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The quota of propaganda show was already reached with the two MBSManias. Can't have any more. Fuck the troops, WWE need to support an islamic dictature. Hopefully no one gets raped again since this show will really flew under the radar this time.

Yeah, Ask Arn 4, from last week.

They already are inducting Hogan (again). That would makes too many of those people, ya know...

I laughed.

No shit. Joey Janela taking a bump from the Moon down to Earth wouldn't make Big Casxcsc (whatever consonants the guy added to his stupid name tonight) even remotely entertaining.

To me Naito already has been Kawada-ed. It's already passed the point he should have gotten the big one from Okada. So, it needs to be done now, because anytime later will feel like really the biggest missed opportunity. Not to mention the guy is breaking down already.

This guy needs serious help. And no, he's not getting any sympathy for me, "mental health issue" or not. The fact he's the only guy ever whose motivational video was *pulled off* from DDPY's app tells me something. (unless his desperate no-talent ass is trying to work-shoot his way into some booking, in which case it at least make sense in a carny way)

I guess I'll have to avoid spoilers for a few days, as I won't be able to watch these as it happens nor even with one day delay. No idea how this thing can turn out. Like the most impressive event ever or a complete burn out. I'm on the fence with this. Phantasmo & Ishimori vs R3K, Archer vs Mox, Ospreay vs Hiromu, White vs Naito, Okada vs Ibushi, Tanahashi vs Jericho and hopefully Okada vs Naito still looks like an insane line-up. All the Liger stuff should be great.

Basically, if you've watched and been a fan of his Spring Break shows, you can't unlike Janela and you don't give a flying fuck about his fundamentals.

I love you for that. Loved all of those. Thanks for the list. I wish I had kept track a bit. Those two AAA matches kinda flew under the radar because AAA, but yeah, these were two awesome matches. Also, obviously : Tessa Blanchard vs Sami Callihan from Slammiversary. Hell yeah.

Hey, good for him. That's smart. totall off topic : there's this misanthropic French hip-hop artist with only one Tweet on his Twitter since 2010 : "Read books instead".

Yeah. Super fun match too. I don't remember the rest of the show TBH (nor if I actually watched the entire thing actually).

So they are gonna induct Hulk "I guess we're all a bit racist" Hogan, again ? Really ? MBS in the celebrity wing when ?

This. Doesn't surprise me from known bully and stooge JBL though. The more I know about Taker IRL, the less I care about this guy. That's the issue with knowing too much about performers. Then again, maybe if performers were less of bullies and assholes in general, everything would flow better for everybody involved. I sure hope the younger generation is aware of this and things are only get more mature in the future. Funny how you can't win anyway. If you're not a pro-wrestling fan, then you're just in for the money and you don't respect da business and da boys and shit. If you're a huge wrestling fan, you're a mark and a geek. Ok.

Thanks. Agreed. The Wild Cards stuff looks just thrown together and Eddie did cut a promo about the Rock'n'Roll, so maybe infact he's just not working there anymore, because it seemed logical for them to challenge for the tag titles. The Wild Cards seem quite ok now that I've seen a bit more of them. I've also seen Royce Isaac on a Bar Wrestling show, and he looked like a decent worker in that context.

Not keeping track at all anymore. So much greatness in pro-wrestling in 2019, I mean the G1 Climax only was ridiculous. From the top of my head, for how big it came off and because of which show it was on and how unique it was, Cody vs Dustin strikes me as a good candidate, although obviously some of the NJPW stuff was out of this world great again this year. Young Bucks vs Lucha Brothers ladder match was insane and maybe the greatest car crash match ever too.

Well, like @Alucard is saying, there's a thing about finding the little gems in the pile of dogshit. Plus I find TNA to be a fascinating case. I mean, the fucking Young Bucks stealing the show ten years ago on PPV. How crazy is that ? Also, this won't last, since there's only a bunch of Monday Night shows. Plus, I'm not doing it because I'm legit depressed like I was when I actively dove into TNA some years ago. So, it's just for the heck of it.

And I love Ricky Morton and consider him as one of the greatest worker ever. But yeah...

So against whom are the Rock'n'Roll Express working then ? Yeah, either way that's odd. Although Homicide looked bored as hell. Man, AEW should jump on Kingston and pair him with Ortiz & Santana. They worked against each other in IMPACT so they are familiar, it would be the perfect act with Kingston on the mic working a match once in a while (since he wanted to retire).

Yeah, it's interesting to hear him say that despite spending 18 years in the E, he never really thought he found his place, or even that they made a place for him, often demining his opinions and experience. Also interesting to hear basically what Meltz says often, is that they basically are doing the shows for an audience of one. Yeah, love the show, Arn is a pleasure to listen to.

