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Since it was a public event & it happened publicly, where are all the other people from the incident backing up & corroborating the story from Gisele? Are they just afraid of wrestling business retribution or something? If Steiner was yelling that shit out loud, even with the whole "good ol' boys" club or whatever the fuck, it seems like someone there should have spoken up, recording it or something. No place for hate like that in pro wrestling anymore. Should have never been, but we know what the history of people in wrestling has been like over the years. Like the Steiners themselves are known bullies/hazers & people used to re-tell the awful things they did to people while laughing during the re-telling of the stories.

At this point, is there anyone that thinks Jericho being in AEW is a positive anymore? Like, even if we ignore him as a person outside of the ring, just by what he brings to AEW, is he worth it? I don't think his name value is big enough to have to deal with Jericho. Give me Punk over Jericho any day of the week.

I’ll admit that six man turned into a pretty damn good fun match. I didn’t love the finish but I was wrong to write the match off so quickly. The hot crowd certainly helped!

Shame they followed it up with this jobber match…

That was a great opening segment on Dynamite.

I don't like it if it's Taya. Mostly because they should be giving that rub to a homegrown, long-term AEW mainstay. At least, that's how I feel. I would like it more if it were like a returning Kris Statlander or something, not a new debut to AEW.

If nothing else, Nikki is a better worker than Paige.

I'm not sure if I would personally agree with that. Not saying that you're wrong but when I think about AEW, I don't think about Moxley first & foremost & when I think about WWE, I definitely think about Roman first. AEW without Moxley right now still has several other people that they could build around. WWE without Roman right now is what? Kevin Owens & Drew McIntyre still? They have Cody now, I guess, but like without Roman they don't have any of the Uso/Sami stuff. Solo doesn't happen. AEW still has MJF, Hangman, Danielson, and I guess Jericho. Moxley did definitely carry AEW for awhile, no question. And he was a good champion, too. Now I feel he's kind of moved down & is just bleeding.

I don't think there's anyone on the planet that could deny that Mysterio should be in a pro wrestling Hall of Fame. It just feels like every time when we're on the Road to Wrestlemania we, as a community (wrestling fans, not just PWO), seem to have the same arguments & discussions as per the inductees: the WWE Hall of Fame isn't credible, the celebrity wing is a waste of time, how is Wrestler X not in yet? Those sorts of things. If wrestling had a baseball style Hall of Fame, Rey Mysterio is a first ballot.

They could turn Moxley heel by having him go straight laced & being against violence & blood. Although that would probably bee Cactus Jack in ECW or Right to Censor levels of character work.

I would rather see a wrestling company try to do something with streaming than another TV show that people most likely won't watch. Like, does AEW need another hour of TV time? I feel like they already don't use their time wisely with just Dynamite & Rampage & that's not even counting the internet shows like Dark or Dark: Elevation. I thought that WWE would try to be more "internet savvy" when they were doing Byte This! & trying out shows like Cyber Sunday. They were also kind of the pioneers of internet online content with the WWE Network, which admittedly I didn't think was going to work at first. We've not really seen a wrestling company try to have a show that is on a streaming service with fresh content yet though. Like, I don't really know how you do it, maybe a bi-weekly show or something? I know we have seen iMPACT! on Twitch & the previously mentioned AEW shows are on YouTube but it's kind of crazy that we've not seen pro wrestling try to get into NetFlix, HBO Max or paid services like that. Lucha Underground would have been perfect for that. I like what @DMJis saying about a show geared toward a younger audience too. When I was a kid, I used to eat up WWF Superstars - and still to this day, I have a huge nostalgia for it. Granted that was like over thirty years ago & I know times have change. Like DMJ mentioned though, AEW definitely has a lot of their roster that could easily be geared toward children to sell games, toys, clothes, etc. & get their parents to spend money. Danhausen, Orange Cassidy, Dark Order, even Darby Allin. Also, no one is really ever trying too hard to appeal to women either. Like women & children are untapped potential in wrestling.

I hope this becomes a bigger topic for the next couple of days to get us all away from drinkgate.

I loved the finishing sequence in the trios tag title match. The Murphy knee off the springboard into the Black roundhouse kick into the GROSS assisted Greetings from Asbury Park. Everything looked like death there. House of Black look like monsters! Love it.

