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JerryvonKramer

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  1. As someone who has literally just been exposed to lucha for the first time properly TODAY. Here are some questions that would be great to have answered in this thread: 1. What are the major promotions? Is there an equivalent to a lucha WWF / NJPW and a lucha WCW / AJPW? What are the other important promotions? What are the major indies? 2. Who are the really big stars historically and now? Is there an equivalent of a Hogan or a Rock? Or even of a Flair or a Jumbo? 3. Who are the pimped workers both historically and now? I think the answers to these questions would make the lucha that is cropping up on the yearbooks easier to navigate in terms of knowledge and expectations.
  2. What's the deal with Rayo de Jalisco, Jr.? How come he's been WWA champ since 2003?!
  3. I haven't listened to this yet, but ... does Dylan cry about the Buddy Rose vote percentage at any point?
  4. I swear Sherri is packing extra pounds there in early 90. Macho's crown looks not a million miles away from the Burger King's plastic crown. Effective promo from both. Sherri comes across like she really hates Sapphire.
  5. Now Flair flips over to his "Carolina Flair" persona to introduce Sting ... a tiny bit of foreshadowing maybe? A slight hint of heeliness? Call it audience training but I can only see Sting as a total mug here. He must be getting set up, he MUST be. Arn is a great promo.
  6. Ha ha ha, Scott Steiner looks like a naughty little boy here. Solie compares winning a PWI award to winning a superbowl ring. Steiner says he'll cherish the award for a lifetime, wonder if he still has it. Flair -- yet again in face "Minnesotta Flair" mode with his lower, subdued "serious" voice -- sincerely puts over how honoured he is to win the award.
  7. You can tell Flair is a face here. He's got his "Minnesota Flair" hairstyle and way of speaking. He's wearing college gear. It's like whenever Flair is a face he rewinds back to 1983. If I was Sting, I probably wouldn't accept that offer. Would you?
  8. Can't really believe WCW were running this angle in 1990. I was actually rooting for Sullivan here, Norman deserved to have the crap kicked out him imo.
  9. Ha ha ha ha ha Superb dick heel promo. Really liked the straight-laced Dave Brown here too. His vague disease and looks to the side help to make this even greater. However, Lawler's mullet is atrocious. I like Eddie Marlin as an authority figure and this angle of Lawler not having the pull in the USWA that he did in the CWA is really interesting. This is a great back and forth. Then when King Cobra comes out Lawler's insideously racist jibes really help to stoke this feud even further. The psychology of a heel asking for a no DQ match is a bit strange -- but this is nonetheless a great segment. Can't help but feel Cobra's performance wasn't up to everyone else's here though.
  10. Wow Dustin is young here. I'm not familiar with Memphis or USWA but was Lawler meant to be a heel at this stage? Gary Young gives a good scumbag bullying older heel promo here with some very, very dark undertones. "You was the mistake that shoulda never happened". On no planet and in no state, however, should Young be considered "gorgeous".
  11. This is like in Batman whenever the rogues gallery get together. What an awesome bunch of villains. Heenan's "I'm a massive heel" face near the start is awesome. Sherri seems bigger than normal here by at least like 30 or 40lbs. Let's see who each of them are bringing to the Rumble: Sherri - Macho King Hart: Honky Tonk Man, Dino Bravo, Earthquake Slick: Akeem Mr. Fuji: Powers of Pain Heenan: Haku, Andre, Ravishing Rick Rude Forget about it, I know which line-up I'd pick.
  12. Fulton vs. Robert Gibson would be an argument I'd like to see. From what I've seen, Fulton brought more to the Fantastics than Gibson brought to the RnRs.
  13. My first comment here was "why is Rick Martel dressed as Inspector Gadget" but see someone has already said that. Chad / soup23 is totally right, I have major man-love for Ventura on commentary and this segment is no exception. He's with his best partner here too, Vince, play off each other so well. "He should be arrested for that McMahon ... Personally, I think he should be doing that to one of your suits, see how you like it". It's amazing just how over Beefcake was in 90. Vince: Now you're talking class. Jesse: Yeah, when it looks like your down the soup line with the homeless. Ha ha ha. WWF did this sort of shit better than anyone.