It's been that way about AEW since the very beginning. People are irrationnal. I dont remember that kind of reaction about any other promotion ever. It's like all of a sudden AEW threatens what people are used to and they fear it will ruins pro-wrestling "as it should be" forever if they become a successful promotion. For the very first time, I kinda feel a real generation gap. I get a feeling of "that techno shit is not music, these guys don't even know how to play real instrument" at times. It's been brewing for a while now, but we are reaching a point where most of the workers are from a completely different generation from the "old-schoolers" from the 80's and 90's. AJ Style is a 40 something year old. That's the guy who was pro-wrestling in the future in the mid 00's. 15 years ago. We're past that generation too. For someone discovering pro-wrestling now, a Canadian Destroyer is a super cool spot but not a finisher. Like, a big vertical suplex 30 years ago. And it's fine. Superkicks are like clotheslines. You can do intergender wrestling. So ? They know what's up. I truly feel something happening like never before, as the last remains of the 80's and 90's are slowly disappearing, and guys like Jericho & Dustin embracing the futur like Terry Funk did in the mid 90's. Up until, let's say the early to mid 10's, you could still feel the presence of this entire previous generation, people from the 90's were the big legends. As we're turning into the 20's, the landscape is washing itself clean of this era, much like there was barely anything left form the 60's and 70's in the 90's (yeah, you had Backlund tearing it up in WWF in a style that looked alien and was cool because of it, but no one then talked about the good old days of 70's wrestling, because the fans were younger then and brought up in the 80's). Because most of what constitutes the pro-wrestling fans of today still are an heritage of the "glory days" of the 80's and late 90's, tons of these people seem to be scared shitless of what's coming up. Those damn millenials and their movez and looking like geeks and not understanding selling and heat and such. At one point, if AEW catches up, after a while most replies to the critics will end up being : ok boomers.

Next NWA tag team champions. Hopefully Scurll and Harper end up in AEW doing Villain Enterprise, so people can bitch about the finger breaking spot and yet another cult-like stable and whatnot.

You mean, pro-wrestling is not about promoting yourself to get people see you work at a show ? Damn... I must have misunderstood something then... No but, seriously, we get your point. But your are trying way too hard to rationalize your distaste for Janela. I understand why he's not your type of wrestler, and like I said I'm not sure if he's gonna successfully translate well in the long run, but he's not nearly as bad as you make him to be (I find him actually quite good in his own way).

Destination X was kinda crazy in that it painted a perfect picture of TNA. On one side, they had the Motor City Machine Guns vs Generation Me totally stealing the show in an Ultimate X match. Awesome stuff that totally precedes the style of the 2010's by a few years. Throw this shit on Dynamite, and it's still an amazing match. And also, the fact TNA signed the Young Bucks and showcased them in their signature match on a PPV in 2010 shows how progressive this company could be. Much like they were in the 00's when they were running AJ Styles vs Samoa Joe vs Chris Daniels, which was the state of the art pro-wrestling emerged from the most advanced indies like ROH at the time. Much like when they were putting women in position to have strong serious match and draw viewers as early as 2007. This match is the same, it's basically the wrestling of the future. But then, the main event concluded with this infamous sequence : Which is funny as fuck, but also tragic in the grand scheme of things, because it sums up what TNA really was instead of what it could have been.

Yeah, because you're absolutely not trying to paint a personal opinion and bias as a fact. Janela may be not everyone's cut of tea, but to say he just sucks as a pro-wrestler is ridiculous. He's had shitloads of excellent and memorables matches, including a few in AEW already. He's a successful indie show promoter and as such, had more buzz and drew more than say, Nick Aldis (just grabbing that one off the hat for shits and giggles) ever did thus far. That's being a good pro-wrestler too. Also, saying Mick Foley was a collegial athlete to try and argue your point is extraordinary ridiculous, I'm sorry to say. Foley got over by taking stupid-ass bump like the nestea plunge on the concrete. That's how he got over. That's totally because he was a collegial athlete and not a masochistical loony who jumped from his roof when he was 16. Really now, people are totally grasping at straws to justify their own biases. The whole "He can't throw a punch" argument (about anyone) is something I need to never hear again in my life and it will be too soon. Do people even realize that throwing a punch was considered by the older of the old-school, as in before the old-school people are usually referring to, as a total shortcut for shitty workers and totally business exposing ? Because you see, if you throw a bunch of punches and the face of the opponent doesn't get black and blue and swollen, then the business is exposed and it's not "realistic". That's also probably why closed fist punches were historically "forbidden". Clotheslines at one point also were considered business exposing shortcuts for shitty workers (just listen to Larry Z.). Now people are bitching because that cowboy guys doesn't do just lariats, because that's realistic brawling old-school pro-wrestling. Guess what, it isn't. Back to the punches : Hulk Hogan's punches looked like shit. The Rock, oh man, The Rock and his open slaps looking punches were ridiculous. And Steve Austin was a decent stomp-hard-on-the-mat-with-both-feet-because-that's-realistic kinda puncher. Come on now. None of this stuff flies. It never did. So yeah, Joey Janela doesn't throw good punches. Guess what, it's not what can get him over, so no one cares apart from people who don't like/don't get him and have to justify their own distaste by trying to rationalize it with "objective facts". The problem is that very often, rationalizing biases makes for poor argument and discussions. I'll say this about Janela, he may very well be a guy like Sandman or Mickey Whipreck (hell, or even Tommy Dreamer, who is respected by all) who will not translate the best in a mainstream context. Have good matches and cool garbage brawl, sure, but maybe not get over to the cult status he reached in the indies, because his nature is being a guy from the indies. We'll see.