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Indeed. Triple threat matches are mostly shitty and almost never great because the gimmick makes for annoying pacing and contrived stuff. These three made a great match out of it. So many cool yet smart spots worked into this formula here, amazing execution, jaw-dropping sequences. Yes, three great workers (Daniels is ridiculously underrated at this point, he's a legit great one that gets zero credit because he didn't get the token WWE years) working at their top level and getting a MOTYC out of a gimmick that prevents it on paper (unless any clusterfuck with contrived built-in spots gets raved upon, which of course happens more often than not).

Indeed. Triple threat matches are mostly shitty and almosy never great because the gimmick makes for annoying pacing and contrived stuff. These three made a great match out of it. So many cool yet smart spots worked into this formula here, amazing execution, jaw-dropping sequences. Yes, three great workers (Daniels is ridiculously underrated at this point, he's a legit great one that gets zero credit because he didn't get the token WWE years) working at their top level and getting a MOTYC out of a gimmick that prevents it on paper (unless any clusterfuck with contrived built-in spots gets raved upon, which of course happens more often than not).

Fuck these people. Fuck them so hard. People are already feeling the effect of Trump presidency in their everyday lives, and suffering because of it. So fuck each and every one of these people. I hope this shit is gonna bite them in the ass one day.

Well, yes, it was awesome and one of the best episode of LU alltogether. And I had no idea who these japanese girls were to begin with, but I can only guess how hard I would have marked out to see them in that context if I followed Stardom. Loved the fact it escalated in competitiveness and violence. Pentagon was tremendous. Not once any of this looked contrived, ridiculous or exploitative. They really have turned the corner, this is straight Kill Bill shit. And despite the super stiff chop (hey, how one single chop is more efective than throwing a hundred), you can guess how safe he actually is with some of those kicks to the head that look sudden and brutal. His selling and bumping for the girls was terrific. Great worker and character. The three girls all looked amazing in selling the beating but also shined on offense. That Io Shirai girl must be insane. My jaw dropped like four times during this. The bumps on the chairs. That final dive. And the final with Black Lotus was pure badasserie (yeah, in "French"). I must also emphasize how great Melissa Santos is, as you can see her reacting during the matches, grabbing her mic when she feels it can be the end, actually clapping for the women and looking involved (because why wouldn't she ?), all of which without having the cameras actually being on her. It feels so organic and makes it all more legit, despite the fantasy world of LU. Speaking of which, the two main vignettes were awesome, with a heavy stylish horror feel to them. I really hope Lucha Underground gets more seasons. (and I see 8000 posts and I wonder what the hell am I doing with my life too)

Please, don't drop the "SD is such a complex and compelling show you have to watch to get how great this feud actually is" on me. I've seen everything by now. It's Randy Orton & Bray Wyatt. Giant Baba, Riki Choshu, Kevin Sullivan, Paul Heyman, Bill Watts all in together at best best of their booking trickery couldn't make me care about them. Orton has been a black hole for a decade plus. Wyatt is the new black hole. This match is the supernova of dullness and suck. Actually, old-ass Taker being punched in the face by Roman Reigns while a stadium shits on the match sounds quite appealing. I hope Roman gets over actually, as Taker has overstayed his welcome (well, his comebacks) for a few years now. Turn the fucker heel already. Seeing Cena work his magic was such a cruel reminder that Reigns just isn't all of that and a bag of potato chips.

No. Well, actually I did watch the go-home SD before the Rumble and man, was that nothing or what. A short JTTS battle royal won by the awful Mojo Riley. A neverending typical my-turn your-turn promo segment with Cena & AJ (straight out of every WWE interview segment from the last 17 years). A terrible "comedy" segment with Carmella and Ellsworth doing "Pretty Woman". A non woman's match. Wow. Yeah, felt like the greatest pro-wrestling TV show ever or something. Maybe it was just a bad show, but it felt like every terrible WWE TV I've stumble upon over the years. I have zero interest in WWE TV format, it's the last thing I want to watch even with the great french announcers making things way easier. I'll keep on cherry picking matches.

So… Orton vs Bray or Orton vs Cena ? Major yawn to both. Speaking about yawn, HHH vs Rollins. Want to see that Trip intro though. Roman Reigns vs Zombitaker. Braun vs….. no idea. Lesnar destroying Goldy (that's the least he could do) Charlotte vs Asuka. Yeah, I know it won't happen, but a four-way cluster for the women would be such a disapointment and unfair treatment. ……... Coming off this poor Rumble, things are so not exciting.

