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But you can't (allegedly) get into the WON HoF on work alone.And it's still entirely possible to judge draws. What else did Benoit get in on then? Also Bryan was a bigger draw than Benoit.

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Garvin and Hayes? Brandon are you going to nominate every team that every teamed?

Maple Leaf Wrestling August 27, 1983 at Memorial Gardens in Guelph, Ontario 1. Tiger Jackson & Cowboy Lang def. Little Tokyo & Lord Littlebrook @ 8:47 2. Buzz Tyler pinned Killer Karl Krupp @ 5:54 3. Bobby Bass pinned Tiger Conway Jr @ 7:31 4. Mr. Saito w/ Jesse Ventura pinned Stephen Petipas @ 17:40 5. Chicky Starr & Cuban Assassin w/ Bobby Bass def. Rocky Johnson & Ben Bassarab @ 11:01 6. Joel Deaton pinned Joe Marcus @ 3:15 7. Leo Burke pinned Masked Samurai @ 14:09 8. Rick Martel, Wahoo McDaniel & Tony Garea def. Ivan Koloff, Super Russian & Greg "The Hammer" Valentine w/ Don Carson when Martel pinned Super Russian @ 23:15.

http://placetobenation.com/super-extreme-vault-living-dangerously-99/ The Super Extreme Vault with Glenn, Marc and Steven head back into 1999 and look at Living Dangerously! Lots going on here as the FTW Title and the ECW World Heavyweight Title is unified in a match between Sabu and Taz. Who is the true baby face in this feud? It’s the debut of Steve Corino on pay-per-view! Is it the end of the beloved Full Blooded Italians? How does the Rob Van Dam vs Jerry Lynn feud hold up and what was up with the booking? We also get into match placement and how important it is, plus our end of the show awards. A fun packed extreme adventure! Don’t forget SID!!

I guess if you change all the rules around, neglect certain things, you can make the data support your point.

So no botch can be awesome, everything has to go 100% to plan to be awesome? That sounds wrong to me.

It's not something they always do. In fact, statistically speaking, it's not something they usually do. Only three of the past ten Wrestlemanias put a break match before the last main event (always the Divas match, of course). And it hasn't happened at all on any PPV this year, unless you count the tag title match at Money in the Bank. The WWE tends to run at least two important matches back-to-back at the end of their big shows, more often than not. It's not something they always do. In fact, statistically speaking, it's not something they usually do. Only three of the past ten Wrestlemanias put a break match before the last main event (always the Divas match, of course). And it hasn't happened at all on any PPV this year, unless you count the tag title match at Money in the Bank. The WWE tends to run at least two important matches back-to-back at the end of their big shows, more often than not. That is only true if you are very lose on what you mean by most important matches. Only 26 and 24 actually have the last two matches being the most important. I guess if you discount the Hall of Fame as a buffer and somehow think the other title match is more important than the Taker match you could make the statement you did.

WrestleMania X-8 a few months earlier had one as well and that seems to be the earliest case of co-main event, bathroom match, co-main event. Hogan-Rock seems to be the genesis of this stuff, which kind of makes sense.

Talked about this on the Super Extreme Vault coming out today during the Living Dangerously '99 talk. They put their two junior high flying matches early and then did a bunch of brawls in a row leading to a brawling main event. Just makes the main event feel shitty. Spread this stuff out. They learn their lesson on later shows, but early ECW ppvs are hard to watch due to the match placement.

Again I volunteer to take every open Minis date.

Martel above Steamboat, Parv? Last time we talked about this you said you had to put Steamboat higher.

Not me who nominated, just for the record. My 100 spot is going to be for a guy like a Sabu, Big Boss Man or Tenta. So yeah, he has a shot. One of the best fat guy wrestlers of all-time. He does all the little things perfectly. He flexes after a power move, even without muscles. All time great elbow drop and powerslam. He throws a dropkick. He is a master of wobbly selling. The great matches aren't there, but his performances are freaking great.

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Really booking should be simple, just like story telling. Set up something people want to see, make them want it and then give it to them.

