Grimmas

If WWF is not picked up.. I was looking at Boston, Philly, Detroit and New York City

Yeah, sorry miscommunication between dawho and me. We still have to see if Rain's friend is taking over WWF, Georgia or nobody. As for the towns, we will discuss that after, because there is some interesting stuff based on locations and such.

If he didn't here, then it was a PM. sorry.

New person could still take the WWF. If he doens't then it looks like I will absorb the WWF. I will pick some talent then put the rest out to draft and also release a full schedule for tour dates for October, showing what towns I will be running in. How? Dawho is in line... Dawho does not want to, I am next in line.

We will need an outside source to randomize draft order, because I am letting some big names go

New person could still take the WWF. If he doens't then it looks like I will absorb the WWF. I will pick some talent then put the rest out to draft and also release a full schedule for tour dates for October, showing what towns I will be running in.

If you don't want the WWF, then would it go to the next in line which would be me. To be honest, I wouldn't want too much talent from there and there would be a lot of guys drafted. I can't imagine taking more than 6-10 guys that includes a bunch of jobbers. It would be a neat reversal to real life where in 84 Vince took over Maple Leaf and appointed Tunney president. Maybe in our game Maple Leaf takes over the WWF and gives Vince a cushy president job?

If someone could maybe post the guide on what towns to run. Do we even have coverage in the west? Could we look into those towns if we're near? I'm thinking Nebraska Colorado Nevada Utah. What are the dos and don'tsee on running and expanding in that sense? Post in this section of the board about places nobody is running if you want to run them. Maritimes was open and dawho and i made a deal to even them up. If somebody wants to run Colorado, lets make sure the closest companies agree.

Well, we will see. If dawho absorbs WWF, that leaves New York, Philly and Boston open to run. Maple Leaf Wrestling is a horrible name to run those cities, even though that company is the closest. May need some re-branding.

We just told LowBlow he couldn't move to Georgia to trigger the absorption draft of Mid-South so it wouldn't really be fair to let Grimmas move to WWF and then absorb Toronto. I misread it, that WWF would absorb Toronto in the original plans that is why I proposed it. Stampede ---à (Vancouver / Portland) ---à Toronto ----à Montreal --à New York Is what was proposed, so yeah dawho would absorb WWF if it dies. I thought the line was New York would absorb Toronto if it failed, so hence the proposal.

Very fair, I await your post. My impression was probably wrong.

Hart-Lawler sold out every Monday for years that is a huge draw. He was a big part of TV and it was the highest rate show in maybe wrestling history. As for Hart being the best manager ever, someone like Will has argued it. He believes it, that is why I said it the way I did.

Hart could be argued as the greatest manager ever and him vs Lawler in Memphis was a huge draw for a number of years. He should easily be in, before Cornette and maybe only after Heenan.

Rain's friend will decide tomorrow if he gets WWF or Georiga or neither. From there the proper promotions will get absorbed and a dispersal draft will happen.

Of course. Tomorrow was supposed to be the huge Maple Leaf Gardens show, but the results will be delayed until this situation is settled.

Of course.

If I had a ballot, which I don't, I would vote this way: I FOLLOWED THE HISTORICAL PERFORMERS ERA CANDIDATES: I abstain. I FOLLOWED THE MODERN PERFORMERS IN U.S/CANADA CANDIDATES Bryan Danielson/Daniel Bryan Junkyard Dog Ivan Koloff Sgt. Slaughter I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN JAPAN CANDIDATES I abastain. I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN MEXICO CANDIDATES Brazo de Oro & Brazo de Plata & El Brazo Cien Caras Blue Panther L.A. Park Villano III I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN EUROPE CANDIDATES I abstain. I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN AUSTRALIA/PACIFIC ISLANDS/CARIBBEAN/AFRICA CANDIDATES Carlos Colon NON-WRESTLERS Bill Apter Jim Crockett Jr. Jimmy Hart Jerry Jarrett Stanley Weston

Is there any newcomers left or should we figure out Georgia & WWF situation?

