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Great stuff in the tournament so far. I will echo the Brown/Sting as the best finish. I also really liked Gang vs. Sika. Savage vs. Arn would have torn the house down and the overbooked ending completely makes sense.
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NWA Lutte Internationale/International Wrestling May 1986
dawho5 replied to SirEdger's topic in Promotions
The teaming of Kernodle and Martel was great. Snuka with an absolutely huge title win. I doubt Kokina takes that lying down. -
Wright's Army completely dominated hour two. Watts announcing Rich vs. Gilbert LLT was pretty damn huge too. Your tag division is becoming ridiculous kinds of good. I struggle to believe that Gilbert would hit Rich's car on purpose. Rich himself maybe, but not his car.
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Not fair posting 3 shows in a row! British Steel and Black Irish would get me into the building any day of the week. The Piper/Jake tag and Steamboat vs. Bock would have been incredible. Pillman is on fire and Sabu is really making an impact.
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SNME never disappoints. From the intro promos to the big matches and the storyline progression it's absolutely great. If the WWF had handled Flair even close to this in 92 I don't think there is ever a chance that the NWO forms because WCW is done for. Hart getting destroyed by Slick's men can only mean the Russians are the next up for the title. The Horsemen taking on all comers in the WWF is something else. Savage should thrive against a group of guys who can work like the Horsemen do. Phenomenal interviews all around too, keep up the great work.
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Jayhawks getting the win the way they did in round 2 just adds so much. Roop's comments, on the other hand, add nothing. Which was the point. Liked seeing BDP go over as I like Norvell a lot. The intrigue with Bob Roop and Carson continues this week and I am loving it. Great way to hook viewers in with that initial storyline. Stevens advancing is a good way to keep the crowd happy with all of the heel shenanigans.
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Original airdate: May 9th 1986 (Originally airing in Spanish on WAPA Channel 4 in San Juan, Puerto Rico. This broadcast is translated to English where applicable.) The opening montage featuring highlights of Carlos Colon, Chicky Starr, Invader 1, Invader 2, Invader 3, Abdullah the Butcher, Hercules Ayala, Bam Bam and Dutch Mantell plays. Carlos Colon doing a cartwheel and coming up fists at the ready leads to the WWC logo as the music ends. NWA and Capitol Sports Presenta Los Campeones De La Lucha Libre Con Tus Luchadores Favoritos De Fama Mundial Rickin Sanchez and Hugo Savinovich sit smiling at the commentary desk in Coliseo Municipal Pedro Rodriguez Gaya De Catano. Rickin: Welcome to another exciting week of World Wrestling Council action fans. As always I am joined by my colleague Hugo Savinovich. Hugo: Nowhere else I'd rather be! Rickin: We've got a great show for you tonight, but first some news. Carlitos Colon is still blind, but doctors now give him a 40 to 45 percent chance of regaining his vision. Hugo: That's great news! I understand wanting to beat a man and doing what it takes, but trying to permanently blind your opponent is going way too far! Rickin: Agreed. But it is still more than half likely we will never see Carlitos wrestle again. I spoke with him yesterday and we talked about having a camera crew visit so he could speak directly to all of the fans from his hospital bed. That should happen sometime in the coming weeks. Hugo: That's big news for our fans! Rickin: Indeed it is. This week we will be seeing los Super Medicos in tag team action. Los Primos Starr, the reigning Caribbean Tag Team Champions, will also have a match. Hugo: Both are among the top teams in the WWC. Los Primos Starr have made a lot of enemies, including los Super Medicos! Rickin: Yes, and they seem to be staying away from the limelight as a result. Dutch Mantell will be stopping by the desk before his match and Abdullah Tamba will be in singles action as well. Hugo: Both great wrestlers! We really do have a great show tonight! Rickin: Gama Singh will be stopping by the desk as well. Hugo: Probably to accept the challenge by El Profe last week! Rickin: Very likely, yes. Rambo Ron Starr will be a guest in Chiky's Sports Shop. Hugo: Should be a great one! Rickin: If you like that sort of thing, yes. Hercules Ayala will be stopping by the desk before our main event. In the main event, Owen and Bruce Hart will be facing Ricky Santana and a mystery partner. Hugo: I have some ideas about who it is... Rickin: I have a few guesses myself, but I prefer to wait for the match to find out. Hugo: Spoil sport!! But we probably should yeah... Rickin: It looks like los Super Medicos are on their way to the ring. Hugo: The crowd isn't holding their loss last week against them. Rickin: It was a hard fought match and both teams stayed within the rules. I would guess the results could have been different if Super Medico 2 had still been Super Medico 1's partner. Hugo: Yes, they are still coming together as a team after the career ending injury to Super Medico 2 at the hands of los Mercenarios and los Primos Starr. Rickin: I'm sure we'll see the current version of los Super Medicos take on the Starrs sooner rather than later. I'd prefer it when they had their timing and teamwork worked out. Hugo: They have been showing a lot of improvement. Just one late miscue cost them last week against the Rock'n'Roll RPMs! Rickin: Very true. Los Super Medicos have reached the ring and ring announcer Eliud Gonzalez has finished the introductions. There is the bell. Los Assassins vs. Los Super Medicos Medicos control with improved teamwork and quick tags. Medico 3 stays in a little longer than he should, but cuts off a comeback by Assassin 1 with a slam. Medico 1 hits the ring and slams 3 on top of Assassin. He cuts off the save by Assassin 2 while Medico 3 covers for the 3. Los Super Medicos by pinfall in 5:21 after an assisted senton Rickin: Good teamwork by los Super Medicos. Hugo: They keep improving. Just small things to fix now! Rickin: When we come back we will be talking to Dutch Mantell before his match. Don't go anywhere fans. (Commercial Break) 0 - 8:30 Rickin: Welcome back fans. Dutch Mantell has joined me at the desk and he seems mostly healed up from his battle with Hangman Bobby Jaggers on April 19th. Dutch: I won't lie to you Rickin. Jaggers is a Hell of a tough fighter even if he is a low down, dirty son of a bitch. Rickin: I wonder if you'll ever get to take your anger out on the man who originated the attack, Austin Idol. Dutch: You know, I wonder about that myself. When I was back in the states that yellow coward ran away from me and I'm told nobody here can get him or that slippery agent of his on the phone. If I ever do get my hands on him, Austin Idol will be lucky