Jmare007

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As long as they can be creative enough to make the show look cool and top tier, I don't see the harm in booking smaller places for a while. There's got to be places that can hold 2,000 to 4,000 seats that can be made to look special/cool on TV, you add a hot crowd to that setting and it will give a better impression than a half empty NBA/NHL arena. Now, I don't know if there's enough creativity to make those venues look that way, but I'm sure that can be done if enough effort is put on it. The problem would be downsizing and immediately looking like a 2nd tier promotion.

According to Wrestle Tix (which has become the source for attendance numbers) the had 4.7k last night and were running a Buy 1 got 2 Free promotion in the last couple of days. The number is slightly below what they did last time in the same building for a live Rampage in January (5k). I've seen Collision shows that had 2-3k in attendance that sounded like really hot crowds, I think AEW just got better at miccing up the crowds.

If they can't have a dope match with a more established story and more defined roles (Danielson in control trying to "break" Okada, who has to work from underneath before doing what he does best: a great finishing sequence and a W), then this pairing was meant to never meet in the ring. I'm actually not excited about the match at all, which is fucking crazy. But having low expectations is probably for the best.

The MJF/Cole pairing is massively over to this day, imo. But they stopped being an act you HAD to watch live after All In. It went from a hot angle with potential to turn things around for the company to a popular act with no real direction in a matter of 1 show. Then Cole got injured and they pretty much had no other choice but to keep the comedy sketch route that can't really go anywhere until he can come back. It reminds me a little of Danielson ROH title reign when he was feuding with Strong, Joe, Nigel, with KENTA looming in the horizon, while at the same time having mini feuds with midcard talent like Delirious and Cabana and the end goal being Homicide getting the title at some point (though Danielson being the champ to get dethroned by him wasn't required). White winning would be a nice twist and would require an interesting reshuffling but at this point I have no faith TK can pull that off. Besides, with Worlds End being in Long Island, it kinds of hard picturing MJF defending or winning the strap back at the PPV.

I feel like Tony/AEW really had something with Cole and MJF. The All In happened and that angle stopped in it's tracks and transitioned to "they are BFFs, tune in what funny fuckery they'll be involved in every week with Roderick Strong and The Kingdom" and after that PPV everything has been dragging. Cole getting injured was the nail in the coffin but even by Grand Slam, that angle was no longer compelling or can't miss. I actually like the idea of giving MJF a bunch of people gunning for the belt at the same time but it doesn't really feel like he's in any real danger. And the "Devil" mystery has been 4 weeks of literally nothing. It sounds like something that should work, but it really isn't clicking right now. Callis and his family has also moved at a snail's pace and a guy like Takeshita was never really able to follow through his momentum from 3 months ago. Everything else in AEW relies 90% on match making and match quality. And stuff like Miro and his wife, Skye Blue going to the ¿blue side? and Santana/Ortiz are not angles that can carry a TV show. I'm ok with watching fun matches but considering Danielson is not gonna be on TV long -dude is made of crystal at this point, sadly- I don't foresee TK being able to keep me as a watcher and sometimes PPV buyer once Dragon finishes his contract in 2024. I'd love to be proven wrong.

That makes more sense, it was just too coincidental to have happened in the tag match. Him being back "later this year" seems like a lucky break -no pun intended- then.

Is OC the most successful gimmick of the 2020s in the U.S and Japan? I don't want to include México as I don't follow lucha but man, the way Cassidy has been able to integrate his very unique style and character and become one of the most reliable workers in a national promotion is the sort of thing that should count on his favor I think. Dude got better each year and did it in "hard mode", so to speak. Seems to me he'll end up a very viable candidate to enter a top 100 by 2026.

I agree, just out of nowhere remembering you had an easy angle and big match at your disposal (Kenny wanting to keep his record) feels like really bad planning on TK's part.