What a boring Rumble match. Mostly nothing happening forever for the first 2/3 apart from the Braun Diesel push. Way too gimmicky all the time, with people not even showing the will to try to eliminate anyone and basically jumping out when they get their cue and staying out of the way of the token angle/comedy taking place at the center of the ring. No surprise entrant. No Joe, no Nak. Not even Angle or Goldust or whoever. Fuck me, even HHH would have been at least funny. The three big name right after one another, almost. Well, when you see Taker, you get it. He looks every bit of his age. Amore was a waste of time. "Not even funny" said a french announcer. Right. Goldy & Taker, two of the biggest stars in the match. In 2017. Well. I must admit, I loved the trolling at the end. Really, Roman Reigns at 30 and taking out Taker ? This was glorious. Of course, the final three wasn't. Bray, I dunno what to say. Buy him a djembe or something. Orton winning... Fuck me. So yeah. Worst Rumble match in a long time with tons of dead time and way too much gimmickry. Aztec Warfare III pisses on this match so hard it's not even funny. Well, a two match show really. A great, great one and a very fine opener. I should definitely keep on cherry picking. Well, good night. It's almost 5 in the morning. I won't do that for Mania. Hell, I have no idea where I'll be then anyway.

Holy shit, Lana. Come on, do something with Rusev.

Probably in their contract too. Well, it picked up with Braun and dropped dead once he was eliminated. Mediocre Rumble match thus far.

Most useless referees ever.

Way too many beards in this company. And thus far, way too gimmicked up Rumble match. Okay, but not that good.

Mojo vs Cass is like the most useless pairing ever. Gallager and the parapluie was fun. Kinda jobberville until Braun came up though. And Braun, well, I would have loved back in 1998, when I was all about Kurrgan.

Why is Cass employed, remind me ?

He's tired and delirious. He probably thought Styles was Raven or something. Raven vs Abyss from that 2005 TNA PPV was way better than Reigns vs Owens, that's for sure. I'm not even tired. Not even one bit drunk. I'm going to stay awake for the Rumble at this point.

You obviously don't follow my (mostly) super enthousiastic LU thread. But yeah, I was fearing the worst after the SS match, which I couldn't stand. And then I loved (mostly) every minute of this one. Hey, I'm in the middle of the night alone with a drink and I'm glad I saw a great fucking match.

(and seriously, Cena is so above anyone else in the company in term of being Da Man, still)

Great match. A wee bit too much finisher spamming at the very end, but it's like complaining about elbow exchange in a NJ match. MOTYC. Great performance by both. AJ Styles is an amazing worker. Cena was terrific too here. Thanks to them both, I didn't stay that late for nothing.

Holy shit, those veins. Seriously ? Ok, I'm drinking to stay awake now.

SEVEN STARS INCOMING ! (hey, it's almost 3 in the morning and I'd rather watch the Rumble match at this point. I am bored out of my mind)

Ditto. It went 20 minutes overkill to me. So. The same. Hopefully they don't work like WWE epic-programmed-robots this time

Great idea for a cruiserweight match to do stomps and chinlock spots. Because this show has been so breathtaking thus far. Well, it was *solid*. No idea why this is on PPV though. Apparently neither does this audience. At least they can watch the match without the awful camera tricks which ruin every cool spot too. Boring, snail pace show thus far, with Charlotte vs Bayley being the best match thus far at *very good*.

Nice. An overlong, worked-at-a-snail-pace Attitude Era like garbage brawl, with the whole Jericho spot rendered absolutely useless thanks to the no-DQ stip, which overstayed its welcome about half-way through ending on a shit finish with a Kane/911 run-in. Gawwwwd. The self-conscious epic aspect of these overlong matches with carefully planned "epic" spot I really have zero patience for at this point. If you do a brawl, make it dirty and dramatic, not deliberate like this. It felt like 1999 again. Reigns vs Braun ? Cool, One match I can FF at Mania. This PPV is FUCKING SLOW.

ZZZZZZzzzzz..... I still have no idea what people see in Roman Reigns. He sures punches and lariats a lot. He ain't Lex Luger though. Pyramid chair ? Uh... ok. ECW ? ECW ? ECW ?

Damn, Reigns vs Owens with Jericho in a cage. Look at me not caring. It's 1.30 in the morning already. No idea how late I'm gonna go. Jericho's sleazy look is still awesome.