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El-P

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  1. Awesome segments. The Observer line was hilarious, indeed, I really didn't expect it. And the Funk promo is insane. What does Foley say about it ?
  2. The Harris boys can't look good facing Morton and Gibson. That's how inept they are. Shit, Stevie Ray looked better on WCW tv.
  3. Let me see. I remember ordering my first puro tapes in late 1998. I'd say October/November 1998. Maybe the argument was taking shape at the same time I was getting into puro, so as a newbie, to me it was gonna be new anyway and I wouldn't see the difference between a consensus opinion that had 10 years of history and the brand new consensus opinion that had two months of history and getting stronger by the months. I remember Jumbo vs Funk and Jumbo vs Mil, I'd say it was in 2000 or so. I think so because I used to print those damn DVDVR to read them on the train to Paris back then. I can picture myself reading about Jumbo vs Mil in the TGV for some reasons.
  4. RIP to a damn fine hand. Oh fuck, this is terrible news !
  5. I had very few responsibilities back then The same. (man, I gave so much money to Lorefice and Lynch between 1998 and 2003. If only I had known about the FUCKING INTERNET 2.0 COMING SOON back then, I would have waited a few years)
  6. One thing : who the fuck are "we" ? I warmed up to Choshu and Fujinami ten years ago when I began to watch shitloads of NJ TV. I guess my tastes are dated as far as Takada goes but are pretty well advanced as far as Fuji and Choshu go then. I know people love to feel like they belong together in some sort of "rightful group of thoughts", but in the end this just doesn't concern me. The appearance and disapearance of new consensus is interesting only in term of the historiography of the GOAT discussions. Maybe my 98 memory alludes to The Other Arena (I don't think I stumble onto it that early though, as I was aware of DVDVR before tOA), but what the heck, if just a few people made good arguments for Jumbo back in the days, that was enough for me to say he was considered as a GOAT. Was it a consensus ? Maybe not, but the idea was already there.
  7. Didn't he show up on WCW TV B-shows later in the decade ?
  8. I have no idea. Way too long ago. I just remember that I was a total newbie on japanese wrestling and that one of the name that jumped to my eyes as being talked as a GOAT worker was Jumbo, along with Liger, Misawa & Kawada. I knew Liger from NJ on Eurosport, the three others I had no idea who they were. Agreed. The PWFG shows especially would be put on tapes along other japanese indy stuff and it would be very scattered. I don't remember either. Plenty of Tiger Mask and Sabu comp around at that time. Yes. In a way I don't enjoy being a wrestling fan today because none of the current wrestling interests me, but in another way it's terrific to be a wrestling fan today thanks to the availability and ways to pass the footage around.
  9. Understood. I checked out Da Meltz ratings for the show, and it's all over the place. Vader vs Cactus gets ****3/4 (ridiculous), Flair vs Rude gets ***1/4 (not even a good match) and Nasties vs Scorp/Bagwell gets ***1/2 (*good* match but I would go no further). Meanwhile, Regal vs Bulldog gets **3/4. Hum, what ?
  10. The Summer of 1993 solidifies SMW as probably the best TV product of the year in the US, despite (or thanks to ?) the old-school format. The big summer show was the best major card of the year, with an excellent Wargames like cage match and the awesome Cornette vs Armstrong showdown. Brian Lee turned from boring and dull babyface to cool heel with Tammy Fytch at his side, and you can see her get really good really fast. His work still isn't exactly stellar, but his bumping big man style heel suits him much better. DWB not collecting the bounty on Tracy Smother moves thing organically toward the babyface turn. I'm loving every minute of Candido vs Tim Horner (I'm a sucker for redneck butterface Horner and his bad promos, he's campy but he's genuine, and he's such a crisp worker), including Dennis Corraluzo making a cameo as the WWA president. Cornette's post injury promos are priceless, and the Heavenly Bodies with Del Ray are more fun in the ring than with Lane. The only thing I don't like about the product at that time are the Bruise Brothers, even the Rock'n Roll can't make them watchable. Bobby Blaze is a nice little worker in the babyface Barry Horowitz role too.
