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13.09 Canadian! Just got my download and stream copy, what a great value. There will be a review of this on This Week in Wrestlsing podcast coming out a week from Saturday.

Hmm... the next pick you can pick anyone from the next 6 months, just not have them debut until then. Interesting.

Awesome. Which are heel/face?

Looking back with the Hero matches, Joe matches, Cena matches and the Brock match that is a pretty great resume over a long period of time. Not to mention all of the other really good matches and feuds he had. His career is over, which also helps him as there are the people avoiding guys in their prime still. CM Punk is one of my favourite wrestlers ever, so I have a bias, but the resume is there. I think what he has over a lot of modern candidates is the character work put into matches. He does a better job than almost everybody on portraying the story, as opposed to just hitting awesome stuff.

Schultz and Tonga Kid?? Holy shit! Love that. Yeah, I love the Russian work. Seems Mid-Altantic and Maple Leaf are embracing that aspect of the 80's.

Really a great sell for him. I hope he gets more votes than just us two. WWE really could had made him into Rey Jr. in WCW levels of awesome if they wanted. Just hooked a whole division around him as the star. That would had helped his case, but atleast the WWE are fools. Still his Mexico stuff, his American Indie run and his little short Honrswoggle feud gets him on my list. Initially I had him 80, but I might be able to convince myself to put him higher.

Thinking about DDP would he had even got a shot without the Diamond Cutter? I feel like that move was the catalyst for everything and there is no way he sniffs the upper midcard, let alone main event without it.

Any thoughts on the champion. I like Tokyo as the heel cheating his way through everyone, but at some point we will need a big title change to shake things up. Tiger Jackson (future Dink) has had his two shots and lost, so he is out. I think Cowboy Lang, LIttle Coco and Haiti Kid would be the best options. Any thoughts.

Just wanted to start a thread for mini booking. I know they are booked out by the freelancer of the month, but for other thoughts let's put them here. NWA World Champion is Little Tokyo. He is the Ric Flair of the division, cheating to retain his title all over the place. Great worker too. Other heels: Tiny Tom Butch Cassidy Lone Eagle Lord Littlebrook Sonny Boy Hayes Sky Low Low Little Brutus Faces: Cowboy Lang Little Coco The Haiti Kid Tiger Jackson Chilli Bowl Little Beaver No title changes unless authorized by Jack Tunney. We try to treat them with respect, so let's not only use them for comic relief. Comic relief is acceptable of course, but comedy should not always be the main focus. As for the term midget, I went to the Little People of America website and found this: Q: What is a midget? A: In some circles, a midget is the term used for a proportionate dwarf. However, the term has fallen into disfavor and is considered offensive by most people of short stature. The term dates back to 1865, the height of the "freak show" era, and was generally applied only to short-statured persons who were displayed for public amusement, which is why it is considered so unacceptable today. Such terms as dwarf, little person, LP, and person of short stature are all acceptable, but most people would rather be referred to by their name than by a label. Therefore Little Tokyo is now the NWA World LP Champion. Let's refrain from the term midget. Post all questions or plans here, as this is the place for conversations on this division.

As VP of Mini Operations I approve of this battle royal. Interesting that Tokyo got some cheers, but he is the champion.

I watch all art the same. Whether it be movies, books, music, wrestling. I enjoy it until something annoys me and then I try to articulate it. Afterward watching the thing I think about rating it and giving more detailed thoughts. In general though, I just try to watch and enjoy wrestling. There is a different mentality when watching something for a podcast where you know you will have to talk about it.

I will say this every year and I am sorry, but this age rule is ridiculous. I don't see how anybody who is in their prime should get in, until we get some distance from that.

I also call bullshit on it being an official term used to describe black people. It was a racist term used to describe black people used in wrestling, because most of the wrestlers were racist.

In Mid-Atlantic he can be the Super Russian in Maple Leaf, the Super Russian is dead. It was all a ploy by Valentine. Although Valentine teaming with a bunch of Russians works, as he is a sympathizer in the very least.

Yeah, there is an obvious difference between Michael Hayes and Bruce Prichard casually using the n-word in everyday conversation and the same term being an official designation for black people in the wrestling business - similar to the way the term jobber might designate a person who loses the majority of his matches. It's still horrible and fucked up either way, but I can see why he'd argue that some people are racist and others aren't - as warped as that may sound. There is no difference. It was the culture in wrestling, because the culture in wrestling was/is racist.

Not ready yet.

I think it's a very good reason for someone to reject the writings of Dave wholesale even if I don't. People reject the totality of other careers and career output for things like this all the time. As for second point, if I made the argument that within my subculture calling Dave Meltzer's wife a whore wasn't really sexist, but was merely a reflection of common use language within said group, my guess is no one would rush to defend it because it's transparently absurd. Exactly. He should had reported it as it was, instead of adding qualifiers to excuse the issue.

We all know Dalton Castle is the future of wrestling, so why can't we say it. Dalton Castle should be the biggest star in the WWE in 5 years.

