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The spear. Stop doing it. Everyone. It was cool when Goldy was doing it 17 years ago. I was 22 years old. I'm 39. This spot had sucked since. From Edge to all the others, you all basically suck at it. Especially when you're rolling out of it. Stop doing the spear. It's awful.

Interesting, I could agree with pretty much everything there (except I don't watch NXT TV, and I think Trish was actually okay for WWF style, but just okay) About the Young Bucks, I have no idea either. So much about them is downright awful : the Hardy Boys circa 96 look, the suck-it DX gimmick in 2015, the gazillion superkicks. Brutal. Either too indie, too meta or a combination of both.

Reality Era ? Oh fuck me... Good luck people.

Nice, the "biggest Mania ever "built around HHH and Stephy. So promising.

Some interesting threads have already been bumped into the second page (where they'll be forgotten) because of useless threads like the AJ Lee one (or the Rusev one which is basically a pissing contest). Blah.

And quite frankly, I was thinking this is exactly why the Current WWE thread was perfectly fine. The board doesn't need a hundred treads like this one. Oh, anyway...

Totally rushed, in every sense of the word. No heat. You get the fake Razor and Diesel in the picture too, which reminds everyone that the product sucks. Shawn has lost a lot of momentum. Vader looks like he's just another guy already. Austin is not yet over like he could (they really didn't take advantage on the 3.16 tuff yet, which sounds insane retrospectively). It's obvious they were going toward the Sid choice, which has always worked in the past, uh ?

Agreed. All those vignettes were terrific. And the promos were focused and to the point (everything they failed with the Bray Wyatt character, basically).

After years of lovable Mick Foley, it's easy to forget how creepy Mankind was. Great vignette, dirty and rainy. Paul Bearer worked surprisingly well as a character with Mankind too.

As a way to introduce and push back the Road Dog, why not, really. But they should have gone away from talking about Jarrett as quickly as possible instead of trying to bury him while reminding everyone that all the bigger stars were on the other channel. Plus, giving Armstrong that stupid Jesse Jammes name (with two "m" which looked odd and ridiculous, but I guess it was all about being the Real Double J with a double s and a double m) and the old Jarrett song to sing on his way to the ring was a recipe for failure. It's too bad because Road Dog comes off rather charismatic during the interview. It's also, I guess, the only Jim Johnston appearance on WWF TV.

They really did an excellent job with these creepy vignettes building to Buried Alive. Short and to the point too.

The title has been dead for more than 15 years. It would be a miracle if they did.

Terrific story. (charity is *always* self-interested at heart, even though it can do good things on a small scale)

Came back in late 95 and had a match with Ahmed at the Royal Rumble. But let's pretend it didn't happen.

Back when 41 was old by WWF standarts. Jake does look old though, but this match is pretty good actually, one of the best TV match Jake had since his comeback. Mankind's video was all kind of creepy. I was never a fan of the buried alive stip though, always seemed way too gimmicky.

Yeah, it's pretty amazing when you think about it. Fake Razor Ramon, Fake Diesel and the "Real" Double J, all in the same week. WWF was and came off sooo desperate.

The match is no better than decent. Mero's shooting star press never looked that good, it always seemed he just banged his knees on the mat and barely touched his opponent. A few of his athletic spots looked like that, just athletic stuff that didn't translated well into actual pro-wrestling spots. Not a big fan of Simmons in single, although he had his moments. Pushing Mero was the right move though, and you get the feeling the were aiming at a new Savage/Liz glamour couple. Sunny vs Sable catfight gets more heat than the entire match which kinda foreshadows what would happen in a few years.

Too much a hassle to read all individual threads about goofy questions. I'll miss the megathread.

Youshoot with "Miroslav of WWE fame" in 10 months.

I got back into watching more WWE TV than I ever did in 15 years since last year's Mania. I've done the one year round trip. I'm tuning out. I can get back whenever Brock shows up, because he's the only reason to watch this poor excuse of a promotion. The mere fact Stephy will be all over the TV is enough for me to tune out. She's awful. She's a poor performer most of the time (the contrast between her and Paul during the opening segment was amazing) and her character is the worst of the worst at this point. Yeah, don't show ANY fear for either Sting, Ronda or Brock, why the hell not ? (am I the only one who thinks she looks more and more like Chyna too ?) I did enjoy Cena vs Ambrose, and still think Cena would be an awesome heel. But we know this won't happen. Despite the fact he's being phased down. Rusev is already "just another guy" without Lana. That's sad. Neville. Because first name are evil. I have no idea what he can do in that main roster setting. That main event. Big Show, Kane… And Randy Orton of course. Same old shit. Poor Roman Reigns. No one looks like a star at this point, no one. Except Brock. Who's gone, thanks to his sweet-ass contract (and good for him). This was easily the flattest, most unremarkable post-Mania RAW in years, and that despite a big time angle with Brock which ended up being kinda ruined by Stephy's shreeking.