One of the biggest problems with AEW, in my opinion, is just having good matches for the sake of having good matches. I'm not opposed to great professional wrestling, obviously, but you need characters & angles so that the matches happen for a reason & that there's consequences for the winners & losers. The reason can't be "how many snowflakes will Dave Meltzer give this match?" Bryan Danielson is a terrific professional wrestler but can he carry AEW as the champion that makes people want to pay to watch his matches? That's the question we should be asking. It's the question AEW should have asked themselves before putting the world title on MJF. What is Bryan Danielson's current character? Because it feels like it's just "underdog that has great matches" & I don't see how that draws. Especially when half the time the underdog part goes out the window because you know he's not losing to the guys they feed him on Dynamite. He main evented Wrestlemania. Where's the heat? Where's the money? They need to start pushing up their homegrown stars so that they have options in the future that aren't Moxley, Jericho, Danielson, Punk. That way it isn't ridiculous if you have a Takeshita, HOOK, Starks or Hobbs main event. People take Darby seriously. Really they need to just start doing more angles. Something other than just post match run-ins.

This is probably true but they can't book Sting the way they do if his WCW run didn't go the way it did. The Crow character is iconic.

That’s the fire from Danielson we should have been seeing the whole time! That was great.

Yeah this battle royal is bad

I liked the ladder match, hated the Christian promo. Jericho match was pointless. Love the House of Black. This women’s match is missing for me.

I didn't feel like it was anything special. More like a glorified squash match. I thought that Hiromu/Amakusa was better.

All of that would be amazing. The feud, matches, Gunther in the main event & potential Gunther world champion down the road? I'm here for all of it. Right now, I'm loving this Intercontinental reign he's on. Making that belt seem special again. He's had several great matches too. He had crazy chemistry with Sheamus as well. I'm a big Gunther fan.

Well, the card tonight, for the third week in a row, certainly isn't anything special either, Stiva. I'm in the same boat as you. They're doing another tag team battle royal. That ladder match could be pretty sweet.

This is the first that I'm hearing about the pills. I didn't buy the tan story to begin with & honestly, I don't ever really trust anything that Bischoff ever says. If you've ever listened to his podcast, man, that dude can definitely go on some off-the-rails tangents. The thing is, even with the pill story, or the Hogan creative control, like what else could you have done other than pay off the year plus long build? The fact that they still didn't go through with it, and had all the bells & whistles... even before the Bret Hart stuff or the ref fast count (or not fast count), Hogan got WAY too much in that match. It should have been a squash match. Like Hogan goes for some shit, Sting no sells it. Irish Whip, Stinger Splash, Scorpion Death Drop, Scorpion Deathlock, Hogan taps. Then if you need to get out of it later, you can do so on Nitro or whatever. Just monumentally disastrous for WCW. Even more so than the Halloween Havoc Pay-Per-View that cut off during the Diamond Dallas Page Vs. Bill Goldberg World Title match. Sting could have just said he didn't need the title & relinquish to back to WCW or whatever if they needed to get it off him. His whole goal/story was to conquer Hogan & the nWo anyway. Once Sting joined the Wolfpac & started painting his face red, he was doneski.

I guess it depends on where he goes after Wrestlemania but I think he's booed by the end of the year. Of course, he might also turn heel, so who knows? But the returning babyface comeback that wins the Rumble then goes on to win the title at Wrestlemania for his "boyhood dream" or "do it for daddy" angle or whatever, it won't last. The crowds always get bored of it & turn on it nowadays. Still, I'll take Cody Rhodes over Kevin Owens any day.

I don't dislike MJF. That being said, several months to maybe a year ago, there was a lot of talks about cosplaying wrestlers in AEW. That's what MJF feels like to me. Not that he's a vicious or vile heel, but that he's acting like he's a bad guy. It comes off as phony. He's done a great job getting himself into pretty spectacular shape & I like that AEW took a chance on him as the top guy but like Hangman Page before him, I just don't think it is working. There's also zero that they can do to make me care about an Ironman match in 2023. Even if it didn't involve MJF. I just think that gimmick has jumped the shark. After the last one that I remember in the WWE, where the fans were more interested in doing a Royal Rumble style countdown for every minute of the match, I don't know why anyone would try to go back to that well again. It's the wrestling match equivalent to filler.

I think you answered your own question, brother.