Awesome. That leaves Georgia and WWF if anybody new is coming in?

Yeah I need to to know also, because if Georgia doesn't get picked up, I'll be running those towns. Also who would Memphis now fall too? Memphis to ICW? Well, WWF would do what it did in real life, it would run Toronto. Unless a new person wants to take over the company? Like I said though, I would only take over the WWF if dispersal draft makes it worthwhile. There are certain guys I want to continue with and want their stories to continue. I'm only suggesting this for two reasons. One if WWF closes I would probably be the one running MSG and using the Maple Leaf name in MSG seems strange. Two if Maple Leaf closes then the WWF was supposed to take them over based on the old system.

If the two people want Florida, does either have a second option? I can to a random drawing for Florida, but what are your other options? We will deal with WWF, Gerogia and Memphis (minus the other picked up) once this is decided. Would love for this to be solved this weekend, because it really affects where I am running shows. How many guys can you keep off a roster when it is dispersed out? If I am the one who is going to have to run Madison Square Gardens monthly, would it make sense to do it under the WWF and maybe just take over the WWF and then disband Toronto? On the loop Will made, WWF gets Toronto if it dies. I love my Toronto roster, so if I am keeping enough I may do this.

Maple Leaf Wrestling presents Wrestling Night in Canada September 25, 1983 at Memorial Centre in Peterborough, Ontario The opening video package of Wrestling Night in Canada opens the show featuring clips of: Greg Valentine, Wahoo McDaniel, Stephen Petipas, Jesse Ventura, Ivan Koloff, Leo Burke, Rocky Johnson and ends with a clip of Rick Martel being awarded the NWA Canadian Title. Billy Red Lyons and Jesse "The Body" Ventura welcome us to the show where they immediately go into hype for Tuesday's show in Maple Leaf Gardens. The card is: Main Event for the NWA Canadian Title: Champion Rick Martel vs Riki Choshu Lumberjack Grudge Match: Greg "The Hammer" Valentine vs Wahoo McDaniel Toronto Death Match with Bobby Bass locked in a Shark Cage: Cuban Assassin & Chicky Starr vs Stephen Petipas & Rocky Johnson NWA World LP Champion Little Tokyo vs Haiti Kid Dick Murdoch vs Evil Machine Jerry Brisco vs Joel Deaton Killer Khan in action They talk about the upcoming rematch between Koloff and Burke, but after the break we will be back with Andre the Giant in action! Commercial #1 1. Bobby Bass, Chicky Starr & Cuban Assassin vs Andre the Giant, Stephen Petipas & Rocky Johnson The Cubans cheating like crazy and tried to avoid Andre at all costs. Rocky was busted open again from the ongoing wound from the fireball. After a beat down on him he made the hot tag to Andre who easily disposed of Bass for the win. Winners - Andre the Giant, Stephen Petipas & Rocky Johnson @ 9:05 Commercial #2 We are backstage with Nick McMan who is with Greg Valentine and Don Carson. They don't know who this fake "Super Russian" is, but that is besides the point. Wahoo McDaniel will have to show up in Toronto, no matter his condition and fight Valentine one on one. With lumberjacks at ringside there is nowhere to hide and Valentine will finally put an end to Wahoo. He then proclaimed himself the #1 contender for the NWA Canadian Title after his eventually victory. Commercial #3 2. "The Russian Bear" Ivan Koloff w/ Don Carson vs Leo Burke After a quick start by Burke, Koloff gained the advantage with help from Carson. Koloff went right to work on the back of Burke using a variety of stomps, kneedrops and submissions. They spilled to the outside and Burke was rammed back first into the ring post. Commercial #4 Back from the break and Koloff is playing king of the mountain and is trying for the countout. He finally used the distraction of punching Carson to get back in the ring, but Koloff cut him off and went back to work on the back. After a little while an irish whip by Koloff was received by a leg lariat by Burke. Both men are down. Commercial #5 Burke finally has the advantage and he tries to unload on Koloff, but his back his really hampering his offence. During this moment we get a promo by Rick Martel in the upper corner of the screen talking about facing his toughest challenge in Maple Leaf Gardens against the man who beat him Riki Choshu. He then told Valentine if he wanted a title shot he had to go to the Championship Committee and not just make declarations. As Martel's promo ends Koloff ducks a cross body and Burke flies to the floor. Commercial #6 It looks to be a count out victory for Koloff, but Burke rolls into the ring at the 9 count. After some vicious stomps Koloff clamps on the Bear Hug which seems to signal the end of this great match. Burke seems to be passing out and his arm is raised twice and it falls. On the third time, it barley stays up and Burke using some forearm shots to escape. Koloff was able to nail him with a backbreaker though and then goes to the top for a flying knee drop. However Burke rolls out of the way. An inside cradle by Burke gets two and we are sent into our final commercial break. Commercial #7 Coming out of commercial both men are down and being counted out. At the ten count both men get to their feet and they are apart to go at it again as the bell rings. The time limit expires as the announcers talk about this great match and try to hype the Maple Leaf Gardens show as it goes off the air. Leo Burke & Ivan Koloff fight to a time limit draw @ 41:06 Dark Matches: Killer Khan pinned Nick DeCarlo @ 2:06 Dick Murdoch & Rick Martel def. Greg Valentine & Alexis Smirnoff @ 19:06