to wrassle again! Rickin: I understand your feelings on this. The WWC has signed a rematch between the two of you with an odd stipulation. Given that the two of you lost a lot of blood during the last match, the match will be a first blood match. But with the added stipulation that any man using a foreign object during or after the match will be suspended indefinitely. Dutch: I saw that part. There's more than one way to make a man bleed. Rickin: I wouldn't want to be in Hangman Bobby Jaggers' shoes on July 5th. Dutch: Make no mistake about this Rickin. It's going to be a tough fight and I'll have to fight tooth and nail to win, but do you really think making him bleed is going to be enough? That son of a bitch helped put me out of wrasslin' for 4 months! I made him bleed already, he needs to suffer! Dutch makes his way to the ring determinedly while the fans cheer. Rickin (Spanish): Dutch Mantell is certainly on the warpath. Hugo: I would be too! Do you think los Mercenarios or Austin Idol are safe?!? Rickin: I can't imagine they are. The fans are backing Dutch Mantell in this fight, which is understandable. Hugo: Hangman Bobby Jaggers has never been a man the fans liked! Rickin: Yes, and with good reason. I think the fans like the idea of Dutch Mantell using all of his dirty tricks against a man like Jaggers. Hugo: They always do!! And Dutch has a lot of dirty tricks! Rickin: He does, but I think he can outwrestle Jaggers more easily than trying to trade dirty tactics with him. Hugo: Dutch is a great wrestler, yes. But there is nothing wrong with turning a chinlock into a choke or grinding your arm in a man's face when you have him down! Rickin: You and I often have different ideas of right and wrong, but this time we agree. Dutch is in the ring and referee Tomas Marin calls for the bell. Armandito Salgado vs. Dutch Mantell Mantell controls with his brawling and some technical wrestling. A big left hand by Dutch stops a Salgado comeback. The short lariat follows, with a gourdbuster right awfterward for the 3 count. Dutch Mantell by pinfall in 4:07 with a gourdbuster Rickin: Dutch is such a no-nonsense wrestler once the match starts. Hugo: He's very serious in the ring, yes! It made him a great partner and client!! Rickin: I can see that, yes. Up next Ron Starr will be Chicky Starr's guest in the Sports Shop and we'll see Abdullah Tamba in action. Hugo: You don't want to miss that!! (Commercial Break) 8:45 - 16:30 Rickin: Welcome back fans, it's time to visit Chicky's Sports Shop. The Sports Shop intro plays and we cut to Victor the Bodyguard on the Sports Shop set. A voice-over by Hugo Savinovich plays. Hugo: Welcome, ladies and gentlemen to the most watched wrestling program in Puerto Rico!! This is Chicky's Sports Shop and I'm pleased to announce your host, the most charismatic, best dressed man in Puerto Rico today, Chicky Starr!! Chicky walks on set grinning from ear to ear. He is wearing his custom suit gifted to him by Ric Flair and carrying his Caribbean Tag Team Title over his shoulder. He sits down after picking up a microphone. Chicky: Apologies to Victor for taking away his opening duties, but I thought I'd make the show a little more professional. Victor looks more than a little relieved and nods, never uncrossing his arms from in front of his chest. Chicky: Let's get right to my guest today, my cousin, Rambo Ron Starr! Ron walks on set with his belt over his shoulder and hugs Chicky. Both sit down. Chicky (English): Ronnie, what did you think of the intro? Ron: Hugo really did a great job. Not something Victor was cut out for. But he's definitely a guy I wouldn't want to tangle with. Chicky: Yes! He does well at the job I hired him for originally. Now on to business. We have new challengers. Ron: The RPMs? I'm not sure I'd call them a challenge. Chicky(laughing): I am with you there, but our next big title defense is against the Rock'n'Roll RPMs, yes. Ron: Does the WWC know that these guys aren't in our league? I know they are better than the Super Medicos, but who is going to give either team a chance agianst us? Chicky: Nobody with a brain. I'd say our bigger concern is Carlitos Colon's cronies, led by the backstabber himself, Invader 1, are out for out blood. Ron: We got Victor and Tamba. I'd say that offsets anything they can throw at us. Chicky: Isn't it funny how they have all of these guys ready to beat us up, but somehow the crowd still cheers for them when there are only 6 of us in condition to do anything about it? Ron: Al should be recovered in a month or two, but yeah. I guess the fans here don't care who fights fair and who doesn't. Chicky: That's been going on for years. I don't know why I continue to put on the best wrestling show in Puerto Rico for all of these ingrates! Ron: Out of the goodness of your heart. Chicky: At least somebody sees it. Weren't we talking about the RPMs? Ron (chuckling): I thought we were done with that. Chicky: We could talk about these (points to the belt on his shoulder and Ron's) and how we are the most deserving champions in Puerto Rico. Ron: After what we had to go through to get these belts, you'd think people would see how hard we work. Chicky: They never will, Ronnie. Next week my guests will be the very same Rock'n'Roll RPMs we've been talking about. As interesting as that doesn't sound, I'll find a way to keep this show atop the ratings in Puerto Rico. I'll see you next week, ladies and gentlemen. Ric Flair's sign-off plays as Victor follows behind Ron and Chicky exiting the set. Rickin: I'm sure there is a point to those conversations. Hugo: What do you mean?!?! Rickin: I....Chicky is leading Abdullah Tamba out to the ring. Hugo: And the crowd is showing their appreciation the usual way... Rickin: I imagine that will go on for a long time. Hugo: Seems that way. Rickin: You have to admit, he brings it on himself. Which is why he has to have men like Abdullah Tamba come out to the ring with him. Hugo: If I had to have a mnaanprotecting me, Abdullah Tamba would be on the short list! Rickin: You'll get no argument from me on that. Abdullah Tamba is very agile for a 270 pounder. And he's less unpredictable than Abdullah the Butcher. Hugo: Less dangerous, but that can be a good thing! Rickin: Yes, Abdullah the Butcher is dangerous to anyone in his vicinity. Tamba has entered the ring and referee is signalling forthe bell. Isaac Rosario vs. Abdullah Tamba Tamba controls the whole match with his power offense and throat thrusts. He slams Rosario down and climbs up top for a big splash that gets the three. Abdullah Tamba by pinfall in 2:37 with a top rope splash Rickin: Another win for Abdullah Tamba. Hugo: They are starting to pile up! Rickin: I'm sure Chicky Starr is happy with his man's success. We'll have to see if he starts signing bigger matches for Tamba in the future. Hugo: Chicky is a shrewd manager. He won't rush something like that. Rickin: You might be right. Up next I'll be joined by Gama Singh at the desk. Following that, the Caribbean Tag Team champions, Ron and Chicky Starr