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Vince was going to try something to change things up. 99 TV was the worst, so that is Russo with his most power and most influence. I really doubt Russo had anything to do with Hart Foundation-Austin, which was the real turn around in creative. Austin-McMahon was mostly Austin and McMahon. New stars were coming in like Edge, Test, and Val Venis, who may had got more over if they didn't have shitty gimmicks. If Vince Russo stayed in a video game store, WWF still would had turned it around and become the biggest company because they had Austin and The Rock. Vince was also desperate and was going to change things up. I don't see how Russo is anything special in the WWF turn around. Just look at any time he had control (WWF in 99, WCW in 99-2000, TNA) and it's complete and utter shit.

Great! I've already got outlines down for potential booking and draft strategies. As it stands, without making any protection picks, am I right to think that my roster already contains Turner plus all announcers/commentators and referees? Correct.

Awesome! Any more Japanese promotion takers? There is WAR, All Japan Women's, UWFI, Big Japan, JWP, WING, and IWA Japan all still available. Only major USA promotions left are APW and IWA-MS with any indie people want. Plus all of Puerto Rico. I will get rosters, more game rule ideas and everything out this weekend.

Forcing protections... that is a good question. Hogan is in WCW, but really can only go to WCW, NJPW or WWF. Not protecting him only really gives two other promotions chances... not sure what is best for this. Lex Luger is still on WWF's list as of September 1st. Booking rules no. However, would like people to play within guidelines of promotions. Like I don't want to see coffin angles in AJPW or mega stars (Hogan) in death matches on a small indie. Obviously there is room in between that. However, say WCW wants to dumb Dungeon of Doom and focus more on international sports based booking, that is obviously cool. Just want anything too insane. Pretend your owner is who your owner is, for the most part that should get rid of any problems. Turner Broadcasting has certain demands, follow those type of deal. Company relationships can start as is, but if the NJPW and WCW bookers don't want to work together, then so be it. I think try to follow schedules is good, really WCW and WWF only sat out a few a year, so shouldn't be a big deal. However if WCW wants more Clashes or if ECW wants to ran the ECW arena less or whatever, that is up to them. We want everybody to have fun, but nobody to fall too behind. Indies falling behind can close up easily and just re-open with another name. If you are super busy one week there is no harm on saying "Raw on Monday had nothing major happen, except the announced this match for Surivvor Series". Stuff like that is way better than falling behind.

By 1 non-wrestler, are you talking about announcers or other folks in general? Managers essentially. I think we will keep announcers and referees as is. Might need to rethink keepers, especially if Japan is involved.

No. The nWo was a great invasion angle and they used Hall & Nash, which would be equivalent to DDP & Booker T. They had the talent, just they didn't do it right at all.

This is a great start-date (maximum potential for deviation). I'm pumped up! Also, if I read you correctly, Eric Bischoff is locked in for me? Or Ted Turner? Come to think of it, for the purposes of the game, will I be in control of just WCW or TBS itself? You'd get Bischoff, Schiavone, etc.... plus Turner, I guess, if you wanted. M-Pro would be amazing. But NJPW, AJPW, FMW, M-Pro is a good start actually. That opens up ECW.

Yeah... Japan needs a minimum of four people (NJPW, AJPW, WAR, and FMW). Remember Japan has way more talent and popularity than USA had at the time. Plus, you aren't really booking angles in Japan, just matches, so it's a different feel too. If there is enough interest though, I could switch to FMW. I know Low Blow is looking at AJPW. If somebody wants WAR, that would open ECW up for others. Lots of promotions in Japan, if that is an interest, just remember Japan is booked different than USA

Really happy that they are trying different things. The backstage desk interviews (on Smackdown) is different than the in ring interviews Raw is doing. I'm really surprised on how they are doing this. SD has been really fun and Dean is less comedy, which means he is AWESOME.

To update, we have (so far, tenatively) Starting September 1st 1995 (conveniently when the MNWs actually started). Scarlet-Left = WCW I Broke Bruno's Neck = WWF Grimmas = ECW Wahoos Leg = SMW toproplepodcast = USWA kevinmcfl = Mason Dixie Wrestling

Compltely man.

IWA-Mid South would be available (it can start a year early) in the Indiana/Kentucky area. Death matches and a huge training ground (Hero, Punk and Cabana came from there). APW in California (Christopher Daniels, Michael Modest prmotion) is available. Outside of that, really any thing could be made. It's indies, pick an area and go for it. we could even open OMEGA with the Hardy Boyz in the Carolina's if that is an interest. Basically though, I'm sure we can find an indie to run an area in the country with monthly shows. I was thinking too, the advantage of the indies would be they get to draft the rookies that debut. It would be a nice constellation prize, for losing talent to bigger promotions from time to time.

