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Episode 3 left a lot to be desired but the main event Last Man Standing was fun. Everything before that was kinda sloppy. The closing plot reveal was fun. I don't know if anything from this season is going to make me feel as excited as I was when Pentagon, Jr ran in on Mil Muertes at the end of the first episode though. That was crazy fun.

Jake "The Snake" Roberts. Not a great worker but an awesome promo, good character & good look. Some of the worst punches I can remember ever seeing in wrestling, actually... but he got psychology & pacing. Also had a sick finish. He's on my GWE list... so... I'd say the sum of all the parts matter.

Again, we can't compare pro-wrestling to other businesses, even pro-sports. If a jobber in TNA grabbed Dixie on-camera, would they get in trouble? Yeah, probably. ...I don't know who runs the other promotions I guess. HA!

I still think it's just cause it happened on TV. Mr. McMahon is portrayed as pretty much the most important guy on the entire show. He shows up rarely... and when he does it's a big deal. Titus is an undercard guy that doesn't really do anything. Off camera, it's two guys horsing around. On camera, it's basically a jobber attacking the top guy there is. OF COURSE John Cena wouldn't get in as much trouble. He's the top guy and makes the company a ton of money. WWE is weird about shit like this. Especially if it's something that involves the blurring of kayfabe. Look at the Lana/Rusev engagement shit that happened on Twitter.

I figured that the issue was he did it on camera, not that he did it.

Yeah, this is definitely where I'm at. Edit: An hour and forty-five minutes later, I definitely no longer think a work is a possibility, sadly.

It doesn't even look good as a finish either - just not worth it, imo.

People saying things like this is why Vince McMahon wants to do "entertainment" & not "pro-wrestling."

Johnny Mundo is one of my least favorite performers in the entire industry right now. That dude just doesn't do anything for me. It all comes off as so fake. He can't even ever hit his own finish without it looking like a botched spot. He's also not a good promo. Not a fan at all. Putting him out there with Killshot wasn't even a good idea on paper to me, so whatever. It was what it was. They had a pretty good Spear spot on the outside. I did think the first episode this season was better than the second but they're doing a good job of reintroducing us to the previous characters & bringing in some other people. Keeps things fresh. Looking forward to seeing Mysterio in Lucha Underground.

Another added bonus of having jobber matches is two-fold: one you can re-establish finishers. Like how everyone always has to kick out of an Attitude Adjustment nowadays so you never buy the first one winning the match anymore. Well a jobber doesn't have to kick out of one. Second, you can win matches with other things. Like the top rope Snowplow that Kevin Owens has been doing, or when Cena was doing things like the Springboard Stunner or Code Red. If you beat a dude with that, when you do those moves in bigger matches, the false finishers mean something & people will actually buy-into them instead of just knowing that they're 2-counts which takes away any heat/intrigue from them.

I think back to Lucha Underground. Sure, they only have an hour, not like... five that they have to fill. But even the people that weren't doing anything, they found them something to do. All the people that had their arms broken by Pentagon, Jr.? They came back & had a match against each other, with something on the line. Then the one guy lost his mask and turned heel on Sexy Starr. Even the jobbers were given something to do. If WWE would just give everyone something to do, they wouldn't have any trouble filling up the TV time. People like Fandango, The Ascension or Jack Swagger rarely even make TV. They have people down in NXT that are ready to be called up. The whole star Vs. star for every match thing was due to the Monday Night Wars, from like, what, 19 years ago? You're not really battling to win quarter hours anymore. They need to be making stars. Some jobber squashes wouldn't be the end of the world. Maybe not bringing in local guys to lose every week like they did with Ryback for awhile but having designated jobbers wouldn't be so bad. Like the Social Outcast. They gotta at least TRY. They can't just keep hoping stars from yesteryear will always be there to bail them out. They have an entire creative team that gets paid to come up with this shit. If they can't come up with something, fire their asses & get someone that can.

These problems will never go away because WWE absolutely refuses to make new guys & keep trying to bring back old people... like the above mentioning of Batista. Or The Rock or The Undertaker. Meanwhile, when they do choose someone to put in a bigger position, they choose people like Braun Strowman. This has Giant Gonzales written all over it again. They were doing good things with Seth Rollins but he got hurt. Roman they seem to keep getting cold feet on & won't book him strong. They book him strong enough to anger some fans but not get the other fans on-board all the way. It's really weird. They need to spend all of 2016 post-Mania doing absolutely nothing but making guys like Bray Wyatt, Dean Ambrose, Roman Reigns, A.J. Styles, Rusev & Big E. Don't have any of them touch one another. Don't have any of them lose. Just have them constantly winning matches over people like Dolph, Jericho, Big Show, etc. Never losing on PPV. Rarely wrestling on TV. Make them feel special. Then by this time next year maybe they'll be able to create some intrigue by putting a couple of them against each other.

On paper, that Wrestlemania card could be one of the worst I can think of. I don't see how that card sells more than 93,000 tickets.

WM7 tag opener. WM6 vs Tito is two in that time frame. They're talking about Snuka, not Barbarian.

Really failing to see how Dolph Ziggler beating Kevin Owens on free tv helps anyone going forward. I just don't get it. I don't get this company. I don't know what on earth they're trying to do. It's like they purposely don't want anyone to look too credible at any given time, so they have to constantly cut the legs off of people to remind them who is in charge or something.

Yup. If I highlight the dots on the bar when looking through a show, it'll tell you who wins & how on every other dot. With the previous marker being the start of the match. I've noted this inconvenience before. I watch on my computer though, not any mobile device.

I doubt too many people were still on the Cornette bandwagon anyway after his racist tirade.

I always liked Scott Norton. He wasn't always chiseled but he looked like a beast and that he could lift the hell outta some heavy things. Like no one is picking on that guy in the street. Dude's chest was huge. I remember thinking the same about Kenta Kobashi at one time too. But I've always been a huge dude myself, so I could never relate to someone like Rick Rude or Lex Luger.

Awesome show. Loved the first season and after seeing all of the first season, this first episode of the second season was great continuation. I legit marked out at the main event & post-match angle. So good. This show made me feel euphoric, which is a vibe I've not had from a wrestling show in quite some time. Good shit.

Wrestling can be. WWE doesn't do wrestling though, they do sports entertainment! Those are not professional wrestlers, those are Superstars and Divas! We aren't even fans, we're a part of the WWE Universe!!

Hmm. Damien Sandow, maybe? ...the Miz would be a good answer...

I like Heath, but he may be a little low on the card to pull it off. I guess good comparisons to past guys used this way are Jericho, Ted DiBiase, Mr. Perfect and Arn Anderson in WCW. I think he's higher on the totem pole at this point than Tyler Breeze, whose name you threw out there.

Honestly, first guy that came to mind was Heath Slater. They entrusted him enough to be the guy that worked with all the legends they were bringing up, building to the big RAW anniversary show. He's a helluva bumper & always makes his opponents look good.

This Flo-Rida shit is fucking excruciating.

AJ Styles is like one Springboard 450 away from the people in WWE audience not familiar with him to collectively lose their shit.