will be in action. We'll be right back. (Commercial Break) 16:30 - 23:45 Rickin (English): Fans, we are back and I am joined by the man who handed TNT his first loss, Gama Singh. Singh: I don't see it that way. I had the man beat, yes. But it was due to a miscommunication with his manager. And his manager hit the referee for a disqualification. I respect TNT as a wrestler and he's not the one I have a problem with. Rickin: You have issues with his manager, El Profe. Singh: Yes. And I know that TNT on his own can make a name for himself here or anywhere I've traveled. He just needs to be free of the bad influence. Rickin: But you also know that your anger being directed at El Profe works against you. Singh: It does. But it's something I've learned to work around. You saw that when I baited him into that miscue on April 19th. Rickin: Perhaps that's why he has offered you the match he has. Maybe he believes that TNT is better off without him. Singh: No, that's not it. He has some kind of trick planned. He knows I want to get my hands on him and is using himself as bait. Rickin: So you're not taking the match? Singh: Of course I'm taking the match. I'm going in ready for whatever El Profe has in store for me and ready to take on TNT in a tough match against a very good opponent. And if I'm prepared enough I get 5 minutes to hurt El Profe. Worth the risk if you ask me. Singh walks towards the back as the fans cheer him on. Rickin (Spanish): I only hope he is ready for whatever trick El Profe might have up his sleeve. Hugo: Maybe he's not really very smart and doesn't have any kind of plan... Rickin: The man is not as smart as he thinks he is. But he is intelligent enough that he has to have something planned. Hugo: Then I'll just have to side with these fans and hope Gama Singh wins on July 5th! Rickin: As will I. I know you won't side with these fans who are throwing garbage at Al Madril, Ron Starr and Chicky Starr. Hugo: Watch the belts! Those are expensive and not easy to clean! Rickin: I think the fans object to the way los Primos Starr won those belts. Hugo: They beat the Caribbean Express, los Super Medicos and los Invaders for those belts! That's three tough tag teams! Rickin: They paid los Mercenarios to interfere and guarantee themselves a win in the first two matches and cheated their way to winning the third. Hugo: But they won! They did what they had to do to win! Rickin: I'm not sure these fans will ever support wrestlers that take as many shortcuts as the Starrs do. Or Al Madril. Hugo: I'm not sure it's wise for Madril to be out here... Rickin: Nor is he, he seems to want to go to the back. Hugo: Smart! But Chicky doesn't seem to want him to! Rickin: I wonder about that. Referee Ricky Vargas is warning Madril about using the crutches as weapons before the match. Hugo: A man with a broken leg has to defend himself! Rickin: I doubt either member of los Tejanos is going to attack Al Madril. There is the bell. Los Tejanos vs. WWC Caribbean Tag Team Champions Los Primos Starr The Starrs control with dirty tactics and brawling. Tejano 1 mounts a comeback but Madril grabs his leg as he hits the ropes. Chicky hits a double throat chop that puts Tejano down for the 3 despite referee Vargas arguing with Madril for a few moments. Los Primos Starr by pinfall in 5:38 with a double throat chop Los Super Medicos, Ricky Santana, Hercules Ayala and all 3 Invaders charge the ring. Ron and Chicky head for the hills with Victor the Bodyguard, los Mercenarios and Abdullah Tamba emerging from the back to protect them. Al Madril is too slow and caught before he can reach safety and starts swinging his crutch wildly at the Puerto Rican babyfaces. He gets caught with a kick to the bad leg by Ayala and goes down as Tamba and Victor are about to reach him. Ayala and Santana grab a crutch each and start swingiing them at Tamba and Victor, who retreat. Several crowd members give their chairs to los Invaders and los Super Medicos. The babyfaces proceed to destroy Madril's already injured leg with their weapons. Chicky calls off his men and heads for the back as a screaming Al Madril is put in the reverse figure four by Ayala. Rickin: Chicky Starr just abandoned Al Madril. Hugo: And there was no mercy at all. None. Rickin: I doubt we'll see Al Madril again. I'm not sure I approve of this, even if it's somebody like Al Madril. Hugo: We've said it before. This is a war, and it's escalating. Rickin: It is. Up next we will be talking to Hercules Ayala. A different conversation than I envisioned at the top of the show now. Hugo: I'd say so! Rickin: And we'll finally see who Ricky Santana picked as his mystery partner in our main event. We should have all of this sorted out by the time we get back. (Commercial Break) 23:45 - 37:45 Rickin: As you can see fans, Al Madril is being taken out of the arena on a stretcher. It looked like he passed out in the reverse figure four that Hercules Ayala had on him. Do you think that was going a little far? Ayala: You know as well as I do everything that Al Madril has done in Puerto Rico. I doubt anyone will be shedding any tears for him. Chicky Starr won't. Rickin: It did seem like Chicky Starr left Ron Starr behind rather quickly. Ayala: Anything to save himself. He'd sacrifice every one of those men with him that way if he had to. And we aren't done yet so he might have to. Rickin: I'm sure Commissioner Pedro Castillo will have something to say about that. Ayala: So am I. Let me say something first. Abdullah the Butcher tried to permanently blind Carlitos Colon while Chicky Starr distracted the referee. He may have succeeded. That's enough for me and everyone who was out here earlier. Rickin: I did notice a few missing. Ayala: They haven't decided yet if Chicky Starr was a part of it. I'm not going to make them take part in this. As long as they don't side with Chicky Starr we're okay. Rickin: I doubt anyone will be doing that anytime soon. I understand where you are coming from, I just don't care for the methods. Ayala: Nobody expected you to. Rickin: Fair enough. You ended up getting a disqualification win against Bam Bam, but it appears that he is no longer a client of Barrabas. Is there a rematch on the horizon? Ayala: I have signed the contract. Bam Bam will be back in Puerto Rico two weeks from now, and I can only assume it will be official then. Rickin: It looked to me like you were having a tough time with Bam Bam. Ayala: Big, strong...very strong...kid. And it's hard to believe how quick he can move. There are ways around that and I think I would have had him if I could have put the reverse figure four on him. Rickin: Hard to do on a big man like that. Ayala: Yes. But that first match taught me a lot about what I need to do to beat him. I'll just have to put it all together when the match happens. I won't apologize for what we did, but I understand where you re coming from too Rickin. We don't hold it against you. Ayala takes off towards the back, getting mobbed by the fans. Rickin: Thank you Hercules. Things seem to be getting out of