Grimmas

Criteria is vague still. If something isn't a draw, you don't think it belongs in, you don't vote for it. The problem when you start to separate by area is it gets really messy. You have shit like Puerto Rico, England, India, or whatever all crammed together or really tiny regions where it's super easy to get in. Of course we are open to change and for suggestions.

I hope people still have interest in this. Earlier this year, I contacted Chad about getting this project off the ground. Since he was too busy, he gave me the go ahead to help get it running. Since January, Elliott, CapitalTTruth, and myself have been debating rules, formats, and nominations. We have got input from many smart people to make sure it all makes sense and I am happy to announce here, that we are ready to put this thing out in the fall of this year! We have our set of nominations, but we won't release those yet. Maybe this thread can sway us? One thing we did decide is that a match has to be 25 years old to be nominated. That puts us at matches that are 1992 or earlier for the first year. Yes, the plan is for it to be a yearly thing like the WON HOF. It will have the same format, 60% get in, 15% to stay on the list (or whatever WON uses). The big discussion point was on format of regions. We argued that for months, until we found a system we are pretty happy with. Region A: Matches not on tape Region B: Matches for which their main argument is on importance Region C: Matches for which their main argument is quality Of course, people can vote any way they like. Same as in WON, just because Steve Williams is in the Japan category, doesn't mean his USA stuff doesn't count. I'd love to hear people's thoughts, what they think the nominations should be, and any ideas here before we roll this out in the fall.

The first one had that 4.5 star great great great Rhodes Brothers vs Shield match where they got their job back and Dusty was in their corner, at least.

I really really hate WWE forgetting they are an international company and go into full USA the best, fuck everybody else mode. I fell asleep. Woke up for the Fashion X Files which was the best thing on the show so far. Bennett vs Generico is on now, and the way the announcers hate love is pretty sad too. This company sometimes. Loved the tag at least.

Demolition. Hart Foundation. That's it, I think.

I'm so glad this show is continuing.

Fuck them. I'm so excited for this tournament. There was a lot of talent they didn't use that I know are awesome, and a lot of people in this tournament I don't know, so it could go either way. Would have really loved Deonna Purrazzo in it, as I think she's really under rated. Glad they used people like Mercedes and Mia Yim, who have been killing it on the indies for years.

First ppv I get to watch all the way live this year.... lucky me! Actually it all looks solidish enough.

so, this is coming out on the Nintendo Switch, which means I could actually get it... but will I? Did the fix the Universe mode yet? Last time I played (like 2k15?) they would just book the same match on every show for a storyline.

Of course, WM7 being the biggest example.

Bayley needed to ve built up as an underdog.

Didn't you hate great match theory? yes

Charlotte had some of the best matches last year and in WWE history with Sasha. I love The Miz, but the matches never met that level. By great match theory, Charlotte wins.

World Wide March 6, 1993 Taped on February 16, 1993 in Dothan, Alabama @ Civic Center Hosted By: Tony Schiavone & Jesse Ventura 1. Van Hammer defeated Vinnie Vegas in a left-handed arm wrestling challenge. Jesse Ventura emceed the event. After the contest, Vegas attacked Hammer with the table. 2. Davey Boy Smith pinned Mustafa Saed with the Running Powerslam at 2:27 3. Maxx Payne defeated Chris Sullivan via submission with the Pain Killer. 4. WCW TV Championship Tournament: Vinnie Vegas defeated Van Hammer via forfeit after the physician ruled Hammer could not compete following the attack Hammer received earlier in the show. 5. Steve Austin & Brian Pillman defeated Too Cold Scorpio & Marcus Alexander Bagwell when Pillman pinned Bagwell after Austin attacked Bagwell behind the referee's back as Bagwell had Pillman in the Fisherman Suplex. Note: This show was planned prior to the hiring of time traveling Grimmas.