  11. When I came to the scene in early 1998, Jumbo was already talked about as a GOAT I remember. On Lawler, yeah most probably, but tons of Fujiwara footage has been available for ages. Again, the UWF (1 & 2), PFWG and 80's NJ tapes from the big UWF vs NJ matches were already around 14 years ago, I remember seeing Fuji's name all over Mike Lorefice's tape list back then.
  12. The best match between those two teams, and probably the best match of the Nasties since they came back to WCW. Missy is really trashy looking, and fit right there with the Nasties. Really good work from Bagwell and Scorp to carry the two big loads.
  13. This is worst than their previous one. Rude is totally going on smokes and mirrors at this point, in his case he's overselling in the long run (selling a leg like nobody's business well too long after anyone would after a simple figure-4 spot), repeating pin attempts when there is no point really, and using basic moves only. And he barely bumps anymore. Kinda sad to watch. His tights are the best part of the match, just classic Rude. Fifi is looking great, but she oughta be the most useless valet ever as she doesn't get anything to do or say, ever. Flair works an autopilot here while he worked super hard the other time around, and the finish is bad. Yeah, Terry Taylor was wasted, I don't get the point at all. Not a good match, bad ending.
  14. I don't like the Texas Death Match gimmick at all anyway, it always kills the flow of a match and unless you are a godlike babyface like Onita who can play Rocky to perfection, it never works. Plus here they really don't use the gimmick well at all, not doing any dramatic 10 counts. The work is fine and brutal, but they had much better matches on Saturday Nights. The ending is brutal and stupid. The booking of the three big singles matches on this show was pretty bad. (On a side note, I don't get why this made the set when the excellent Orndorff vs Steamboat, which was the best match on the card and nearly a WCW MOTYC didn't.)
  15. I thought Schiavone was actually really good in this. Much better than anyone in the previous videos. He's the one who should have get Cheatum's part. Here he's downright pedobear approved.
  16. The opening sequences are very cool, as Davey Boy shows he still knows how to work european-like, and he's very smooth doing it. Regal is indeed hilarious reacting to Davey Boy, and finally rough it up. Great timing from everybody at the end too. Very good match.
  17. I dind't mind the spin the wheel in slow motion. One of the best Cactus promos of the year.
  18. It's not that Tony & Jesse weren't interested, they were using special mics to make the TV audience hear clearly what was happening inside the ring, the interactions between the wrestlers, referees and managers, so the commentary had to be reduced to the minimal. Decent match, but man the Nasties aren't getting their stock up with me thus far. Really sloppy and boring and offense. With them and Harlem Heat showing up as the big two heel teams on the tag ranks, the tag team division's future really looks ugly.
  19. Really fun video indeed. I never realized Hogan had slammed Andre that many times before Pontiac.
  20. I found the previous week match better than this one. Watching shitload of Steamboat, I was slightly annoyed at times by how weak his "martial art" stuff looks, and always found too bad that he kept using this stuff as times went on. Of course he's such a great worker overall that it's like Tenryu's enzuigiri, we accept it was what it is. But in a match against Vader it was exposed more than usual, although Vader did a good job selling it. To me the match kinda lost its focus at times, and Vader looked odly fatigued, as Ventura would point out. Cool finish as far as screwjobs go, good use of the gimmick. Good match, but a bit disapointing to me considering the two Vader vs Steamboat matches I've seen before.
  21. Fifi looks great, but she really never had *anything* to do.
  22. Cody Rhodes was on that video ? Hell, I didn't noticed him. Kinda like on a current WWE card.
  23. The Val Venis vs Dustin Runnels/Goldust feud is the perfect exemple of how nonsensical everything was back then, with a complete ignorance on how to define a heel and a face that people are supposed to care for. Russo said it best in his "Guest Booker" interview : "Heel or face ? I don't care, as long as I get ratings." The Val Venis character as a whole was really embarrassing.
  24. Loss just described me at age 17 Between this stuff and the Nova joke the other day, you're so dating yourselves people. (I loved my 56k modem. It was so quick and smooth)
  25. "When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much". Greatest Cantona promo ever. (and I'm not even a football (aka soccer) fan)
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