Awesome. That is the exact year I was hoping for. By the way, after thinking about it, announcers should probably be linked to their promotions.

The problem with just doing AJPW, is in 95 we need NJPW, WAR, and FMW at the very least. Japan is so loaded at the time, that you would need as many players as in the US.

It looks like Wahoo's Leg might be picking our starting point, based on what promotion he wants. Once he does, we can hash out rules (I have some cool stealing talent ideas) and I can make roster lists. I do think, because the promotions are on tiers (WCW/WWF, ECW/USWA/SMW, others) that we should protect more than one person to start. I'm thinking for protection, everybody gets their owner and then the below for whatever time period we are starting with. Tier 1: WCW/WWF Protect 4 wrestlers and 1 non-wrestler or 3 wrestlers and 2 non-wrestlers. Tier 2: USWA/SMW/ECW Protect 3 wrestlers and 1 non-wrestler or 2 wrestlers and 2 non-wrestlers. Tier 3: Everybody else Protect 3 pieces of talent. Of course, you have the option to not protect anyone. All I want in these protections is to avoid anything insane like Randy Savage headlining a once a month small indie. Are people in agreement with that, or is that me being too picky?

With the draft, I'm sure those indies will be filled with the Godwinns and Smoking Gunns.

Glacier, Wrath and Mortis is what brought me into watching WCW, not the nWo. I thought the whole "Blood Runs Cold" thing was freaking awesome and is a neat way to introduce a whole new division to a company. If they kept it strong long enough, a Glacier vs Goldberg match would had been HUGE!

Anybody who wants to pick up an indie to do about one show a month and wants to do some 90's stuff, check out the Monday Night Wars thread in the booking main section.

Lawler is a great ace and who knows who can slip through the cracks in a draft.

Starting shows with a Sasha Banks promo and a ten minute Sasha match is how every wrestling show should start. Rusev-Reigns is exciting, although I don't like the idea of Rusev losing the title yet.

Japan would be an option, however there is a LOT of promotions in Japan. So, we'd need a few more players to want to do that as well. You'd need AJPW, NJPW atleast covered. Probably a big other company as well. Other thing is tours and how the booking would look like there, but that's a separate issues. More interest is needed to expand out that far.

So far... Scarlet-Left = WCW I Broke Bruno's Neck = WWF Grimmas = ECW Wahoo's Leg = ??? Lots of options for time period. Weekly TV promotions: USWA is available whenever we start (95-2000) SMW is available if we start in 1995. WWC is available whenever we start (95-2000) Monthly show promotions: IWA-MS is available if we start in 96-2000. APW is available whenever we start (95-2000) CZW is available if we start in 99-2000. JAPW is available if we start 97-2000. OMEGA is available if we start 97-2000. Of course other indies starting up is no big deal. One thing I want is for people to play for the promotion they have. If you are WCW/WWF you are the big time. If you are ECW you are the up and coming promotion. If you are an Indy, you are an Indy. Don't really want Hogan in OMEGA or WWF pushing Low Ki in 2000 as their Champion or anything. Of course I would love to start with a draft, probably Sept 1st. How talent moves around is something that needs discussion as well. In 83 most promotions are equal, so trades, re-drafts make sense. In the late 90's, there is no way IWA-MS is stealing talent from the WWF. Will have to figure it out.

Remember picking WCW or WWF means a show up every monday and a ppv once a month

Preferred year? Preferred promotions? There can be weekly tv promotions (WCW, WWF, ECW) and one or two shows a month promotions (Indies). As long as I get one of WCW, WWF, ECW then I'm good.

I've been a big fan of fantasy booking and I have tried to get back into it, but I am unmotivated without the team project that was the 1983 game. I could join up on the '83 game, but it has become something that is of no interest to me. I'm glad people are into it, but the original idea was unsustainable. Due to time period, mostly. What am I proposing? A similar project to the 1983 project, but set in a year between 1996 to 2000. That way you only need three players that have to do weekly tv and a monthly major show in WWF, WCW, and ECW. The rest of the players can have small indies that either do weekly TV or a show once a month. That way there can be more casual and serious players involved in the project. Is there any interest in this? I have ideas for rules and such, but I won't go into that unless we get at least two others (I can take any of the major three).