control Hugo. Hugo: They are! But we aren't involved in that and I want to keep it that way! Rickin: You and me both. Here come Owen and Bruce Hart. They appear to be talking strategy on the way to the ring. Hugo: Owen is so focused even while he's being hit by garbage! Rickin: And whatever else the fans throw. Hugo: You don't want to know... Rickin: No I don't. Bruce seems to be less irritated with his brother than when he left last week. Hugo: He was just trying to make sure Owen used his manners. Rickin: As older brothers will do, yes. I just wish he knew what Owen has been up to. Hugo: I doubt Owen can keep it under wraps forever. If the mystery partner is who I think it is, it will be very difficult. Rickin: Maybe. I've always said that Owen Hart was a great wrestler. He may make some tactical errors late in matches that cost him, but all young wrestlers do that. In time he will be a force to be reckoned with wherever he goes even without the underhanded tactics. Hugo: He will! I think his brother Bruce sees that too! Rickin: The Harts have reached the ring. Here comes Ricky Santana. He's beckoning at the entrance... Hugo: It's Jacques Rougeau!! Owen Hart is in big trouble!! Rickin: And he knows it. You can see it on his face. Hugo: He's definitely not happy. But these fans sure are!! Rickin: Jacques Rougeau had a very good showing when he defended his Canadian International Heavyweight Title here not too long ago against Owen Hart. Hugo: I heard he lost it after being pushed off of a scaffold! Rickin: I had heard that as well. It's a shame, Jacques is a great competitor and champion. He'll definitely push Owen Hart along with Ricky Santana tonight. Hugo: And you think that Owen will resort to cheating? Rickin: I think that is the idea. We'll see how it turns out. The bell has sounded and we're under way. Owen & Bruce Hart vs. Jacques Rougeau & WWC Light Heavyweight Champion Ricky Santana Even match at the start that goes the Harts' way when their superior teamwork shows through and they isolate Santana. Owen uses some questionable tactics, but nothing too much and Bruce shrugs it off. Santana gets the hot tag to Jacques and he cleans house. Owen takes a powder and immediately goes for the eyes upon entering the ring. He runs Jacques face on the top rope all the way to his corner where and angry Bruce is glaring at Owen. Owen stomps away at Jacques and tags in a livid Bruce, who immediately starts arguing with his brother from the apron. Owen tags himself back in and works on Jacques for a short time before rolling him up with a handful of tights. Bruce pulls Owen out of the cover and demands answers. Jacques looks ready to go after Owen, but Santana hits the ring and pulls him back, saying something to Jacques. Ricky and Jacques exit the ring, leaving the Hrt brothers to argue. Referee Victor Quinonez counts Santana and Jacques out as they watch the argument turn into a shoving match between Owen and Bruce. Owen & Bruce Hart win by countout in 11:28 Rickin: It seems Owen's cheating was have caught up to him. Hugo: Santana's plan worked! Rickin: It did. Owen is leaving the ringside area with Bruce chasing after him and yelling at him. I can't imagine there was any other way this was going to end. Hugo: When you lie to your family and they find out it never goes well!! Rickin: Very true. Well it has been an eventful night here in the WWC. I'm not sure we'll see Al Madril again and Owen Hart's attempt to trick his brother has ended badly. We'll see you next week fans when I will talk to Commissioner Pedro Castillo and our main event will be Invader 3 vs. Ricky Santana to determine who takes on NWA Light Heavyweight Champion Chris Benoit on July 5th. As we leave you we will be putting up the matches we know for the July 5th show in Hiram Bathorn Stadium. Los Invaders vs. Los Pastores in a Street Fight The Rock'n'Roll RPMs vs. WWC Caribbean Tag Team Champions los Primos Starr Dutch Mantell vs. Hangman Bobby Jaggers in a First Blood match Gama Singh vs. TNT with El Profe suspended above the ring, if Singh wins he gets 5 minutes with Profe
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Acknowledging Baba's win was a nice touch. Like Rock Riddle I was also thrilled Davey Baby was back. He just brings out so much more in Riddle than Tony ever does. Kirchner and Armand Rougeau are looking to make an impact. Sammartino being taken under Robinson's wing is such a great idea. Loved Teddy's TV promo. Taylor against the Paul Jones Army should be a fun feud. Not sure I'd pile on against Armand. There are bigger fish in the Rougeau clan. Sugar and the Cobra would have been cutting edge for 1986. Hell of a main event with Big Dust showing up in Orlando. Would have sent the fans home very happy. Rheingans putting one over on Bob is a great way to extend the feud. In fact, the closing 4 matches on the Charleston show were all great. I liked putting Orndorff's win on last, send the fans home happy. I know the Horsemen were big in Mid Atlantic, but I love how creative your booking has gotten in their absence. Not only that, but it takes guys who were being built up well on TV and gets them out of the shadow of the Horsemen. I know you have a new crop of big names that came in like Bundy, Dibiase and Singh. But this gives people like Prichard, Taylor, Rock Riddle a chance to be a bigger part of the whole.
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Loved the Houston show with the big tag elimination match and Dusty going over Dirty to bring the title home. Iceman trying to make his own NoD is fun also. The main would have been a great brawl...with a reset involving the Funks! Good stuff there. The Nasty Boys as heels in Texas is just a perfect fit. Steve Doll is getting the push of a lifetime. Lawler over Kamala is reminiscent of Memphis. I like using the Freebirds as babyfaces against the MXE. Studd and Kerry seems like it's going to be a fun feud already.
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NWA Lutte Internationale/International Wrestling May 1986
dawho5 replied to SirEdger's topic in Promotions
Benoit is having a run of tough luck lately in non-title matches. The Hart Brothers teaming up in the main would have driven Bruce nuts. -
NWA Lutte Internationale/International Wrestling May 1986
dawho5 replied to SirEdger's topic in Promotions
Combining Kernodle with the Adonis story is so great. I liked the opening promo and main event more, with Leduc and Martel showing solidarity. -
NWA Lutte Internationale/International Wrestling May 1986
dawho5 replied to SirEdger's topic in Promotions
Tough match for Owen. I hope he cheated his ass off. Tonga with the unfortunate loss and I wonder how Bruno's involvement plays out. Battens beating Infernales is a big win. Rougeaus with a quick win considering the competition. -
I get this feeling that the Jayhawks aren't going to be cheered for long. Villanos advancing is the right call, I think they could get a lot of heat pretty much anywhere. Seems like a heel dominated territory right off the bat.