Totally agree. That's why I said I thought it was a great spectacle, but not a great match by any means. Reigns just got up of so many bombs that at some point it kinda made Lesnar's offense look kinda, you know, weak, actually. Either that, or it made Reigns look like a Terminator (and you know that's Triple H's gimmick now).

Come on, it was hilarious. Well, I get that's probably not what they were aiming at, but… Totally priceless and useless at the same time, in the end it's still HHH dropping shitty kneedrops and playing along with a sledgehammer.

Well, Meltz actually says that this was maybe the best WrestleMania of all time…

At this point, I probably won't. No, you're the one who don't understand what I mean actually. I don't give a shit mostly because I just witnessed another boring drawn out Authority angle with the idea that WM next year will be built around HHH and Stephy (who's not afraid of the big bad MMA fighter). That's why I don't give a shit. When I say I don't know who she is, I really mean I don't care about MMA so I never actually even saw her face. But I'm well aware she's a huge star. That doesn't mean she's automatically interesting to me, and really the whole segment didn't do shit to get me interested. I guess Stephy has a lot to do with that. Hum… actually, yes, I do.

Really poor show saved by two matches, basically, and a great way to save an incoming disaster in the main event. Multi-tag pre-show match was fun for what it was. But I don't ever want to hear that workers need to adapt to the "less is more" style of the WWE. This was as indierrific and choregraphed as anything I've seen. But fun I guess. Battle Royal was shit, like most battle royal, although I did like Big Show's work around the ropes actually, so I can live with him winning. Miz is such an awful actor. The IC ladder multi-man match was a complte cluster of nonsense. People falling from high places, clichés ladder spots we've seen a billion times, made even worse when 70% of the participants are geeks. Dolph's ultra quick way up the ladder toward the end of the match is worse than any super slow climb ever. Bryan wins the IC title, which is a jobber title at this point. I have no faith they'll do anything with it despite the legend segment. Orton vs Rollins. OrtZZZZZzzzzzzzzz…….. Hey, kicking out of finishers in the second match of the PPV. Nice. As always, one spot wonder Orton does deliver his one great spot. Solid I guess, but didn't give a shit. Sting vs HHH. Oh god, someone mixed Muta's entrance at the Tokyo Dome with Sting's. Oh god, HHH, really ? This was so amazingly ridiculous and stupid, this guy is killing me. And it's always cracking me up when you realize that under the outfit it's plain old boring HHH, still overworking his entrance because he never ever looked like The Man, with his average charisma and boring offense. Terrible match with hilarious run-ins. The announcing was rotten all night long, but during this piece of work it got to the nadir. I think it's even funnier than HHH's last match with Taker. Hey, kicking out of finishers. Hey, superkick ! HHH puts himself over. That was great in its horridness. Paige & AJ vs Bellas. Actually enjoyed this stuff a bit, always thanks to Nikki and to a lesser extent Paige. AJ isn't good, but whatever. First match I actually watched without get bored out of my mind. Totally watchable. Rusev vs Cena. Ok, Rusev's entrance was awesome. A freaking tank ! Lana !! Cena's propaganda video was vomit inducing, like any good propaganda video. The fact that he simply came out with any pomp made it even better. Just perfect. Excellent match too, and maybe Rusev's best performance ever. Liked it more than the Fastlane match, although I'm not big on the finish, which did seem a bit anticlimatic. And of course the prospect of splitting Lana & Rusev sucks. Rusev should have won, he's the best heel act at this point, but whatever, it was predictable. Now will they make the US title mean anything again with Cena carrying it ? They have the opportunity to revive both the IC and US titles now, but I have zero faith. Stephy, HHH, Rock, Ronda. What it is ? RAW ? I don't give a shit about MMA, I don't even know who Ronda is, but apparently Stephy don't take shit even from a great UFC fighter. Fucking lame. For anyone thinking everything is gonna be all rosey once Vince is out of the picture, think again. Stephy will put herself over on TV until she's old as dirt. Taker vs Bray. Holy shit, Taker's mystique is absolutely gone. He doesn't get an elaborate entrance anymore. He needed to retire after last year. Bray, well, whatever. Just as bad and boring as predicted. Reigns vs Lesnar. What a spectacle. Not a great match by any means, but as always with Lesnar, what a spectacle. This guy is just five notches ahead of everyone else in term of aura. Reigns did look better than ever, but wait until he gets paired up with Orton or Big Show again. The setting with that lightning made it ever better I thought, just a great looking stadium. I loved the finish. Perfect way to save the day. At one point I thought we'd see the reformation of the Shield, but this was perfectly executed and planted the seeds of what's coming. I'm talking about Brock coming back for revenge because he's not been defeated, not about an upcoming Seth vs Orton feud on top (which sounds… well…. Randy Orton…). Meanwhile, it gives time to Reigns. So yeah, they saved the day the best way possible, and Seth looking like a complete chickenshit at the end was a great visual to end the show. Two excellent matches in 5 hours including a lot of awful and boring stuff. So there you go.