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how many workers can you have seen 100% of there matches ad they have never had a match under **** and realism trumps versatility 100% of the time to many people who finshed above him show ot mean strings in there work epaclly in there mart work and or strikes I couldn't say that for anyone even Volk Han. He's never had a bad match, but I could probably make that case for Bret Hart and he certainly isn't the greatest in my book either. I disagree on the realism trumps versatility point. Volk Han does shoot style brilliantly, but I would rather watch a Kobashi/Funk/Danielson match over his 9/10 because I can expect something different in most matches. nope realism helo buy into the work what does verrslity do
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[2018-02-12-WAVE] Misaki Ohata vs Arisa Nakajima
shodate replied to donsem43's topic in February 2018
th wave net work and wager soon the womens wrestling japan yt channel- 3 replies
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- Misaki Ohata
- Arisa Nakajima
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matches like this show Inoki was better worker than baba was hands down
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i hate squash matches so the usos win over the sst in that aera
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i love a good debate so if an y one needs one im here
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i cannot see any bad by product that could come from this from this
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all new japan is right now is all japan of the 1990's with lesser worker thye no long use strong style they use kings road style
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how many workers can you have seen 100% of there matches ad they have never had a match under **** and realism trumps versatility 100% of the time to many people who finshed above him show ot mean strings in there work epaclly in there mart work and or strikes
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what by-product?
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I never said they suck not once i said based on what i have seen of them there as good as people say read my system all my system is based on observable things ie not Something Intangible Like Realism and execution of the offence and technique and technical skill visibly tangible things i also Judge matches based upon this system hence why i have nuclear heat in some other places based on my view of some famous matches in other places iv done topics on comparing and ratings famous workers using my system Russohiiles[ people who think like russo] hate me yes but why you mention nuclear heat and Russoholes it kils u gimmick and because they dont exhibit these types here? not proper lexicon and b-sides goldlust and jerry blsckwell, lawler, or vahn Erik are all the sum of hour fan. Favorites. hence hy i said other places that i dount i will not get here
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best us worker of the 1970's based on what i have seen of him and then his Japan stuff in the 80's also top level but do not aged as well as say Fujiwara has honestly Fujiawra had the match of the yesr last year vs Suzuki and the age of 68 and only the 2nd ***** match of the past 8 years for mr the 1990's was the golden age five ir six promotions putting high quilty stuff on consistent basis yes but i like dory but she sould hang them up
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Still had a pro wrestling career before an MMA career. Widely considered to be one of the best, if not the best, at his style (which having a sambo background surely helped). Not that Ronda can't become great at pro wrestling, but to say that she doesn't need training is nuts. im not talking baout mma or not mma i talking about there key arts simple as that Sayama was Kickboxer before a pro wrester his last kick boxing match was june of 1980 he was National Champion he transitioned fine his called on the job traning Han did that as did all the RINGS Sambists and Doleman the best Dtuch worker is RINGS who was what else but a Judoka or look at bad news or even Karalin in his only ever worked match
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Yes, Han being a one of a kind talent and being a pro wrestler before having an actual MMA career surely means Ronda should not be trained. he was a top levle grappler based on back ground alone Combat Sambo is a hard art ad he was good at the Ronda being a judoka a very mucj grapple based art are you are Ronda was nay sort of top level Striker the Fighr with Holm beg tp differ and Sambo beta Judo i say that having practine both in my time
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Yes, Han being a one of a kind talent and being a pro wrestler before having an actual MMA career surely means Ronda should not be trained. he was a top levle grappler based on back ground alone Combat Sambo is a hard art ad he was good at the Ronda being a judoka a very mucj grapple based art
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I get it you're a big fan of WAR? i was indeed that mainly becuase i liked hara and tenryu
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My biggest gripe with this realism narrative is that a simple Irish whip pretty much kills any sense of realism. im talking about realism in mat work or strikes ie stuff you would see in a real fight Even then, there's a lot of matwork in pro-wrestling that obviously doesn't work/wouldn't work in a real fight. That reminds of this clip from JRE: If you stick to that narrative, then not even shoot style would work for you as a lot of the matwork in shoot style doesn't make sense, is poorly executed, etc. Volk han trained fedor the best MMA Fighter ever make sense is different to looking realistic who has better mat work[ie more realistic mat work bret hart or Volk han who has better more realtisc looking/feeling strikes someone like a Kansai or some like a Trish note picked trish becuase one of her finishes is a Kick who has better ie more realistic mat work benoit or tamura what looks more reailisc benot vs angle or han vs Tamura im talking about opt the untained eye why i like realism so much 2 two fold 1 im wrestling fan who as trained in Sambo Judo and Jujutsu and Karate 2 since it for help for me to bye into the work when it comes ot strikes in the mainstme promotion like wwe wcw and like even all Japan in the golden times New japan was better at this but srtikeing techqinue was shit good techqiniue is good to making a worked strike look real sekking i has nothing ot do with it selling a week looking strike one with poor technique makesa worker look week my main isuue with HBK is that too and with superkick in general [ super kicks are just basic side trust kick] toany one in and Strike based art do you lean out of your kicks ie pull the y will point and laugh any one who ever sold the sweet chin muisc looked week as shit stuff like aja's uraken or Nakajima r15 have good techinque so look more realistic even if its pulled strike this was why i will never rate rock austin or hbk as top level workers vander on the other hand is in my [my top 300 at around 250 why because of tthe simple fact the camera help cover his poor technique ot make his punches feel real so earer fir me to buy as real Dunns camera work never helped HBKs either cuase it showed you how much he leaned out pulling and leaning are two very different thing some pulling is needed in a work leaning out is bad technique this is also why i think ronda should not need ot be trained cuase volk was never and look at how good he was
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My biggest gripe with this realism narrative is that a simple Irish whip pretty much kills any sense of realism. im talking about realism in mat work or strikes ie stuff you would see in a real fight
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I never said they suck not once i said based on what i have seen of them there as good as people say read my system all my system is based on observable things ie not Something Intangible Like Realism and execution of the offence and technique and technical skill visibly tangible things i also Judge matches based upon this system hence why i have nuclear heat in some other places based on my view of some famous matches in other places iv done topics on comparing and ratings famous workers using my system Russohiiles[ people who think like russo] hate me
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my system as no biases i judge on what every person watching eyes can see if wrestling was audio-based art like Music i would say use audio elements to judge i Judge workers based on what i can see and what most people can see even if they do not wish to do so stuff like realism
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my native language does not really have spacing system and or a system of capitalization at all minus that i like you to comment on what on what i write now how i do would be nice
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the whole its a different time idea is stupid hence why my rating system is full proof more so than the system say people like parv and alot fo others on this site use base on the GWE pods iv listen to and iv Listen to all of them good art and good wrestling is time less
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are they a crush gals levels tv ratings draw i mean in the us im compare ot what the Gals were in japan? yes i know us and japanese tv ratings work differently but Japanese ones are more simple its done has % of total population so i wil use the Japanese system iwich is more simple so are the uso capable of drawing a 10.00 or even 5,00 in ring style wise ie realism Technique execution and work rate are they as good as say a Misawa /Kobashi like team im sorry bt i just od not see it
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none, in particular, has was just in so consistent