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Great build for Martel/Nikita with Magnum not even being physically involved. Ole sure had to pay though. Gilbert and Rich is also a great feud. Any time you can create that impression of a blood feud that's not about winning or losing a match it will draw. I am no huge fan of scaffold matches, but it keeps Jimmy C out of the picture.
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Thunder vs. Patera & Blackwell had to be a Hell of a match. Douglas and Pillman both with big singles wins over Guerreros. Dundee and Orton is a great veteran match-up. Spivey continues to exceed expectations. Tanaka and Finlay is my match of the night though.
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Love the 6-man tag in Portland. Spivey with a big win over Sullivan. Adams is really starting to intrigue me. Pillman going over Orton is awesome. Piper vs. Jake!!! Love Jake as the bad-guy-but-still-babyface role.
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Nobody has mentioned the whole Horsemen/Sting debacle from 1990. Sting joining the Horsemen in the first place was pretty bad due to the fit. And it made Sting look like an idiot for no good reason, something WCW seemed to like doing.
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Loving the Pat Tanaka push. Seattle got a nice look at a lot of the big time feuds going on in the AWA. Piper vs. Jake tag will almost always be the one I wished I had been there for the most. Pillman getting a pin on Sullivan is big.
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Original Airdate May 2nd, 1986 (Originally airing in Spanish on WAPA Channel 4 in San Juan, Puerto Rico. This broadcast is translated to English where applicable.) The opening montage featuring highlights of Carlos Colon, Chicky Starr, Invader 1, Invader 2, Invader 3, Abdullah the Butcher, Hercules Ayala, Bam Bam and Dutch Mantell plays. Carlos Colon doing a cartwheel and coming up fists at the ready leads to the WWC logo as the music ends. NWA and Capitol Sports Presenta Los Campeones De La Lucha Libre Con Tus Luchadores Favoritos De Fama Mundial Rickin Sanchez and Hugo Savinovich sit smiling at the commentary desk in Coliseo Municipal Pedro Rodriguez Gaya De Catano. Rickin: Welcome to another great hour of WWC action fans. My broadcast partner as always is the one and only Hugo Savinovich. Hugo: Wouldn't have it any other way! Rickin: We have an announcement to start the show concerning los Invaders. It seems the WWC has decided to grant them a Street Fight match against los Pastores on July 5th. Hugo: Big match! And it won't be pretty! Rickin: I can't imagine it would be. We also have no significant news on the condition of Carlitos Colon. Your letters, flowers and prayers are appreciated by his friends and Carlitos himself. Tonight we will see TNT in action and on the Sports Shop, accompanied by his manager El Profe. Hugo: I like watching TNT! But I hate listening to El Profe... Rickin: I couldn't have said it better. We will see Jonathan Boyd and the Crusher in action as well as the team of Huracan Castillo Jr. and Miguelito Perez. Hugo: Castillo and Perez are confident after their big win! Rickin: They are, but they don't seem like it has made them overconfident. Invader 2 will be in singles action as well. Hugo: We will see how much he has recovered from injuries suffered at the hands of Ron and Chicky Starr. Rickin: Owen Hart and his brother Bruce will be joining me at the desk. Hugo: I can't imagine you are looking forward to that after last week. Rickin: I am not. Castillo and Perez will be out at the desk as well. Ricky Santana will stop by for a conversation as well. Hugo: He should get a better reception than he did last week on the Sports Shop! Rickin: I'm sure your friend Chicky Starr was justified in his comments. Our main event tonight is a direct result of los Invaders taking on los Pastores in Hiram Bathorn Stadium. the Rock and Roll RPMs will be taking on los Super Medicos to determine who will face los Primos Starr on July 5th. Hugo: Both are very good teams! Los Super Medicos want revenge on the Starrs though, they may want this more. Rickin: But Super Medico 1 and 3 have not worked together enough to be as smooth a team as the Rock and Roll RPMs. It should make for a great main event. TNT is on his way to the ring with El Profe. Hugo: The fans are concentrating their garbage at El Profe! Rickin: The first time you agree with them on making a choice like that? Hugo: Yes! The man is impossible to talk to in any way. Rickin: I have found that to be the case myself. TNT is one of the more exciting young wrestlers to come along in some time. Hugo: Yes! He uses a mix of wrestling and martial arts skills in the ring. He is very effective! Rickin: And I think that different style throws off a lot of wrestlers. Hugo: It will, yes. Veterans, like Gama Singh, have seen things like that in the ring before and tend to handle it better. Rickin: Gama Singh still had to capitalize on a miscue by El Profe and TNT to hand TNT his first loss. Hugo: A moment of distraction can be very costly! Rickin: Indeed it can. TNT has entered the ring and referee Ricky Vargas has called for the bell. El Vikingo vs. TNT TNT uses his chops and big throat thrusts to control the match. TNT blocks a punch by Vikingo directly into another big throat thrustthat knocks Vikingo down. A spin wheel kick after hitting the ropes puts Vikingo down for the three count. TNT by pinfall in 4:22 with a spinwheel kick Rickin: Another way of finishing a match for TNT. Up until now he has used the cobra dinamita (cobra clutch) to beat his opponents. Hugo: You may need more than one way if your opponent is able to counter your main move! Rickin: So that loss, even if it was by disqualification, taught El Profe and TNT something after all. We'll be right back fans with Owen and Bruce Hart at the desk and the team of Jonathan Boyd and the Crusher in the ring. Don't go anywhere. (Commercial Break) 0 - 8:30 Rickin: (English) We're back fans and I am joined by Owen and Bruce Hart. Have you found your footing in Puerto Rico yet, so to speak? Bruce: I'm slowly catching on to some things, yes. My brother has been showing me a lot of the local customs and some tape of matches to familiarize myself with the style by. Rickin: Any of his matches? Bruce: No, he wants me to see how the Puerto Rican wrestlers handle themselves. I have trouble knowing who to cheer for after watching a lot of them. Rickin: I'd say that one reason Owen isn't showing you his matches- Owen: Rickin, you know me too well. I don't feel any need to show off, even if it is my big brother. I just want him to get a feel forthe style of wrestling here in the WWC. Bruce: And I appreciate that Owen. You always were very considerate, and I can only hope that these fans here in Puerto Rico will start seeing that. Owen: In time I think they will. I'm sure having you here to back me up is helping. Rickin: I can't imagine he's shown you any Ricky Santana matches either. Bruce: He has. I have