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This was aritcle was put up on a website today/yesterday. yeah...... ......true or not? IDK, but I can't imagine how Trip is going to be when he gets old. Probably be 25 times more batshit and paranoid than Vince ever was.
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[1992-02-08-WCW-Power Hour] Steve Austin vs Ricky Steamboat
Garbage replied to Loss's topic in February 1992
I watched one of the 86 Jake matches a few days ago and noticed this now more than ever. It didn't bother me, but it stands out. He sells like some dude getting beat up by nunchucks in a 70s Japanese karate movie that has English dubbed voices over it. It's awesome.- 12 replies
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I meant he should have been kept to shortish matches instead of ten+ minute upper-card stuff, but WCW obviously weren't going to change the way they work things. It is shitty how the Nash/Rey stuff wound up, though.
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Rey v Malenko from the German WCW show on 6/19/97 Thought this was really fucking good. I have more than one gripe with Malenko, but he looked good as hell here. I haven't really thought the rest of their matches hold up very well for a few reasons- I wasn't a fan of Malenko working the arm and letting it go nowhere at GAB, plus it was kinda boring. Instead of working Rey's body part in this one he just stretches him places and doesn't let him string anything together for the better part of the 16 minutes or so they worked with. Plus, Dean doesn't use that stupid Pull Up Head After Pinning Him spot. Rey was working from the bottom, so naturally he ruled. Loved his vocal selling. Like I said I'm not HUGE on their matches as a whole, so this is my favourite one they had. Rey v Nash (Nitro 2/22/99) This is sort of thing Nash should have been working his whole late WCW career. Rey was pretty obviously the guy making Nash's offense look great by bumping like a car crash victim, but even Nash's selling looked better than usual. The match going three minutes doesn't give Kev the time to completely blow up and start filling time with useless shit. The finish is fucking great; Nash gets him up in the powerbomb and Rey starts punching away with Kev wobbling before going down and being pinned. Million stars for a three minute match.
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Depending what they do with it, I could be buying my first WWE DVD release since 2009. Kind of excited about this.
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More than certain this is the five star one, yeah.
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Sort of surprised the Mikey/Jack Tag Title win was left off. Not that good a match, but it seems like a kind-of biggish deal to include. Watched it recently and enjoyed it; I kind of liked how the Public Enemy didn't stay on Mikey and use him for the peril guy, but instead just wiped him out so they could work on Jack without any interruptions. The ending parts were done well.
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Yeah, I'm a big fan of this. I actually preferred the cage match (curious to see what people think about that) when I watched them both last year, but this sort of blew me away because, like Loss, I didn't expect to like it as much as I actually did. I think this was the match that also made me a huge Sherri fan.
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I've posted (or, been a member, really) on that site for quite some time, and though I really can't stomach 99% of the wrestling threads there anymore, you'd be stupified at the posters on that site. I think I've lost multiple IQ points since reading some of the crap there (which is why I avoid so much of the forum). There's threads made time after time about a wrestler's hair. Seriously. What Mr. Wrestling X is saying has some truth to it. They obv. don't bame Vince Russo for rain, stubbing their toe or JFK, but I'm going to do anything to defend Russo anyway. I think Mr. Wrestling X should have left the quotes out for what he typed because it made it look like it was actually said by people. "A match isn't good unless it's a 30 min spotfest" isn't really a direct quote (unless someone shows me one), but it's more an opinion, sort of. Though "the Attitude Era is the best era in wrestling history"......yeah, that's said. A lot.
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Went and watched the Volk Han that didn't make the set. I hadn't watched any shoot style since listening to the most recent Wrestling Culture (which was great, btw), so it was really interesting to see that, for the most part, the crowd was pretty damn hot for the matches. I haven't listened to enough of the podcasts to tell who's voice is who's, but someone said the crowd for shoot style can be silent just because they're bored out of their minds, and I agree, but it wasn't the case for these. v Nyman 1/24- Watched this last year. Remember nothing. v Vrij 3/25- If this had some more time they could have built a really, really good match. Fuck, with the six and change they got they built a really good match with. Vrij is a big intimidating bastard and the whole match he tries to knock Han out. Han opts for the submission route so by the time they're six minutes in Han has a flock of red bars from knock downs and Vrij has yellow from rope breaks. Crowd were pretty hot, but I thought it might a "no rolling on the mat" thing. v Zouev 4/26- This gets upwards of ten minutes, and my thoughts of crowd excitement being a "no rolling on the mat" were washed. They're not reacting on a historically loud level or anything, but there's tons of claps for rope breaks and yells throughout. Really good match. v Nagai 6/29- Shit hot crowd. Unsurprising seeing as they typically get louder than usual when of their Japan hometown boys is facing an alien. Nagai is such a great Han opponent and this might not be their 93 match, but the key word is "might". I love how Volk makes a submission move look like the end of the world by popping it out of nowhere and giving the guy a panic. Tremendous near 10-count or two in this as well. Who works sub-fifteen minute matches better than Han, ever? v Tariel 12/21- Han tried what he could to make this interesting and actually did by himself, but Tariel looked useless here. Talked about Han making a submission move look like the end of the world for his opponent, but it means little when your opponent doesn't move. Weaker Han match. I've seen a few people call Han one of the best guys of 96, and I'm not sure where I'd stand on that, but he'd definitely go up for me after watching the Vrij/Zouev/Nagai matches. Might not look AMAZING if you put them on the same comp as the best Kawada (who I thought was the best guy in 96) of the year, but watching it all in a row....looks pretty spectacular.
