Mable. Nash is a good 6'10-11, whereas Kane is probably closer to 7'0. How does that work out exactly? That would mean every wrestler was on the same playing field in terms of popularity.

I was researching title reigns tonight for another board and discovered this: WWE World Heavyweight Wrestlers Reign Date Days held Edge 1 January 8, 2006 21 Edge 3 November 23, 2008 21 Edge 4 January 25, 2009 21 John Cena 4 September 13, 2009 21 Randy Orton 5 October 4, 2009 21 There are two other reigns that lasted 21 days - Koloff and Rock. Cena has a 21 day reign with the other World title too.

IIRC, I think he blew his knee a month prior at the Four Way PPV.

While that is certainly true to non-casual fans, since the wrestling community recycles itself, wrestling promoters are allowed to be lackadaisical in their efforts. Not an excuse to do so, but a reason why they do so. Plus, there is only so much that can be unique in wrestling without being so dangerous, risque, or offensive that it turns people off.

I think non-wrestlers would need to be done separately. I'm game whenever you want to do this.

A wrestlers gimmick is an afterthought for me. I look at workrate then gimmick. Nevertheless, unless the gimmick is something I find disagreeable/annoying/stupid/Russoism/etc I don't give a shit. Bryan Danielson is my favorite wrestler. Benoit was before him. They are vanilla compared to Flair. Both of them have arguably had just as good or if not better matches. Both will be remembered for their in-ring work, among other things. A great wrestler will be remembered for exactly that: being a great wrestler.

I find this somewhat surprising. I would have thought that dishonorable distinction would be levied upon someone like Vince or to a lesser degree, Benoit. Not saying Russo is not on the list, just never thought he would be #1.