What a nifty angle with Garvin's title. I can't wait to see Iceman get his hands on Garvin finally!

Awesome. If anybody needs minis, feel free and I can forfeit them for a day. Jack Tunney is the VP of the NWA in charge of Mini Operations.

As for writing shows, I have my big matches planned for all major shows for all of 1983. I have the big program planned out till July 1st 1984. From there each month I book the whole Maple Leaf Gardens show and then build TV and house shows to that. I write the show when I post it though.

Maple Leaf Wrestling presents Premium Action September 1, 1983 The opening video package of Premium Action opens the show featuring clips of: Greg "The Hammer" Valentine, Wahoo McDaniel, Stephen Petipas & Rocky Johnson, Jesse "The Body" Ventura, NWA Canadian Tag Team Champions Ivan Koloff & Super Russian, Leo Burke and ends with a clip of Rick Martel being awarded the NWA Canadian Title. We go to Billy Red Lyons and Jesse "The Body" Valentine are in a studio and welcome us to Premium Action. The huge show in Maple Leaf Gardens finished on Tuesday and we are bringing you three huge matches from that show. Beginning with the NWA World Midget Title. 1. NWA World Midget Champion Little Tokyo vs Tiger Jackson (from August 30, 1983 in Maple Leaf Gardens) Tiger has his early advantage stopped by salt to the eyes. From there Tokyo works over Tiger, but he keeps kicking out. Tiger makes a huge comeback and looks to have won the title after a crossbody, but Tokyo gets his foot on the rope. From there Tokyo pulls the tights to keep the title. Winner - Little Tokyo @ 13:52 Commercial #1 Back from the back and Ventura raves about Tokyo keeping his title in a great match. Lyons talks about the tights being pulled and Ventura states "win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat". That brings us to our second match, a huge battle royal. 2. Battle Royal featuring: Andre the Giant, Leo Burke, Jerry Brisco, Tony Garea, Tiger Conway Jr., Bobby Bass, Al Tomko, Gary Royal, Killer Karl Krupp, Paul Christy, Angelo Mosca Jr. & Rick Patterson (from August 30, 1983 in Maple Leaf Gardens) Andre the Giant and Leo Burke are the two biggest stars in the match and are the last two left. While alone they have a short and fun battle, before Andre tosses Burke for the win. Winner - Andre the Giant @ 12:26 Commercial #2 Back from the break and both Lyons and Ventura have to give props to Leo Burke for standing toe to toe with Andre. They then talk about the Wahoo McDaniel vs Greg Valentine and Don Carson family feud. Breaking down all the previous brawls. All of that came to a head in Maple Leaf Gardens and as a bonus we got the reveal of the Super Russian in a huge surprise. Jack Tunney will be making an announcement on this situation on Wrestling Night in Canada on Sunday, but after this break you will see this situation. Commercial #3 3. NWA Canadian Tag Team Champions Ivan Koloff & Super Russian w/ Don Carson vs Wahoo McDaniel & Buzz Tyler in a Steel Cage (from August 30, 1983 in Maple Leaf Gardens) As Buzz Tyler makes his way to the ring he his ambushed by Ivan Koloff & Super Russian. They destroy him with a chain to the legs and then wrap it around the ringpost and follow it up with a figure-four leglock. Wahoo McDaniel & Alexis Smirnoff come to ringside, but it is too late. Tyler can not wrestle and is helped to the back by the medics. Jack Tunney comes to ringside to discuss the situation with Wahoo and then Koloff, Super Russian and Carson. The ring announcer makes the announcement that the match will happen, but Alexis Smrinoff will take Buzz Tyler's place. The match starts with Koloff and Wahoo and they go right at it. Wahoo with some vicious chops, but the Super Russian hits Wahoo from behind and the Russians gain the advantage through some double teams. They attack Wahoo's leg, just like they did to Tyler. Using a chain and the cage to beat him down. Wahoo can barely stand, but keeps fighting back. After Koloff was going for a lariat, Wahoo ducks and Koloff nails the cage. This finally gives Wahoo the chance to make the tag to Smirnoff. Koloff and Super Russian back off as Smirnoff gets ready to get all of his revenge. However, instead Smirnoff attacks Wahoo. Koloff jumps Wahoo as well and at this moment Super Russian removes his mask and it's GREG "THE HAMMER" VALENTINE. They beat down Wahoo and the medics are really slow to get out here, because they were helping out Buzz Tyler. Security also comes out eventually get the cage open and save Wahoo. Wahoo leaves on a stretcher while Ivan Koloff, Greg Valentine, Alexis Smirnoff and Don Carson celebrate with the NWA Canadian Tag Team Titles. No Contest @ 8:04 Commercial #4 Back from the break they speculate what actions Jack Tunney will take on Sunday and wonder what Wahoo will do, when he recovers. Is Koloff and Valentine the most dominate tag team in wrestling?

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Fair enough.