to say I would be a fan of the kid if he hadn't tried to make sure my younger brother never had any kids of his own on my first night here. Rickin: I'd say what you saw was the culmination of- Owen: What Rickin is trying to tell you is that Ricky Santana had yet to beat me in two previous singles matches. He just couldn't handle losing to me a third time and resorted to dirty tactics to get a win. Bruce: I don't like how you keep interrupting this nice, polite man Owen. Where are your manners? Owen: Sorry, I just get a little overexcited. Bruce: You always did have that. I'm sorry my brother keeps talking over you Rickin. He does have very good manners, I've seen it. He's really very complimentary of you. Rickin: Your brother is not- Owen: I know it's not normal. I'm just excited my older brother is here! Sorry... Bruce: We're going to have to talk about this Owen. My apologies Rickin, I have to remind my kid brother about how to be respectful. Bruce herds Owen off, starting what looks like a brotherly talk, with Owen trying to explain himself. Rickin: (Spanish) I honestly don't know how to tell Bruce Hart what his brother has been up to. Hugo: It doesn't look like Owen is going to give you that opportunity... Rickin: It doesn't. Hopefully somebody will be able to talk to Bruce without his brother around. Barrabas is leading Jonathan Boyd and the Crusher out to the ring and getting an earful from this crowd. Hugo: He's looking more confident after his team's win last week! Rickin: Yes, and he seems like he's back to enjoying the anger of the crowd. Hugo: Well, come people feed off the crowd one way, others in a different way. Rickin: Yes, something you excelled at as both a wrestler and a manager. Hugo: Of course I excelled at both! Rickin: Sometimes I wonder if you listen to what I say entirely. Hugo: You know I do! Rickin: And then you use it however it suits you. Hugo: Yes! Rickin: Barrabas must be in a good mood, he hasn't ordered Boyd and the Crusher to attack before the bell. Hugo: There is a time for that kind of thing. But there is also a time to show that you can win a match within the rulebook too. Rickin: I would call that most of the time. Referee Tomas Marin called for the bell and the match is starting. Los Assassins (1 & 3) vs. Jonathan Boyd & the Crusher Boyd starts off the match and isolates Assassin 1 in the Boyd/Crusher corner. Boyd and the Crusher work tags back and forth before putting away Assassin 1 with Boyd's three point stance clothesline. Jonathan Boyd and the Crusher by pinfall in 4:58 with a three point stance clothesline Rickin: Good teamwork shown by Boyd and the Crusher. Hugo: Textbook tag team wrestling! Rickin: Barrabas seems happy with his men. When we come back TNT and El Profe will visit Chicky Starr's Sports Shop. Invader 2 will be in action, you don't want to miss it so stay tuned. (Commercial Break) 8:30 - 17:00 Rickin: It's time for Hugo's favorite part of the show. Hugo: Let's go to Chicky's Sports Shop!!! The Sports Shop intro plays and we cut to Victor on the Sports Shop set with a microphone. Victor (wooden): It is my pleasure to introduce the hottest wrestler and manager in the World Wrestling Council. Ladies and gentlemen, here is the most exciting, most charismatic, best dressed man in Puerto Rico, Chicky Starr. Chicky comes on set wearing athletic gear. He is carrying his WWC Caribbean Tag Team Championship over his shoulder and sits down after picking up a mic. Chicky: Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to begin tonight's show by letting you all know that the World Wrestling Council has weaseled out of the legal trouble they ought to be in for pre-empting my show two weeks ago. No matter, the low ratings for that show should be enough of a reason the WWC NEVER does that again! Speaking of low ratings, last week my guest was a real downer and I can only make it up to you by having a good guest this week. My guests this week are always welcome in the Sports Shop, El Profe and TNT. Profe and TNT sit down, Profe grabbing a microphone. El Profe: I can't imagine what it must be like having to carry on a conversation, or try to, with Ricky Santana. Chicky: Painful is the word that comes to mind. Profe: Sounds right to me. Chicky: Speaking of painful, I'd guess that you are now aware of how dangerous a man like Gama Singh is. Profe: Yes, I underestimated him and he got the better of myself and TNT. The only way he could get a win over TNT, but it's hardly anything to worry about. Chicky: I know Gama Singh and I doubt he's all too thrilled with a win by disqualification. He's going to want another fight. Profe: If he does want a fight, then he'll find it. TNT is not one to stand for a man like Gama Singh trying to embarass him like that. Chicky: I'd say Gama Singh is a tough opponent and a loss to him is no black mark on anyone's record. Profe: Regardless, I know TNT can beat the man in a fair fight and I'm willing to prove it. I am willing to be suspended in a cage above the ring while the two fight to ensure no interference on my part. And if Gama Singh wins he gets 5 minutes in the ring with me as a reward. Chicky: I'm not sure that last part is a good idea. Gama Singh is more interested in beating you up than TNT. Profe: I respect your opinion, but trust me when I say this is exactly what I want. Chicky: I can only hope you don't end up like Al Madril. That's going to be all for this week in the Sports Shop. We have another great show for you next week when my cousin Ronnie stops by and we talk about our next challengers for these (holds up the belt). I've seen who is in that match and I am not too worried. It's time for Ric Flair - I think I know how to make that opening a little better. Profe: Why you worry about something like that I don't know. Chicky: Little things matter in presentation. Hit the sign-off. Ric Flair's sign-off plays as Profe, TNT and Chicky walk off set. Rickin: Quite the challenge by El Profe. Hugo: I'm starting to wonder if he's as smart as he thinks he is. Rickin: I guess we'll have to see if Gama Singh takes the match to find out. Hugo: He will! Rickin: I'm pretty sure of that myself. Invader 2 is getting a great reaction on his way to the ring. Hugo: These people love their Invaders.. Rickin: They will continue to do so as long as los Invaders fight men like los Pastores. Hugo: I don't know if I'd call them men. I've managed the Monster! The Machine! Abdullah the Butcher- Rickin: I'm not sure I'd be shouting about that right now. Hugo: I-er-yes, I've managed men who could very easily be called savages before. And I'm not sure los Pastores don't belong in that same group as some of my clients in the past. Rickin: That's a fair point. They don't seem to be overly interested in winning matches. Hugo: Again, a lot like a certain client of mine. Rickin: Yes, that and the seeming need to hurt their opponents is another thing in common. Hugo: Yes! Rickin: The fact that los Invaders and Carlitos Colon are willing to fight those men and prove that Puerto Rico can triumph over them makes them fan