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    It's not that Tony & Jesse weren't interested, they were using special mics to make the TV audience hear clearly what was happening inside the ring, the interactions between the wrestlers, referees and managers, so the commentary had to be reduced to the minimal. Decent match, but man the Nasties aren't getting their stock up with me thus far. Really sloppy and boring and offense. With them and Harlem Heat showing up as the big two heel teams on the tag ranks, the tag team division's future really looks ugly.
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    Really fun video indeed. I never realized Hogan had slammed Andre that many times before Pontiac.
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    I found the previous week match better than this one. Watching shitload of Steamboat, I was slightly annoyed at times by how weak his "martial art" stuff looks, and always found too bad that he kept using this stuff as times went on. Of course he's such a great worker overall that it's like Tenryu's enzuigiri, we accept it was what it is. But in a match against Vader it was exposed more than usual, although Vader did a good job selling it. To me the match kinda lost its focus at times, and Vader looked odly fatigued, as Ventura would point out. Cool finish as far as screwjobs go, good use of the gimmick. Good match, but a bit disapointing to me considering the two Vader vs Steamboat matches I've seen before.
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    Fifi looks great, but she really never had *anything* to do.
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    Cody Rhodes was on that video ? Hell, I didn't noticed him. Kinda like on a current WWE card.
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    The Val Venis vs Dustin Runnels/Goldust feud is the perfect exemple of how nonsensical everything was back then, with a complete ignorance on how to define a heel and a face that people are supposed to care for. Russo said it best in his "Guest Booker" interview : "Heel or face ? I don't care, as long as I get ratings." The Val Venis character as a whole was really embarrassing.
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    Loss just described me at age 17 Between this stuff and the Nova joke the other day, you're so dating yourselves people. (I loved my 56k modem. It was so quick and smooth)
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    "When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much". Greatest Cantona promo ever. (and I'm not even a football (aka soccer) fan)
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    Harlem Heat all over WCW TV as soon as they debut. The depressing thing is that Stevie Ray was already one of the worst worker ever to get a long push and you know he won't ever improve, and Booket T was a complete wasted motion worker already, and not as decent as he would become later (I say decent because I don't see the argument for Booker becoming a really good worker ever).Who had a hard-on for these guys in the office ? I guess Bischoff since he was already in power at that time I believe.
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    Holy shit. Erik Watts in 92 wouldn't have done worse (excuse my references, I'm living in a wrestling time warp). So, they ended Ryback's streak via screwjob in a HITC ? Where's Scott Hall and his tazer when you need it ?
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    This is tremendous. I love the set-up of Cornette's promo. Goes long, but damn Cornette can talk, and he's a lot more subdued here due to his physical state, which is a nice touch, Cornette gets in a specific mood and never get hyperactive here. Terry just looks totally insane here. And Armstrong does yet another great babyface promo, and you gotta enjoy the genuine looking reactions from Caudle to the idea that Cornette might become the commisionner. SMW was ridiculously good promo-wise, seriously some of the best stuff week-to-week that I've seen.
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    Current WWE