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I remember him taking out all of the Nexus with it last year. I don't think Husky Harris was on TV after that either. I haven't watched the recent SmackDown but I think he used it on Sheamus which lead to the ban of it. Definitely used it less since the face turn, though.
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I'll need to watch it again but I've always had a soft spot with the Warrior match at Mania. I'd definitely put BATB and Halloween Havoc 94 v Flair up there.
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Went through this stuff a while ago, but these two BattlARTS matches I liked a lot: -Ishikawa/Sho Funaki v Ikeda/Usuda 1/13 -TAKA v Minoru Tanaka 10/30 (30 minute draw, IIRC) I honestly can't remember anything too specific as I probably watched them 2010, but I definitely thought they were really good. TAKA comes off the top rope in the draw....yep...
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Maybe I misread it, but it sounded like they tried to play a "people were huge on the story itself" card. The matches were well received, but I haven't seen any ciritcal acclaim for the actual story. Might be because I thought it was dogshit and didn't want to acknowledge it existed. Jericho's return's been really disappointing to me. I wasn't ever on his "he's the best in the world!!!" train, but I like the guy and can say I enjoyed most of his career a fair bit. This year...bleh. I sort of had hopes for him because he looked good in the Rumble, and then the Mania match with Punk I liked too. After that I just didn't want to see him anymore. Hated his promos, and his matches did nothing for me. Had some shitty arse ones with guys like Kofi. I know it's KOFI, but a Jack Swagger or a Primo has had passable/good matches with him. Didn't get behind the Street Fight with Punk at all. Felt like 45 minutes of dragging and a fire extinguisher.
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"The feud was well put together and received critical acclaim from fans and critics alike." .....like WHO?
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[1994-04-16-NJPW-Super J Cup] Jushin Liger vs Great Sasuke
Garbage replied to Loss's topic in April 1994
Slip off the ropes thing is kind of cool to me. Sasuke is just this indy bush league dude who New Japan Junior King Liger laughs and claps at when he fucks up, and Sasuke takes Liger's underestimantion of him and pulls out a win at that moment.- 13 replies
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Jake talks about the Honky Tonk thing on his DVD. They had Jake chasing Honky Tonk around an invisible-to-auidence part of the Snake Pit where Honky changed his real guitar for a shitty ass gimmick one. Problem was, he actually started with the gimmick one and the real one was the one he grabbed to hit Jake with. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kFP8uSflEQ 0:25 Honky enters w/ fake guitar (which is supposed to be the real one) 2:26 Honky is chased off by Snake, goes around the back. 2:35 Honky emerges from other side where he grabs real guitar (that was supposed to be the fake one) 2:40 Ouch. It apparently legit injured Roberts neck, yeah. EDIT- Not 100% sure how much of this is true, but I'm sure that's what I remember Snake saying.
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Wait, wasn't the story that she bought Triple H large photos of all the Mr. Olympia winners for his birthday? Or maybe that's another birthday story and she also bought him those wrestling photos. Not sure if I got the birthday part right, but Steph definitely bought Hunter a bunch of wrestler frames. It was an extra on the McMahon DVD, I think (because of the 'we hang the Vince photo up when he comes over'). -------------- Regarding Brock, WWE are amazing at taking a guy who has potential, or is in a potentially great storyline, and dragging him to the ground to where I don't give a shit anymore.
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They can't hold my attention for 90 minutes, screw 3 hours. This would be really rough if I actually had to sit through it.
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Trip is an 80s fan, but it doesn't exactly mean he has to be good at running storys like that. In 2003 he was just a lousy verison of Flair, holding the Title for a long period of time and having people unsuccessfully challenge him for it. Even though it was a shitty verison of an homage, it was still an homage. Pretty obvious that was also just his way of being a 'Horseman' what with Evolution. He might not have run that shit very well, but it doesn't mean the whole "Hunter is an 80s mark" is a work. Matt Striker brings up older wrestling whenever he can but he's not exactly doing anything resembling someone who isn't a 2000s wrestler with minimal experience. Sort-of-related note; Steph bought photos of a ton of 80s wrestler for Hunter's birthday one year, and apparently frames of all the WWF Champions there'd been. They make sure to put the photo of Vince McMahon with the belt up in a noticceable position whenever Vince comes over.
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Last two MLW shows were "Reload Tour" on January 9th and 10th. Day 1 is mostly meh, but the main event is a good Low Ki v Homicide. Aftermatch has Gary Hart and some....stuff, but the match is legitimately good and worth watching. Day 2 was pretty solid with a small handful of worthwhile matches. But as far as the yearbook goes, might only want to include Funk v Corino, and just MAYYYYYY wantto look at Ki v Chad Collyer.
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Why did Buddy Landel do the whole "Nature Boy" thing? Was that a Rogers thing or Flair thing?
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CW being an 'Anderson' isn't exactly something I'm against (was it even his idea?), but he looked more like he was copying Arn Anderson. Calling himself 'the Enforcer', using the spinebuster, the throat-slash, having similar way of eating punches....yeah. I'd rather he be an Anderson family member who wasn't THAT inspried by someone else to the point of mimic.
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Imagine you are C.W. Anderson and you look like that. What other gimmick are you going to get that won't result in you being a jobber, or a masked guy with a very short shelf life? BLATANTLY copying Arn Anderson (or any other wrestler) isn't something I would have done. It's nice that he's a living tribute or something and obviously likes Arn a lot, but I don't see any reason to basically try to be him. Almost screams to me, 'I suck, I'll be THIS guy instead.' I've got limited vision on CW so I'm not trying to say he "sucks," but if I want to watch someone do "Arn Anderson," I'll watch Arn himself before a meh imitaion.