favorites. Hugo: I can see that. Rickin: It looks like ring announcer Eliud Gonzalez has finished introductions and we're ready for action. Domingo Robles vs. Invader 2 Invader 2 shows no signs of his still wrapped left arm hurting him even after Robles briefly targets it. He stuns Robles with a big left hook before hitting a double throat chop that puts Robles down for the 3 count. Invader 2 by pinfall in 4:12 with a double throat chop Rickin: Invader 2 showing no signs of his injury lingering. Hugo: He will need to be at 100% against los Pastores! Rickin: Yes he will. They are incredibly dangerous. We'll be back with Huracan Castillo Jr. and Miguelito Perez at the desk and in the ring. Don't touch that dial. (Commercial Break) 17:00 - 25:00 Rickin: Welcome back fans. Joining me now are two very confident young men, Huracan Castillo Jr. and Miguelito Perez. It;s taken you two a while, but you seem to have found your stride. Perez: I don't know that we're there yet Rickin. Castillo: We've got plenty to work on, something our fathers and friends have been making sure we remember these last few weeks. Rickin: I can imagine that after your big win a few weeks back they are trying to keep you focused on the right things. Castillo: Absolutely they are. There is something that Mike Davis and Tommy Lane have been talking to us about though. Perez: Yeah, they say we need a name for this team now that we have established ourselves. Castillo: We kicked around a few ideas, then we ran them by a few people. One of them got the best reaction from everyone we talked to. Perez: From now on you can call us the Caribbean Express! Rickin: A very fitting name for the two of you if you ask me. You are aware that your friends the Rock and Roll RPMs are involved in a match to determine the next challengers for the Caribbean Tag Team Championships tonight. Any comments? Perez: Los Super Medicos are also our friends. I'd like to see either team as champions over Ron and Chicky Starr. Castillo: Yeah, those two are a disgrace to the WWC and shouldn't be anywhere near any of the gold. Rickin: Perhaps you two belong in the conversation about new challengers for the Starrs as well. Castillo: That has been suggested to us a few times, and anytime the WWC feels we are ready we won't say no. But as we said right away, there is still plenty for us to work on and we have some unfinished business with los Mercenarios. Perez: Like Huracan said, we would welcome any chance to take those belts off of the Starrs. But if you remember los Mercenarios were the reason the Starrs got past us to win those belts and we haven't forgotten! Castillo and Perez work towards the ring as the crowd cheers and tries to get close to the two young Puerto Ricans. Rickin: There go two fired up young men. Hugo: I like the team name! Rickin: It seems like the right time for it as well. Hugo: Yes! They established themselves as a top team with their victory in Roberto Clemente Stadium and it's a good time for them all-around. Rickin: Along with Ricky Santana I'd say those two havve really made an impression on the fans lately. Hugo: I would also say that nobody should take them lightly because of their youth. We both saw what happened with Boyd and the Crusher! Rickin: Yes we did. Both teams are in the ring for our next bout, there is the bell. Los Tejanos vs. the Caribbean Express Castillo and Perez use their usual quick tags and smooth teamwork to control the match. A short comeback by Tejano 2 is cut off by a Castillo dropkick. He tags in to Perez, who hits a big powerslam for the 3 count. The Caribbean Express by pinfall in 5:15 with a powerslam Rickin: Castillo and Perez seem to be on a roll of late. Hugo: Confidence can do that for you! Rickin: Yes it can. It's good to see two young men putting it all together without taking shortcuts. Up next I'll be talking with Ricky Santana before our main event. Los Super Medicos and the Rock and Roll Express will be competing to decide who faces los Primos Starr on July 5th. You don't want to miss it. (Commercial Break) 25:00 - 33:00 Rickin: Fans we have a treat for you tonight. Ricky Santana has joined me at the desk with his WWC Light Heavyweight Title. I haven't had the chance to properly congratulate you on winning that belt. Santana: Thank you Rickin. And thank you to all of these great fans for their support. I couldn't have done it without that. I've enjoyed traveling around Puerto Rico defending this belt in front of the people. Rickin: It's good to see you a little more relaxed now that you've gotten your win over Owen Hart. Santana: It is a weight off my shoulders for sure. Rickin: A lot was said last week about how you beat Hart and gained that title. Santana: By all the wrong people. I don't think Chicky Starr or Owen Hart have anything to say worth listening to about how to win a match cleanly. Rickin: I'll definitely agree with that. Owen Hart has certainly cleaned up his act since his brother Bruce arrived. Santana: You noticed that too. He can try to play nice for his brother as much as he likes, but once competition gets tough enough he'll go back to his old ways. Rickin: He seems to be avoiding that as well as any kind of dialogue about his actions. Santana: He won't be able to avoid it next week. I made a call to a friend I made recently and the WWC signed the match. Owen and Bruce Hart against myself and somebody I'm sure Owen Hart will be pleased to see in Puerto Rico. Rickin: I'm curious as to who that partner is. Santana: I'm going to leave that for next week, I think you and all of these fans here and on TV will be pleasantly surprised. Thanks for your time Rickin. Rickin: And thank you for yours Ricky. Santana leaves the interview area and Rickin heads back around the desk. Hugo: I wonder who it is! Rickin: As do I. We'll have to wait until next week to find out. Hugo: I have some ideas who it might be! Maybe- Rickin: Let's allow Ricky Santana to have his surprise. Hugo: Okay, but I'm not sure that's fair to Owen... Rickin: I don't care much for how fair something is to Owen Hart at this point. The man is willing to blatantly lie to his own brother. Hugo: There is that.. Rickin: Here come the Rock and Roll RPMs to a very good reaction from the crowd. Hugo: Maybe I should have made friends with los Invaders and Colon... Rickin: Are you suggesting that the RPMs are only popular with the fans because they are friends with los Invaders and Colon? Hugo: It doesn't hurt. Rickin: I'm sure it doesn't, but ask yourself this. With the way you wrestled and managed would the crowd have stayed behind you? Would los Invaders and Colon have remained your friends? Hugo: Depends when I decided to play dirty!! Rickin: I....you may have a point there. But the Rock and Roll RPMs have carried themselves well, worked hard and entertained the fans while winning. I believe that is why the crowd loves them. Hugo: Maybe.. Rickin: We'll have to disagree on that. Los Super Medicos are on their way out to the ring now and I think we can both agree they have earned the crowd's respect. Hugo: Yes, they