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I have just watched this and I agree with you that it was a fun match and easily one of the top 4 on the show. Maybe they were so over due to people in the UK liking fat men aka Big Daddy Probably a lot of truth in that actually.

I like the old show results found on Wrestling Classics....

On the subject of Over the Edge 1999 and the network: http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2014/02/07/wwe-faces-difficult-decisions-on-network-content/

I too was disappointed by the Vader timeline. I haven't found the last year of Kayfabe releases to be good at all to be honest.

I haven't been posting on this forum for long but I love it. It's just guys who want to talk about wrestling at a level which suits me down to the ground. WrestlingClassics which has a very similar vibe which I frequent for news and articles but I don't engage in anymore because my phone doesn't tend to play well with it. Kayfabe Memories is OK, but it can be slow. Sometimes a few days going by without much happening. I saw that WrestlingForum one a couple of years back. it was all about quantity and not quality so stayed well clear. There was some OK stuff on it, but it tended to get drowned out by crap. There are some utterly tedious forums across the Internet with people either constantly trying to be funny, clever or hugely attached to having an online presence / ego which leads to a painfully cringe worthy environment that only a proper sad case would be interested in. So this forums great, I wouldn't bother looking elsewhere

Dibiase has often spoken about his fondness for his matches with Jake, and they certainly go back a long way. But you don't tend to associate the two names.

But there's a difference between not fulfilling a request that the opposition wants (clearly for a reason) and having a tape in your possession so you hold the chips. If ever relied on for their own benefit (for whatever reason) it suddenly gets "discovered". The BBC has been known to do this with their tape archives.

Worth noting that WWF camera picked up the fall as they are constantly recording. So there would have been video footage, and audio feeds from other camera mics picking up the audio. Bret Hart stated in his book they destroyed the footage. However I don't think this is likely either. I have zero doubt it exists in a vault somewhere, if for nothing else, if ever needed to be relied on in court. There is no way they destroyed the footage. Bret also claims he was mailed the blood stained Blue Blazer costume Owen was cut out of.

I'm curious (although probably not enough to watch the show) to see how they edit it. Obviously you cut the fall... do you keep any of the updates from Ross? Just an interesting question that we'll get to see the answer to. The fall didn't air anywhere. I actually know someone (who's not a crackpot) who says an honest to God legit fan-shot version on an early, low quality digital camera was on early P2P services like Hotline and shock sites like Ogrish, but I'm not sure I believe him just because the odds of it not getting attention on wrestling sites is nil. I came across somebody in another forum who SWORE he had saw it up and down also, and it is hard to wrap your head around when somebody seems SO adamant. I don't think he did because for somebody to have gotten the fall: somebody would have to be filming the general ring area whilst an on screen promo was going on, which is odd. Then the fall would have been so quick, just what are the odds. I have a hard time believing that clip wouldn't have been more widely circulated at the time with tape trades getting hold of it. With the likes of Meltzer not reporting that it was going around the Internet? Somebody like Bret Hart, or another family member surely would have mentioned it at some point. And seeing as the Internet is what it is in 2014, I have a hard time believing it is "lost" footage if it once existed. What is more likely is somebody uploaded "Owen Hart Death Fall" and used a clip of something like the Vic Grimes fall (which somebody did do on YouTube once, followed by legit comments of, "RIP Owen", etc) with an unsuspecting fans buying they had seen it. Or somebody made a video of the photos that fan took from up in the arena, which shows Owen walking the cat walk. That's the closest to candid media just before the fall we are likely to ever get at this point, and that's sad enough to look at.

No. But I'd imagine sooner or later, the vast majority will appear at some time or another via a revolving door.

That's a gorgeous comment, well done bruddah

My guess is that we'll get the HHH special where he goes over at Wrestlemania and does the return job at Extreme Rules where it means nothing. That happened once back in 2010, to a then very green Sheamus. HHH shouldn't have been losing to green rookies on first half of the card Wrestlemania match anyway.

Watching the first Royal Rumble earlier, for my sins, and Jesse making a reference to Barry Bloom was fun.

Very odd they're putting up Over the Edge 1999. I remember thinking they absolutely made the right call in not making a VHS release of the event, sad to see a new transfer of the event here. I feel odd knowing this will be the best video quality showing of the event since the initial broadcast.

I don't know if that's strictly the case. I buy NJPW events with confidence and I've always been happy with my purchases. I never ordered a ROH event due to the horror stories in part, but mainly because I don't care much for the ROH outside of a select few performers.

I want to see a spot where somebody sets it on fire from the bottom and the flames slowly start climbing. Intenseamania!

The first half of that match in the backlot, I still maintain, is one of the most purely violent "matches" in wrestling.

Or, you know, they just really like CM Punk.

Here's an interesting one somebody might know some tidbits on. On one of the early Eliminators vs Sabu / RVD matches, Kronus seems to be fucked off with RVD and starts laying it in stiff. Sabu runs into the ring, as if to protect RVD's image. Now RVD strikes me as no nonsense guy, and I can't picture him letting somebody take liberties with him in the ring, even back in 1996 / 1997. But I think Kronus had a bit of a rep himself. Any idea if a little shooting went on there? Any of the three living guys ever spoken about heat in the matches they had?

I meant more than enough content to pass the time. I actually enjoy Bauer. He keeps the shows from meandering too much. Plus his enthusiasm is quite infectious at times.

Guys, hoping somebody could help me out. I'm looking for a blog / essay Ultimate Warrior wrote outlining the deaths of pro wrestlers. I remember something along the lines of Mr Perfect being found dead with cocaine in a seedy hotel room. Thanks

I wouldn't put Daniel Bryan above Booker T or RVD in terms of star power at all, in all of their relative primes. At least not yet. We'll have to see how things pan out.

I wouldn't watch too much of that in a row, it would get pretty repetitive rather quickly.

Didn't the Raw when he "bought" the show also spike the ratings?

You were still too young to be exposed to something like that.