Maple Leaf Wrestling September 24, 1983 at Convention Center in Hamilton, Ontario 1. Little Tokyo & Lord Littlebrook def. Haiti Kid & Little Coco @ 7:07 2. Ben Bassarab pinned Gary Royal @ 8:00 3. Killer Khan pinned Tony Garea @ 7:05 4. Buzz Tyler pinned Alexis Smirnoff w/ Don Carson @ 8:50 5. Rocky Johsnon, Stephen Petipas & Leo Burke def. Cuban Assassin, Bobby Bass & Chicky Starr via DQ @ 12:06 6. Dick Murdoch pinned Jesse "The Body" Venture w/ Evil Machine @ 14:21 Maple Leaf Wrestling September 26, 1983 at Oshawa Civic Auditorium in Oshawa, Ontario 1. Haiti Kid pinned Sky Low Low @ 6:02 2. Bobby Bass won a battle royal also featuring: Cuban Assassin, Chicky Starr, Stephen Petipas, Rocky Johnson, Ben Bassarab, Tony Garea, Joel Deaton, Killer Karl Krupp & Jerry Brisco @ 14:06 3. Masa Fuchi pinned Bob Markus @ 5:06 4. Killer Khan pinned Tiger Conway Jr. @ 5:58 5. NWA Canadian Tag Team Champions Greg Valentine & Ivan Koloff def. Leo Burke & Ben Bassarab @ 16:07 6. Rick Martel & Dick Murdoch def. Jesse "The Body" Ventura & Evil Machine @ 16:53

We'll cross that bridge if we have to.

http://placetobenation.com/super-extreme-vault-ecw-cyberslam-99/ Steven, Glenn and Marc are back to enter the ECW arena to talk about ECW’s yearly internet fan convention of Cyberslam ’99! Lots of fun wrestling on this show as this is a massive switch from hardcore wrestling to high spot wrestling. The bottom of the card is all about Tajiri, Jerry Lynn, Super Crazy, Taka Michinoku, etc.. We also see the return of Too Cold Scorpio and the debut of Big Vito! Some really good matches from unsuspected performers. Also, The Undertaker talk returns as we discuss the concept of his gimmick being put on the line in matches. Also, seriously is Taz a heel or a face? Another ridiculous conversation which is veiled in a review of Cyberslam ’99. Join in on the fun here!