have been a top tag team in Puerto Rico for years. They have even held the Caribbean Tag Team Titles in the past! Rickin: Even through the personnel change to Super Medico 3 alongside Super Medico 1 they have remained a threat within the tag division, which is a tough thing to do. Hugo: Super Medico 1 is a veteran and a formidable singles wrestler, so it only makes sense that he would be able to make the team work with a different partner. Rickin: I'd say the one worry for los Super Medicos is that their teamwork may not be on the level of the Rock and Roll RPMs. Hugo: Yes! Also, I wonder which team is going to star taking shortcuts just to get the chance at the Starrs! Rickin: I don't think either team will feel the need to resort to underhanded tactics to win. Referee Victor Quinonez just called for the bell. The Rock 'n' Roll RPMs vs. Los Super Medicos The match goes back and forth between the teams with the RPMs showing their advantage in teamwork with quicker tags when they are in control. Things get a little heated and Medico 1 is able to take control of the match for his team, but a miscommunication between los Super Medicos allows Lane to roll up Medico 2 for the 3 count. The Rock and Roll RPMs by pinfall in 12:47 with a rollup Rickin: It looks like the Rock and Roll RPMs will be facing the Starrs on July 5th. There is a handshake after the match between the teams. Hugo: I know you like when that happens! Rickin: It shows that the loser of the match has some respect for their opponents and the fans. Losing is a part of wrestling and being able to deal with it like an adult is important. Hugo: So you just roll over... Rickin: No, you train more and come back better next time. Hugo: I know, just playing with you! Rickin: You do enjoy doing that now and again. We're almost out of time for this week. Next week Dutch Mantell will be back on the program after his intense brawl with Hangman Bobby Jaggers. Hugo: And Ricky Santana will have a surprise partner against Owen and Bruce Hart! Rickin: Be sure to tune in, we'll see you next week fans.
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I think the term "credibility" within the wrestling business is a little suspect in general. My guess would be that there are credible sources about wrestling and wrestling personalities. But they are credible about the places they have been and people they have spent time with, not everything. I enjoy listening to Jim Cornette talk about the territory days and share all of his detailed information on the places he has been. But as much as I agree with his view on modern wrestling, I think he should stick to not being a grumpy old bastard and talk about what he knows. At least most of the time, sometimes he's hilarious when he starts ranting. Nash seems like a guy who gets the business and understands why decisions are made. But he also seems to know the missteps he made and more than willing to cover his own ass. And he gets real bitter about wrestling not in his wheelhouse getting praise. Also, I wonder if he realizes his time on top in the WWF (his fault or not) was a real low point in the company's history. Yes, he drove ratings way up in WCW along with Hall and Hogan, but he could be a lot more honest with himself on the Dielsel run. All that being said, I find him to be very engaging and knowledgeable so I will watch him talk about wrestling. It's all going to come down to personal taste in the end and maybe you don't like cutting through Bruce Prichard's BS. I listened to him talk about the Montreal screwjob and I could care less what he has to say about much afterwards. I also have little care for Vince's views on wrestling as they run counter to mine in just about every way. So I probably won't be listening. I don't come down on the side of Meltzer either. A lot of the wrestling he loves doesn't do much for me.
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Wisk- I mean DeBeers coming after Sarge is great. Adams will be flying solo soon. Spivey and Rotundo against the Varsity Club has a lot of promise. Douglas gets a big win over a Guerrero, but I imagine there is payback on the way in a tag or six-man. Loved the intro for Sabu and he's in an environment where he will thrive.
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A few things here. I doubt jdw was run off by JvK. Both could be very divisive posters admittedly, but both had a lot to add to the discussion that ought to be appreciated even by their detractors. Something I would also say about shodate. The grammar and mayb-maybe-not-trolling won't be missed, but he had some odd match choices that did add to the flavor of the site. And I would also say that we very much have a new generation of significant posters on the side of modern pro wrestling and older pro wrestling than we had even 3 years ago. Regardless of the reasons for it, people like jdw, JvK and Dylan to name a few have mostly moved on. I would hope that in the future some of those in the newer generation who needed to show up at every turn compounding the shodate problem (if I'm honest, there was a problem there, not sure how big) learned from this experienced and handle it better in the future. Sad to see Magnum take a break, because I like the British wrestling more than a bit myself and always enjoyed his takes on it. And finally, we should all be glad that Loss is as understanding and willing to give chances as he is. Otherwise I'm sure we'd have a much smaller board with less to offer.
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I liked Tui coming in to avenge his loss a lot. Brown Sugar against the Assassin would have been a fun match. Backlund vs. Rheingans is one of the better undercard feuds going on right now. Duggan winning the main is a great way to send the fans home happy.
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I liked the TV with the Bar Room Brawlers getting themselves a new name and a couple of marquee matches that extend storylines. You also set up a couple of amazing tag matches with probably the biggest threat to the Roadies so far in Abby/Singh as a team. Dibiase's promo hit all the right notes and he is really making his mark in Flair's absence. Kernodle attacking Kirchner in Canada is a perfect way to cap off the heel turn. St. Clair and Singh is a good clash of styles feud. Who is going to get the big boost (and really tough feud that comes with it) of beating Bundy for the $10k? Midnights come in and put Hot Property over even while they win, which is I think why they are the champs in the first place. Johnson gives Teddy all he can handle, but comes up short. I like Rocky Johnson as a just below main event level face that can threaten all of the heels on the roster.
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Great promo by the Horsemen. Good to see a TV title come into play with all that midcard talent around. Making the Flair/Hogan match Hogan's last shot is a really good idea to make the match big. Rockers vs. Power and Glory should be a fun feud that hopefully gets both teams over.