    El-P replied to Smack2k's topic in WWE

    Great post. As someone who follows from a distance, didn't Ryback get the title shot @ HITC because Cena got legit injured or something ?
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    Agreed. another thing, that Jesse Ventura talked about in his shoot interview, is how he hates the modern setting of two guys facing each other in the ring (or one at the top of the ramp) arguing back and forth. I totally agree, it's so systematic and boring, and there's no teasing for a physical confrontation because they are always together in the same place aruguing back and forth and making bad jokes like a bunch of geeks on a wrestling messageboard. I'm amazed at how well the South Park wrestling episode nailed it. These aren't wrestling promos, it's "acting", or it's supposed to be at least. Sure, there was a bunch of goofy vignettes with "acting" in the 80's, but the current WWE is basically based on "acting", and the best exemple I can think of are the ridiculous Shawn Michaels matches again Flair "Sorry, I love you" and the HHH vs Taker match from last year, which as the apex of the concept of a wrestling match as a WWE movie. And I find it unbearable. When you go back and compare that to the Jerry Lawler vs Bret Hart match at Summerslam, which was also based on an angle and a long Lawler promo involving the Hart family at ringside, these are two totally different beasts. One is contrived overscripted acted self-epic conscious match, the other one is classic wrestling promo + screwjob (Doink) + heated brawl + post-match angle. One was god awful and laughable to me, the other remains one of the greatest moment of 90's WWF.
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    1999 in WWF barely had any good wrestling at all. It's not exactly like people forgetting about midget matches on Zenjo cards that had three ****+ matches on top or comedy matches on AJ Budokan openers. The Attitude Era was a shitty period for wrestling. The early MNW was great, but when it switched to "Attitude", it was unbearable. At the same time Nash was killing WCW and ECW got really boring. Turned me off US wrestling.
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    The first bad Wargames. I really don't see what Booker T showed here expect being an out of control shouting goof. Then again, I don't think Booker T. was anything much as a worker to begin with. Stevie Ray and Sid Vicious have a contest on who can suck the worst. Sid wins throwing some of the most inefficient looking kicks ever. I would kick better than him. Dustin and Vader (who's Big Van no more, thanks to NJ's threats) at the beginning was the only worthwile part of this match, and even then they got barely any heat. The ending is anticlimatic and totally shitty. Harlem Heat and the Shockmaster had no business in this match, it was no built in the slightest. Unless the 95 Hogan version is worse, this is the worse "classic" Wargames match, as I consider the eyegouging 98 one some sort of alternative version anyway (and Stevie Ray was involved in both). Yep, bad times for WCW, really bad times.
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    It was better than I thought it would, and Flair gets tons of credit for me for going the extra mile, busting out some neat stuff like the wrist work earlier on, jumping from the top rope to the outside, busting out the old butterfly suplex, and trying to kick off the pace. Rude is good on selling, but his offense consist more and more on restlholds and shouting toward Fifi (who looks awesome here), not to mention he does the absolute minimal amount of bumping now. His tights are classic Rude though. No luck for Rude, as WCW just withdrew from the NWA and the title is NWA no more, just called World Heavweight title on that show.
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    The Attitude era was what drove me out of watching WWF for good, plain and simple. It was great fun in 1996 and 1997, up to mid-98, then became complete shit when it really became "The Attitude era" in early 1999. Vince Russo at the helm, shit wrestling, no good match, stupid angles, horrible booking and mindless T&A. Of course it got much better and eventually mostly fun once Russo left and WCW guys flew in in early 2000, but the peak of "Attitude era" was 1999, and it was really terrible. The peak of WWF "artistically" was really the rise of Austin, Austin vs Bret feud, USA vs Canada, early DX and early Austin vs Mr. McMahon (with Foley as Dude Love). Summer of 1996 to Summer of 1998. And it was mostly the main event scene, as most of the undercard wasn't really good, whereas WCW had this unbelievable roster then which allowed great undercards, with the hot nWo on top.
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    Yep, good promo. Foley tried his best.
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    Seriously, what were you smoking this day ? The three best things about this match are : 1/Missy Hyatt's boobs 2/Missy Hyatt's ass 3/Ventura's comments about Missy Hyatt. I forgot how boring and sloppy the Nasties were when they are not thrown around by the Steiners. Arn playing babyface in peril just doens't work for me, and he's clearly on cruise control at this point. The standout is Paul Roma, which should tell you how mediocre this match was. This incarnation of the Horsemen was truly worthless. (gotta love the smart alec fans chanting "Roma ! Roma !", the same who chanted "Steamboat sucks !!" earlier on)
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    What ? You're crazy, it's an excellent match ! Steamboat gives a clinic on selling an injury, tons of cool matwork, hot finish, stiffness on both part. Regal was already awesome, and Steamboat was refusing to slow down.
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    It's kinda sad to see how much Rude has dropped off since coming back from the injury. He's still got awesome maneurisms and good selling, but he's obviously not taking that much bump anymore and he's got a much more limited offense than before. It was really obvious with the entire Dustin feud, using mostly restholds even in tag matches. I didn't realize before that Rude's work dropped like that. Good match anyway, and the finish is indeed super heated. Maybe that's working with a damaged Rude, but I didn't feel like Dustin was as good as he was could be either during that feud.
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    This is some pretty funny damage control here. And frankly, a stumbling fat guy gimmick suits Ottman better than some mysterious Stormtrooper.
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    Cowabunga was actually Mark Curtis.
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    I thought it was originally attributed to Choshu (I believe referred to then as the Sasorigatame but the odds I'm recalling and spelling that correctly are slim). Can anyone trace it back before him? I thought Choshu got it from Saito.
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    Current WWE

    El-P replied to Smack2k's topic in WWE

    Add to that WrestleMania which will probably do monster business again this year. That being said, WCW was doing shitload of money in 1998.
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