Ok, tried to do what Chad did. It's difficult, but here it is: 1. Stan Hansen 2. Terry Funk 3. Toshiaki Kawada 4. Jerry Lawler 5. Jushin Liger 6. Negro Casas 7. Jumbo Tsuruta 8. Ric Flair 9. Mitsuharu Misawa 10. Rey Mysterio Jr. 11. Daniel Bryan 12. Bret Hart 13. Kenta Kobashi 14. Bull Nakano 15. Greg Valentine 16. Eddie Guerrero 17. Dustin Rhdoes 18. Genichiro Tenryu 19. El Satanico 20. Randy Savage 21. Rick Martel 22. El Hijo del Santo 23. Nick Bockwinkel 24. Steven Regal 25. LA Park 26. Akira Taue 27. Vader 28. Ricky Steamboat 29. Aja Kong 30. Sgt. Slaughter 31. Arn Anderson 32. Fit Finlay 33. Brock Lesnar 34. Jaguar Yokota 35. Akira Hotkuo 36. Jun Akiyama 37. Tito Santana 38. Barry Windham 39. Shinya Hashimoto 40. Steve Austin 41. Ricky Morton 42. Tully Blanchard 43. CM Punk 44. Buddy Rose 45. El Dandy 46. Bill Dundee 47. Wahoo McDaniel 48. Riki Choshu 49. Andre the Giant 50. Villano III 51. Blue Panther 52. Lioness Asuka 53. Tatsumi Fujinami 54. John Cena 55. Rick Rude 56. Atsushi Ontia 57. Ted DiBiase 58. Larry Zbyszko 59. Sean Waltman 60. Bobby Eaton 61. Yoshihiro Tajiri 62. Too Cold Scorpio 63. Manami Toyota 64. Mick Foley 65. Masa Saito 66. Dynamite Kansai 67. Ron Garvin 68. Chigusa Nagayo 69. Chris Hero 70. Koji Kanemoto 71. Abdullah the Butcher 72. Terry Gordy 73. Masa Fuchi 74. Dick Murdoch 75. Christian 76. AJ Styles 77. Atlantis 78. Hulk Hogan 79. Curt Hennig 80. Mascarita Dorada 81. Lex Luger 82. Butch Reed 83. Kerry Von Erich 84. Masked Superstar 85. Jerry Blackwell 86. Billy Robinson 87. Mascarita Sagrada 88. Killer Khan 89. Psicosis 90. Carlos Colon 91. Owen Hart 92. Low Ki 93. The Rock 94. Koko Ware 95. Combat Toyoda 96. Dusty Rhodes 97. Super Porky 98. Don Muraco 99. Dutch Mantell 100. Sabu There will be lots of changes, but it's nice to have an initial list to work upon. There are a bunch of guys I need to watch more, so this list will be massively different in the end.

Stan Hansen is still my number one and he is a brawler. Favourite brawl ever is Andre-Hansen in NJPW.

MLW debuted the Premium Action show! It's basically a cross between Prime Time Wrestling and Best of the WWF. I wanted to use my taped show footage and since home video is not really a thing yet, here we go.

Maple Leaf Wrestling presents Premium Action August 25, 1983 The opening video package of Premium Action opens the show featuring clips of: Greg "The Hammer" Valentine, Wahoo McDaniel, Stephen Petipas & Rocky Johnson, Jesse "The Body" Ventura, NWA Canadian Tag Team Champions Ivan Koloff & Super Russian, Leo Burke and ends with a clip of Rick Martel being awarded the NWA Canadian Title. We go to Billy Red Lyons and Jesse "The Body" Valentine are in a studio and welcome us to the debut episode of Premium Action. They run down the show in Maple Leaf Gardens on August 30th: Main Event for the NWA Canadian Title Champion Rick Martel vs Mr. Saito with Jesse Ventura NWA Canadian Tag Team Titles Match in a Steel Cage Champions Ivan Koloff and Super Russian with Don Carson vs Wahoo McDaniel and Buzz Tyler with Alexis Smirnoff Toronto Street Fight Rocky Johnson and "Big" Stephen Petipas vs Cuban Assassin and Chicky Starr with "No Class" Bobby Bass NWA Midget Title Champion Little Tokyo vs Tiger Jackson WWF Intercontinental Title Match Champion Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat vs Greg "The Hammer" Valentine Plus Andre the Giant and much much more! They proceed to talk about airing the finals of the Canada Cup later in the show, but after the break they will be back with Mr. Saito in action. Commercial #1 Lyons and Ventura throw it to the Halifax Forum to see the number one contender Mr. Saito in action. Ventura raves that Saito will take the title on August 30th. 1. Mr. Saito vs Ben Bassarab (from July 11 at Halifax Forum in Halifax, Nova Scotia) Basarab was a fighting young lion, but gets beat be the Saito Suplex. Winner - Mr. Saito @ 12:16 Commercial #2 Lyons and Ventura are back in the studio and Ventura raves about Saito again. They then talk about the important of the Canada Cup. It will return in 1984 again, but the first one was on Canada Day on July 1st in Exhibition Stadium. The winner of the first Canada Cup won the NWA Canadian Title. They throw it to the action. We get the introductions of Sgt. Slaughter and Rick Martel. Commercial #3 Canada Cup Final (NWA Canadian Title Tournament) Sgt. Slaughter vs Rick Martel (July 1st in Exhibition Stadium in Toronto, Ontario) Martel enters the match with a badly injured leg and his head wrapped up from the earlier bleeding.This is your classic babyface vs heel match with the heel having a big advantage. Slaughter works the cut and rips off the bandages which gets the blood flowing again. He works a little on the leg, but mostly focuses on the neck to set up the Cobra Clutch. Martel takes every advantage he has to attack Slaughter's back. Late in the contest Slaughter hits the Slaughter Cannon, but Martel gets his leg on the ropes. Slaughter goes for the Cannon again, but Martel ducks and Slaughter bumps huge to the floor. This leads to Martel's comeback and him getting the win with the Boston Crab. Winner - Rick Martel @ 23:12 Rick Martel wins the Canada Cup and the NWA Canadian Title Commercial #4 Legendary former NWA World Champion Gene Kiniski and Maple Leaf Wrestling President Jack Tunny present Rick Martel with the Canada Cup and the NWA Canadian Title. Back to the studio and Lyons raves about Martel's performance that night. He was tested on Canada Day, but Ventura believes his biggest test is on August 30th against Mr. Saito.