Saturday Night February 27, 1993 Two and a Half Hour Special Taped February 23, 1993 in Atlanta, GA @ Center Stage Theatre Hosted by Tony Schiavone & Jesse Ventura Show opens with a highlight video from SuperBrawl focusing on Vader vs Sting, the debut of the British Bulldog, and Ric Flair's return. Tony Schiavone & Jesse Ventura welcome us to the show. They talk about SuperBrawl III then mention that Flair will address WCW tonight! The main event has Barry Windham defending his newly won NWA World Title against Brad Armstrong. Shangahi Pierce & Tex Slazenger defeated Keith & Kent Cole at 6:13 when Pierce pinned Keith. A limo is shown pulling up to the arena and Ric Flair gets out, he is coming up later tonight! Too Cold Scorpio pinned Scotty Flamingo at 6:55 with a 450 Splash. Tony Schiavone conducted an interview with Arn Anderson in which he said he had been apathetic, but Erik Watts mad that part of him die at the gas station in Charlotte. He spoke highly of Flair, NWA World Champion Barry Windham, Steve Austin, & Brian Pillman. Anderson then noted that the “eagle had flown the coop” and Erik Watts was left alone to deal with him. Anderson then said he had a cramping in his hand and didn’t know if it meant anything or not, then held up the sign of the Four Horsemen. “Flyin’” Brian Pillman & “Stunning” Steve Austin defeated Tom Zenk & Johnny Gunn with Austin pinned Zenk at 9:43 after Pillman hit a clothesline off the top rope behind the referee’s back as Zenk had Austin covered with a roll up. A video is shown from backstage at SuperBrawl where Cornette and The Heavenly Bodies are pissed about losing to The Rock ‘n’ Roll Express. Bobby Eaton is there and he and Pritchard are arguing. Cornette says they will get revenge and cooler heads prevail. “The British Bulldog” Davey Boy Smith pinned Sgt. Buddy Lee Parker at 3:33 with the Running Powerslam. Marcus Alexander Bagwell pinned Mike Thor with the Fisherman Suplex at 3:29. Maxx Payne defeated Lightning Kid via submission with the Pain Killer at 4:11 “The Nature Boy” Ric Flair, the new WCW Commissioner, comes to the ring to address the WCW audience. He talks about how great it is to be back in WCW. Flair will make sure WCW is the best wrestling promotion in the world. He plugs the WCW tour in Europe in March and the airing of the WCW/New Japan Super Show on pay-per-view as evidence. More international talent will be arriving in WCW as well. He makes a few rule changes, first throwing someone over the top rope is no longer a DQ, as is coming off the top rope to the face. Flair says that on the March 13th episode of Saturday Night, The Rock ‘n’ Roll Express will get a WCW/NWA World Tag Team Titles match against Ricky Steamboat & Shane Douglas, since they were so impressive at SuperBrawl. He then asks where all the women in WCW are? Flair then brings out Madusa who cuts a short promo about showing every other women in wrestling that she is the best. Flair says WCW will scour the world for all the best talent to face her. Ricky Steamboat & Shane Douglas defeated The Wrecking Crew when Steamboat pinned Rage at 6:35. Vinnie Vegas pinned Terry Travis with Snake Eyes at 3:43. Eric Bischoff hosting a segment running down the WCW World Television Title Tournament. The Barbarian pinned Rip Rogers with the boot to the face at 5:32. Steve Regal & Erik Watts defeated Chris Sullivan & Bob Cook at 5:08 when Sullivan submitted to Watts' STF. During the bout, Watts received several chants of "Erik sucks!" and "Daddy's boy" from the crowd. Backstage, Missy Hyatt interviews Steve Austin & Brian Pillman. They are pissed about not being given a title shot. Flair’s first decision was horrible, he better not screw up again. NWA World Heavyweight Title Match: Champion Barry Windham pinned Brad Armstrong at 9:17 with the jumping DDT after avoiding the side Russian Legsweep by grabbing the ring rope.

Last night was at the Field Trip music festival and A Tribe Called Red was playing. An amazing native DJ group, anyways on the screen behind them they have various clips looped of natives in film and such. At one point they looped the Ultimate Warrior running on the apron with a weasel suit for 30 seconds to a minute, then followed it up with Warrior dancing in the ring with the weasel suit. It was pretty surreal.

If we're allowed to count pre-Hogan era, I got your back. I love that Eddie Gilbert angle so much! Seems like it goes back to Capital Wrestling so Masked Superstar and Machine eras count.

Just realized I'll be the high vote on both Earthquake and Boss Man!

So Heenan, Fuji, Albano, Valiant stay on, while other managers drop off. That seems fair.

Oh Jesus. Yeah, of all the women she's the one who could pull it off. Good talker and quick thinker and solid wrestling mind. God damn, why did this never happen. She was smart enough to leave wrestling.

I like this a lot. Really the best talent you could grab at the time in good roles.

Without thinking about this much, yet. Bret, Hammer, Savage, and Cena are lukely my top 4. Ax is going way too high on my list.

I always thought Trish would be a great colour person for some reason.

World Wide February 27, 1993 Taped on February 9, 1993 in Gainesville, GA @ Georgia Mountains Center Hosted By: Tony Schiavone & Jesse Ventura Paul Orndorff pinned Bobby Baker with a piledriver. Vinnie Vegas pinned Rob Morgan with the Snake Eyes. Maxx Payne defeated Johnny B. Badd via submission with the Pain Killer @ 1:51. After the bout, officials tended to Badd after Payne kept the move applied. WCW Television Title Tournament Opening Round: Robbie V pinned Shanghai Pierce with a standing moonsault. Ricky Steamboat, Shane Douglas, & The Rock ‘n’ Roll Express fought Steve Austin, Brian Pillman, & The Heavenly Bodies (with Jim Cornette & Bobby Eaton) to a double DQ at 10:14 when all eight men began brawling in and out of the ring and Cornette was thrown in the ring by Gibson. Note: This show was taped prior to the hiring of time travelling Grimmas.

In ring or adding importance and other stuff in?