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Amazing. When is Maria scheduled to deliver ? And then how much time will they let her before calling her back on TV (I guess once she'll get in "WWE shape"), as obviously they wanted her rather than him.

Yeah, they need to live in palaces and shit in golden toilets... Reminds me the very few times I saw that stupid reality show with the Bellas and how I was appaled by the lifestyle of John Cena. I wouldn't trade my place with his, really. Who needs all that shit ? Anyway. It struck me as a completely inane remark from Meltz that wasn't wrestling related, really.

About Taker's finances "may be not the best" (and him coming back at Mania for a payday again) : "Unless you have 10 million $ in the bank, you're always gonna worry about your finances." WTF ? Give me a single million and I'm so done.

Yeah, strikes me as totally ridiculous on every level, to say the least.

I believe NJ's very first PPVs were in the early 00's. Before that, it was all on the TV shows and tape releases.

CD's are still going strong in Japan too. Totally different culture.

Yeah, Meltz was brutal with Dustin, to the point he really comes off having a terrible bias against him. Really ridiculous. The Goldust episode was still too long and result-reading heavy, but there was some interesting stuff there. It's striking when you roll back his entire career how much crazy shit Dustin was a part of, including that godawful TAFKAG stint that I mostly erased from memory (apart from the Mania 14 match), and how much the real life issue played a role into his on/off pushes. I like that Bruce hated the "shoot" interview which killed the character dead and that he shit on most of Russo's nonsensical booking in 98/99. Quite a fascinating and unique career when you think about it, although it also put a light on the fact that no matter how good Dustin's WCW work was, he had long periods of not really delivering anything that good (especially if you put the late WCW and TNA stint in the middle of it). And when he got back in the best working shape of his life he wasn't given much opportunities to shine.

Another all-time great Grumpy Mutoh Fuck-Off performance indeed.

I'd drop Mutoh in the "underrated" crowd, honestly. Despite the bad tendencies and goofiness, always been a Keiji Mutoh/Great Muta fan. He has his share of infamous "Grumpy Mutoh" performances where he lays an egg in the middle of the ring. This include the famous job-to-Takada match at the 04/01/96 Dome show. I find him oddly endearing in his absolute lack of giving-a-fuck- in these.

This is actually a great question. Hulk Hogan comes to mind. Kurt Angle too.

This will be my last Pro-wrestling board, without a doubt. Thanks for this year, people.

I should have listened. Tepid doesn't even begin to describe it.

Pretty funny stuff indeed. This should be a thread in itself !

They have their own thread at PWO. They won.

This. And Twitter drama is always sad, basically. The only goal of pro-wrestling is selling tickets & merch. The Bucks do that without the WWE machine. More power to them, whether I care or not about their act. The rest is basically bullshit.

Hulk Hogan : it looked real and not at all embarrassing to non-fans... Really, people ? The post-modern shit can be unbearable if you're not into it, but for fuck's sake, the Rocket Launcher ? Stan Lane's karate kicks ? All the gaga in every southern tag-team match ever ?

It was a tired spot by 1999.

Just learned Taya Walkyrie was actually featured on World of Hurt, the infamous Lance Storm reality show from way back. I saw that back in the day and had totally forgot about it !

Thought the same thing. That would be a riot. Especially the part where Stephy & Trip don't get to be the boss anymore. Well, one can always dream, ok ? I want my WCW back... this would be Lethal Lottery time right about now...

Wouldn't be complete without a "You deserve it" chant, of course. Fuck that, Zenjo was packing the Budokan 30 years ago.

So, I watched that 4-tag-team match. Since I'm not following the product closely at this point, I learned a few things : _Aidan English has got an amazing voice. _Rusev is over as fuck. Why isn't he pushed as a main event act with Lana back at his side ? Crazy. _After the failure of American Alpha, Chad Gable is now teaming with.... Shelton Benjamin ? Ok. I'm afraid to guess why... He's still awesome though, these suplexes were god-like. Fun match mostly thanks to the final sprint, but clusterfucky as hell and sloppy at points too. And then, Charlotte vs Natalya was ok but the ridiculous gimmick (at least they didn't call them lumberjills, but a ring "surrounded" by like 8 people really looks stupid) made it worse. The post-match promo by Natalya was brutal. Charlotte is sadly not looking special anymore when booked in heatless mid-card feuds like this. The Bludgeon Brothers comes off as such an awful gimmick too, with the idiotic promo after the match. Why does everything has to be cute and silly ? Too bad for Harper, who really could be pushed as a single. Plus they really look like Random Savage Guys Team, really. He'll be depushed, gain some weight and just be a random ugly & crappy Canadian wrestler with awful skin. Basically, he'll be Rick Bogner.

I haven't seen the segment. And it seems god-fucking-awful and everything that you just mentioned. It's so infuriating and indeed patronizing. But the outcome, the real outcome that is important to the WWE people is the fact Stephy is presented as the Mother Hen of WWE Women Liberation tm. That's the only thing that matters, ultimately, which is why they have to go through the process of group hugging and crying and shit. It has to be underlined as a "creative process" on Stephy's part (although she isn't even in creative at this point I believe), much like HHH is using NXT to wank in the face of "smart" fans at every turn, while he's only simply rotating indy darlings (lol) in big push positions and doing retromaniac booking that everyone know won't fly in the main roster. Basically, it's all about empowering the McMahons, who are official supports (and more) of Donald Trump, that feminist... As far as the Women's Rumble, super cool idea and looking forward to it (yeah, I know, I'm setting myself up for disappointment already).

I haven't seen the segment, and from what I read here, I'm glad I haven't. Reeks of Stephy's Women's Revolutiontm bullshit. Can't they just announce a Royal Rumble for the women wrestler as part of, ya know, pro-rasslin' ?

Damnit of course. Those MMA guys, whoever they are... I figured Steph would be Missy on here, as SHE and only SHE is responsible for women's wrestling being featured. Like, ever.