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Pretty much anything good since late 2002, when I stopped watching full-time (WWE was beginning a reign of ridiculousness and TNA wasn't satisfying)

I notice that in some recent WWE Magazine issues, in the classic pictures they have taken to editing out the old WWF block logo along with the Attitude Era scratch logo. What happened? Is this part of the 2011 rebranding from World Wrestling Entertainment to WWE? Did the Pandas come down on them again for whatever reason? (If they did, I would imagine it would be over using the block logo as part of Old School Raw last year) More importantly, how goes it with the classic footage on DVD and on Classics on Demand? Are they still keeping the block logo in as well as the words "World Wrestling Federation"? (since the rebranding, I mean) I guess I'll live with the editing of the magazines if the matches are still intact as possible.

I only enjoyed WOW as the guiltiest of pleasures. The gimmicks were backwards to the point of practically being offensive, the storylines were almost nonexistent, the production was often pretty bush-league, and the wrestling stank like week-old fish. Even being a mark for a couple of the girls like Jacklyn Hyde didn't help making the rest of the show any easier to watch. They had some other good ones too though: Caged Heat with Delta Lotta Pain(no way you could hate that name), Riot, PATTI PIZAZZ, Slam Dunk and Ice Cold. I liked Jane Blond too just because it was different and because it might have been the first secret agent gimmick in wrestling. I thought the production was really good for such a small company. 100 times better than ROH. Gotta give them credit too for drawing a decent house on their ppv. They managed to get 9,500 people in attendance at their ppv which is something TNA hasn't come close to. Speaking of women's companies, would WEW be a contender in this race?

Forget that, ANYTHING he said during Undertaker's debut ruled. Especially during the entrance. About David Crockett...I think his bad reputation was in part instigated by Wrestlecrap. (They're guilty of doing that with a few things...some of the stuff they roasted on the site wasn't that bad)

Come on now, the Grey Pierson era is a definite contender. (And yet I still watched loyally, go figure)

What I remember was Russo doing promos at this time where it would seem that he'd try to say "shit" as many times as humanly possible. This became somewhat of a personal meme...

Can you elaborate for me? In the 90s, Simon used to write to the letters to the editor columns of the Apter mags, usually singing the praises of guys like Adam Bomb and Disco Inferno.

That's super lame and Ive always thought that even pre-internet. Powerslam was only 10 days or so behind. Speaking of Powerslam has anyone ever met or had any dealings with Ernie "Stately Wayne Manor" Santilli: http://www.swmswm.com/ Boy is that a name from the past! Similarly, I wonder what happened to Carmine DeSpirito/Hubie Marx, and WME's heel writers Sir Jonathan Boyd, "Flamboyant" Freddie Fargo, and (especially) Al "Chump Hogan/Stink/Flex Loser" McGinnis?

The wackiest letters I remember being written to Apter: - The one that proclaimed Typhoon as the greatest wrestler at the time. - The one where someone said Stan Hansen's Triple Crown meant less than the U.S. title because he beat "a bunch of nobodies like Mitsuhara Misawa" - Anything Harry Simon wrote, knowing his intentions now.

*snip* These are really cool, these month-by-month recaps.

Where are said scans located?

Would Baby Doll not being able to have children because of Jim Cornette's tennis racket count? I know this angle is praised for being edgy for its time, but if you were following it in real time, it was kind of weird because it was just a week after the Holiday Hell show in NY...where Tommy yet again piledrove Beulah.

Seems there was one moment that year when most of the valets save for Beulah and Francine left the company. I recall stories of Missy Hyatt turning them against Paul E?

I want all this...

Bix I can always count on you :-)

With Raw S1&2 coming out, I was thinking about this a bit...has anyone on the board done business with Silvervision? If so, here is what Wiki says about their Tagged Classics... Now, does this apply to the compilation sets released in the UK as well? Or do they get the same versions as the US with the same edits?

Well Nancy Grace and her ilk would still find something to complain over, I'm sure, so I guess it's "good business" to have been leaving him off stuff. But it sounds like they might be easing up...recall Vince's mini-statement in that History of WWE magazine. Also, in the WM issue this year, they give the results of all the WM's, and Benoit is mentioned by name in them this time. Not that I am one of those who are pushing them to bring him back. I am actually against the IWC on this debate, not just for the realistic aspects of it, but because I am just sick of the whole matter. One tends to forget Nancy and Daniel when it becomes all about Chris and his career. That said, maybe Jericho DOESN'T want a DVD set until there's the smallest possibility that they can bring back the Benoit matches? Remember at the beginning of his book, he was one who said that the Benoit of that weekend wasn't the one he knew. So maybe he wants to wait till it's "safe" to restore that man he did know? Back to the main topic, yes there is something therapeutic and/or fun in recalling how awful HHH is. But am I the only one who finds this and the J.R. thread terribly depressing? Just cause it opens a bunch of old wounds, most of them reminding me how terrible the business has seemed to become in this last decade or so? Mostly the way backstage politics and mean-spiritedness seep out in the final product. I realize that wrestling's always been like that, but it just seemed more noticeable from the Attitude Era on. Perhaps me having the Internet helped (hurt?) too, but I was thinking back to having read Bret's book and contrasting the sex and drugs and all of the '80s with the characters I saw on TV every week. They may have been scummy and jerky off-camera, but on camera they were good, they were evil, they were funny, heroic, and COOL. I miss that!

They're probably waiting until he leaves for good, which will either be when Fozzy really catches or when his second book gets released. And there's the little matter of much of his career being linked with that guy they're still not quite ready to admit existed. If a set came out now, I'm sure the IWC members who still feel the need to consider said guy their god or whatever would be bitching to no end.

Yep. Much like he did Scott Steiner, who could have refresh the product as Big Poppa Pump was an excellent heel character and a WCW one to boot, so the WWF crowd would have surely hated him. So of course Steiner has to work face because god knows you don't want Big Poppa Pump to get actual heel heat because no one should be a bigger heel that Triple H. And of course Steiner gets to work those long "classic" Triple H style matches so he's exposed as a guy who can't work WWF style main event. Well done sir. Actually it was part HHH, part WWE doing their version of the Revenge of the Sith hunt down and kill all the Jedis (I forget the plan's number, having blocked out most of the prequels from my mind), except after the inVasion they were pretty much signing and jobbing any of the major WCW stars they didn't get to. Steiner, not being a WWE creation and a remnant of the company they wanted to kill for good, wouldn't have had a chance anyway. Just like the rest of the nWo, Goldberg, Bischoff, Booker (for good measure), and a case can be made for Flair mostly being in HHH's shadow.

I'm interested in the tidbit about Tully getting the U.S. title. I wonder how it would have worked out, esp. since he was settling in with AA in their tag team.

Screw this DVD, THIS is the one I want... http://www.cornettescollectibles.com/product.sc?productId=44

Remember the Hardcore Heaven '94 commercial? What was the song they used as background music for that? (Starts with a guitar riff, then builds up to a part with the "Oooooooooh's" of the singers) I can still hear Joey Styles' voiceover: "Jurassic Park 2, 911 and the Roughneck Mr. Hughes!"

Did you really think "Rapid Delivery" was a good idea?