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Unwatchable up until the last 5 minutes when only 10 guys are remaining. Just way too many bodies and way too long to be anything but a bore, I never enjoyed the WWIII gimmick. The post-match wasn't as annoying as I remembered it to be, Hogan did look like a whiner, but he did get screwed here (unlike during the Royal Rumble 92). Well, of course the whole idea of Savage only getting the belt because Hogan has to get screwed was usual Hogan bullshit, and it seems like Savage could never get the full credit of getting to the top except at WM 8.
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I don't have the will to go through this. I dig the pied-de-poule miniskirt though.
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[1995-11-26-WCW-World War III] Diamond Dallas Page vs Johnny B. Badd
El-P replied to Loss's topic in November 1995
This was a hot opener and exactly what an undercard title match should be. Better than the Fall Brawl match. DDP already had so much presence and heel charisma at that point, but the Diamond Cutter wasn't established yet as a killer move. Post match is good too, with Kim acting stunned then really happy about the result. Really fun undercard feud.- 5 replies
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[1995-11-26-WCW-World War III] Interview: Hulk Hogan, Randy Savage & Sting
El-P replied to Loss's topic in November 1995
This is classic. Sting is a complete doofus here being all joyful when Hogan says he'll be his friend for ever. What a gullible dork Sting was before the nWo angle.- 8 replies
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Sorry, I meant the Liontamer version of course, but I didn't remember about the actual name.
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That's the first one I thought about too. Blame the 90's Bret fan in me. It was simple to built into it, it was cool looking, and it gave us one of the most iconic wrestling picture ever, a bloody Austin battling with the pain before passing out. The Rock definitly made sure the move could look like complete shit though. In a samey kinda way, the Texas Cloverfleaf was pretty great looking too. The Walls of Jericho always looked like the best Boston-crab ever. As a shootstyle fan, of course the jujigatame and wakigatame are classics when sold right. Least favourite probably would be something like the ankle lock. Do I need to explain why ?
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Definitely not the worst idea. Terrible idea. The peak of WCW is the first two years of the Nitro era. And early 1994 has been quite overrated over the years too. It's good, but it's nowhere near as good as it's pimped to be. Lowering expectations is a good thing. Agreed. Fly over the first year and a half of the Hogan era and go right through late 95/fall 97 and you're getting the honeymoon with WCW at its hottest. The other really good years are 1989 and 1992, and late 93/early 94 to a lesser extent. Some parts of 90 and 93 (around the summer, usually) are absolutely dreadful. BTW, before late 88 is Jim Crockett Promotion, not WCW. Yeah, I nitpick.
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Damn, this looks pretty great.
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Impressive. I never realized Maurice Vachon was such a huge name. I really only knew him as the crazy uncle of Luna and the guy whose leg was used as a foreign object in the infamous Diesel vs Micheals IYH match. Always sad to see a legend go. Thought some might get a kick out of that : Mad Dog Vachon's beer commercial Or this :
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Glad Corny is back. I'll take a good mix of old-school wrestling stories, ranting about wrestling bullshit and political stuff.
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Micromanaging the announcers is absurd. When exactly did that began ? I remember Foley leaving because he couldn't handle it.
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Uninspired match which goes in no clear direction. First they brawl, then they do matwork, then Sting attacks Hogan's leg. They don't work the obvious tweener dynamic at all except Hogan doing a (very) few heelish things. Him hulking up in that context made no sense and the crowd really shits on him anyway so he should have gone a lot more heelish. Waste of PPV money too, it's amazing they gave such a huge match away on free-TV. Worked as it was, it didn't feel like a huge money match either. Sting wearing Hulkamania colors to get Hogan back on the good side is so geeky on his part.
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[1995-11-18-WCW-Saturday Night] Eddy Guerrero vs Chris Benoit
El-P replied to Loss's topic in November 1995
Yep. Terrific match, but Dusty was just putrid here. But a terrific match nonetheless. Eddie & Benoit were getting over by the sheer excellence of their in-ring work.- 8 replies
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[1995-11-18-WCW-Saturday Night] Paul Orndorff vignette
El-P replied to Loss's topic in November 1995
This Orndorff storyline was incredibly weird and was indeed building to nothing in term of wrestling feud.- 6 replies
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[1995-11-18-WCW-Saturday Night] Dean Malenko: The Man of 1000 Holds
El-P replied to Loss's topic in November 1995
Hello, I am Dean Malenko, I have a thousand holds but no charisma. Nerdy indeed.- 3 replies
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Well, yes there is : http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?showtopic=19237
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If you watch 1999 to 2001, you'll rename that thread "Don't get me started on WCW".
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He was fucking awful in WCW, on every level. Probably the worst all-around worker there with Stevie Ray and Brian Adams.
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Cool! Indeed.
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[1995-11-11-WCW-Saturday Night] Interview: Four Horsemen
El-P replied to Loss's topic in November 1995
Oh fuck, yes indeed it's pretty lame. Pink setup. No Flair. Pre-tape. Arn talked about "Nakanishi", which probably no one understood since he was simply named Kurosawa at the time (Dusty even made fun of it afterward).- 8 replies
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WTF was this ? And this was used to build to the super annoying use of the roll of tape in upcomings Duggan matches. Yawn. And it was not even the most WTF segment of the show, as Hogan & Savage dressed as grim reapers in a cemetary was even more ridiculous.
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Good little interview by the Stinger. Sullivan is doing a good job making things interesting on top. This was on Saturday Night BTW, not Nitro.
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I couldn't disagree more. Sting made no less than three no-sell babyface comebacks, including no-selling a suplex on the floor, which sucks. Flair showed a little more agression than usual when he tried to use a chair, but transitionned back to Sting with the usual "gets launched off the top rope" bit. I don't think there's any big match more formulaic than Flair vs Sting, and this is my least favourite Flair series because of it. This was every Sting vs Flair match with some nice intensity, but considering Sting said he was gonna kill Flair, I wouldn't call this really good, especially with the no-sell galore. Post match was really good though, especially with Luger's involvement. This was also a complete fraudulent "interactive match" that the fans booked by calling the hotline. Yeah, like there was any chance they would call for Scott Norton vs Dave Sullivan...
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Yeah, Jimmy Hart is very good here. All those years playing Hogan's cheerleader really were a waste of his talents. Anyway, this was a way for Hogan to lose the belt without losing the belt and make WWIII a huge PPV. On paper that is.
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