  14. Did anyone here used to watch Prisoner Cell Block H? The range of slightly lesbian-y haircuts on display here reminds me of that. I've never seen any Joshi period. Hotta is just fucking vicious here in the early going. Her kicks are insane -- doesn't the fact that she's basically a man give her an unfair advantage though? Half-crab by Hokuto on Mitta looks really painful. The (I'm assuming) heels give Mitta a real good working over in this stretch sequence. The screaming teenage girls are nuts, feel like I'm watching the wrestling equivalent of Manga. Ha ha. Hokuto's matwork all looks like it really hurts and Mitta's screaming puts it over. Jesus the teenage girls are singing now. If my wife walked in now she'd wonder what the fuck I'm watching here. Hot tag to Yamada. Belly-to-belly. Sleeper. Hotta's not looking so tough all of a sudden. Wow that's just magnificent selling of the sleeper! Possibly the greatest ever. Fuck, double sleeper now, the teenage girls are losing it! Head scissors from Mitta. Hotta is basically dead and tags out. Slapsies now and Hokuto is having none of it at all. That's one mean bitch. You get the impression that she could just beat the shit out of Mitta. Sleeper on Mitta. Hokuto looks like she's pulling her head off. Sleeper from Hotta on Yamada now, revenge time. German! Gets 2. Faces comes back and roll up Hotta. Thought that was it! UNBELIEVABLE. Mitta gets in some cool offense on Hokuto including a great double underarm suplex. Hokuto gets the pin after a nasty looking dropkick from the top rope. I really enjoyed this, excellent match and a great first look at Joshi for me. At least a **** in my book, if not more. This is pro wrestling!
  15. Now this is interesting. Two different worlds colliding. I've seen a ton of Footloose (AJ set) and a ton of Fantastics (Mid South, NWA), I really rate Tommy Rogers as a worker, and Kawada left a good impression on the AJ set. Rogers has lovely hair here. Fuyuki's face is basically exactly the same as Greg Valentine's only younger and Japanese. Rogers's matwork is surprisingly smart and well worked here, not something I associate with him. A lot of blow-job babyface stuff in the early part of this match, double dropkicks and all that. Love the clotheslines into a back suplex from the Fantastics, then a great assisted frogspalsh from the top rope from Rogers. Kawada gives Rogers a really brutal kick to the head at one point. Nice. Tombstone reveral fucking ruled. I like how Footloose turn up the violence. Nice snap suplex from Kawada. Knee from the top from Fulton looks nasty and the piledriver he follows it up with. Fallaway slam! Shades of Tatanka there! Kawada doesn't have many of his teeth does he. Stare down between Fulton and Fuyuki is cool and I like how they stiff the crap out of each other. Hottag to Rogers and a powerslam. This is a good match. Double suplex from the Fantastics. Footloose catch them trying the frogsplash spot again. Powerbomb! Shit. German suplex for the three! Properly good match, at least **** for me.
  16. Also, was Valentine in the Dream Team by 84? If so, a major part of Albano's character was as a manager of tag teams, so from that point of view it would have made sense.
  17. Blassie was acutally just managing Sheik in 84, until Volkoff came in.
  18. Gurreros seemed to win the first fall too easily. Ref was allowing an awful lot of double teaming there. Mando has got to be the most minor-league of the Guerrero brothers, but he looked alright here, like a poor man's Manny Fernandez. Blue Demon has one of those Koko B. Ware-style big asses, thick built. Action between him and Mando in the third fall looked sloppy to me. Santo continues to look great. And Eddy doesn't seem anywhere NEAR as young or green as one might expect in 1990. The Mando mask thing was pathetic in my view, sort of trick that wouldn't even work in the Loony Tunes. The fact it did work brings this down for me, ridiciulous. How stupid is Blue Demon meant to be?
  19. Cool backbreaker by Blue Panther, I liked that. 2nd fall is rather short. Guerrera came out as being the most interesting guy there. 3rd fall and Hamada vs. Casas is cool and stiff. Everything Santo does seems super silky smooth to me. Good introductory match.
  20. Total lucha virgin here. Opening segment between Asai and Blue Panther a bit "showy" for me. Faster paced segment beteen Hamada and Guerrara better. Then Santo vs. Casas seemed very smooth, as if the two men were acutally attached with a piece of rope. Shots to the crowd are distracting. Liked the little hug. MVP for me here was Santo, he looked pretty amazing to me. Didn't like Asai's flippy flippy antics throughout the match, look too stagey and unrealistic for me. Hamada came across as badass. Was having some trouble telling the difference between Blue Panther and Guerrara in the middle part of the match. There were some pretty cool spots during this match though, and worked much faster than the very little lucha I've seen before. Bodes well.
  21. My, my music hits me so hard, makes me say oh my lord! MC Hammer on the menu is a nice touch. My god this was an unexpected start. Utterly bizarre.
  22. I'll be basing my rankings mainly on how well wrestlers perform in skits.
  23. Awesome! My set has arrived!
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