If the injury is real, letting Dragon go to WK to fight Okada, were the story is Danielson being pissed off about getting shit broken every time they face each other, seems like another injury waiting to happen. Don't picture Dragon working a safe match when the story calls for him to be unhinged. Edit:specially when both injuries happened with things he's done his entire career and not because of working hard or reckless/risky

Danielson/Claudio vs Okada/OC made me want to watch a singles match between Cassidy and Claudio waaaaaaaaaay more than a rematch between Dragon and Okada, Any wrestler that can do stuff that reminds you Castagnoli is most likely wrestling's GOAT base is someone that we need to see him face off for 15-20 minutes uninterrupted. I think Rainmaker might be one of the few people Danielson doesn't have much chemistry with, hopefully they prove me wrong for their inevitable rematch at WK.

Ook then...

Not sure were to post this but WWE announced a Germany PLE 1 week after All In 2024 at Wembley. I truly wonder if ticket demand is huge, they upgrade to a football stadium and all hell breaks loose.

I just hope it's better than the Andre doc. Simmons hyped that one up so much and it ended up being a cool WWE Network doc produced by HBO.

I think most of us still called them or perceived them as TNA and never as Impact Wrestling so I don't think this change is that big of deal. Them trying to put more money into it is way bigger news.

CMLL thrilled with AEW. They made another press release were they praise the company and wish this was a first step for a long term relationship. Even went out of their way to say Luttheroth was treated well.

Yeah, pretty crazy how he's still a difference maker in certain markets.

LMAO, the only thing that happened was you saying Christian was a key/central/pillar figure (or whatever word you use) in the Attitude Era. No one who is serious in PWO has ever argued that Christian isn't a great professional wrestler and certainly I haven't seen no damn argument about Edge being better than him. The only thing it means it's "he's Edge but we can't say that name. Remember he's the Rated R Superstar too?!?". It's a gimmick he can't pull off in 2023 and even if it was possible, Copeland at 49 years old, with a wife and kids, ain't gonna be the one doing shocking shit on TV to get some ratings. I understand why he's promoted that way, they want the familiarity of the name but it quickly becomes an empty nickname. And so far, it's been pretty evident fans do not care to tune in, nor buy tickets, to watch Copeland in AEW so the Rated R stuff ain't making a lick of a difference.

Most of PWO already knew that. You should try this shtick on Twitter if what you want is people arguing with you

Only think I can come up with is that when they ran the segment down before the show there was no interaction between the two. And when Ricky threw that little shot, the veteran didn't like it. No matter how you slice it though, Copeland comes out looking terrible. I don't think the vanilla midget line means anything in 2023 but it just shows terrible judgement from a guy that's supposed to be the reliable veteran.

Btw, PnP is a nice feature but seeing the fans helping Danielson get up so he could be the 10 count and not being able to hear Nigel undoubtedly lose his shit on commentary is a cotdamn crime.

Christian vs Danielson was fucking great. Best outcome too, though I gotta wonder if it was Ricky just being a little shit or if he's actually gonna get a third match with Dragon.

Yeah, I also think TK didn't expect Dynamite to do better than NXT last night either but he wanted to put on a fight and I'm glad he did. I'm happy he cares about this shit. What I believe he completely oversold in his head was the impact Edge could have in his product though. My impression is that he truly thought there was going to be a spark with Copeland in AEW, and there wont be one. The matchup with NXT is whatever, they had to move days, WWE is hotter than in two decades probably? and they put every single needle mover possible except for Roman in their developmental brand. There was no way it wasn't going to be a clear L. The thing he has to worry about is ticket sales, imo. He's so damn stubborn with some of his choices for venues, WWE has Chicago on lock for the last week of November and TK books the NOW Arena for a Dynamite that same week. The result? a market that has already been ran to death has only bought 1,3k tickets so far.

That was an awesome trailer. Only nitpick would be the Ric Flair casting but I doubt we'll get more than 1-2 scenes with him. People are gonna get mad depressed with this film, which is fitting for such a tragic story.

I don't think we have any evidence that Copeland "helped stop the bleeding", the company is in the exact same place as 2 weeks ago but with 1 youtube video that had millions of views. But all that doom and gloom narrative ain't warranted either.